SPORT TOURISM ECONOMIC DRIVER OF HAWAII'S ECONOMY.

FROM YOUTH TOURNAMENTS TO WORLD CLASS EVENT, BUT MARQUEE COMPETITIONS LEFT OUR SHORES INCLUDING PGA TOUR EVENT ON MAUI AND NFL PRO-BOWL.

WHERE DOES HAWAII STAND NOW?

ARE OUR FACILITIES INFRASTRUCTURE AND INVESTMENTS ENOUGH TO ATTRACT LARGE EVENTS?

OR SMALLER SCALE CONTEST LIKE PICKLEBALL.

JOIN THE CONVERSATION NEXT ON INSIGHTS.

♪ ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII.

I'M DARYL HUFF.

HAWAII HAS BEEN THE SHOWCASE FOR MAJOR SPORTING EVENTS LIKE THE PRO BOWL•COLLEGE BASKETBALL TOURAMENTS AND THE IRONMAN WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP AND A TRIO OF PROFESSIONAL GOLF TOURNAMENTS.

WITH SOME OF THESE NOTEWORTHY COMPETITIONS LEAVING FOR OTHER CITIES AND THE ALOHA STADIUM YEARS AWAY FROM BEING COMPLETED, WHAT IS THE STATE OF SPORTS TOURISM IN HAWAII TODAY?

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW.

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NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.

REPRESENTATIVE ADRIAN TAM SERVES DISTRICT 24 WHICH INCLUDES WAIKIKI, MCCULLY AND MOILIILI ON THE ISLAND OF OAHU.

HE IS THE CHAIR OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TOURISM.

BEFORE RUNNING FOR OFFICE IN 2020 HE WORKED FOR SENATOR STANLEY CHANG.

JAMES TOKIOKA IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM (DBEDT) FOR THE STATE OF HAWAII.

PRIOR TO THAT, HE REPRESENTED KAUAI IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND AS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR AIRPORTS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

DAVE ERDMAN IS THE INTERIM PRESIDENT AND CEO OF RETAIL MERCHANTS OF HAWAII.

HE HAS SERVED THE ASSOCIATION FOR MORE THAN THREE DECADES AS A BOARD MEMBER AND COMMITTEE MEMBER.

EARLIER IN HIS CAREER HE LED SALES AND MARKETING IN THE RENTAL CAR INDUSTRY.

SENATOR SAMANTHA DECORTE REPRESENTS DISTRICT 22 ON OAHU WHICH INCLUDES KO 'OLINA, NANAKULI, MA'ILI, WAI'ANAE, AND MAKAHA.

SHE SITS ON THE HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS AND WATER, LAND, CULTURE AND THE ARTS COMMITTEES IN THE SENATE.

LET ME START WITH DIRECTOR TOKIOKA.

HOW IMPORTANT IS SPORTS TOURISM TO THIS STATE ECONOMY?

>> EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, IF I JUST LEFT THE HEARING BEFORE I CAME HERE, AND BO FROM LAS VEGAS TALKING THE FUND ECONOMY, RELATES TO SPORTS EVENTS AND, HE ENTERTAINMENT.

AND THAT IS THOSE THINGS ALONG WITH GAMING 14% OF THE WORLD ECONOMY.

14% IS TOURISM, SPORTS TOU TOURISM, ENTERTAINMENT.

IT'S HUGE.

SO FOR HAWAII, WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE GOOD LEADERSHIP IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE.

AND ONE OF THEM IS SITTING RIGHT TO THE RIGHT OF ME.

ADRIAN TAM REPRESENTATIVE TAM.

AND SENATOR DECORT CHAIRS THE COMMITTEE.

VERY FOCUS OED TRYING TO HELP TTHE STATE SPORTS EVENTS.

BOTH SENATOR DECORT AND I ARE GOING TO DECORT.

>>Daryl: SAME.

>> BROUGHT THE SAME REPORT.

EXCELLENT REPORT ABOUT THE HONOLULU MAYOR MARATHON.

43,000 RUNNERS AND 11 THOUSANDS OF THEM COME FROM JAPAN, THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN VERY, VERY FOCUSED ON GETTING BBACK TO A SA TO ASIAN MARKET T. THREE TRIPS MET WITH JAPAN AIRLINES, HANEDA AIRPORT, JTB.

>> JCB CREDIT CARD.

SOMETHING VERY CRITICAL.

WE HAVE SONY OPEN THAT WE MAY LOSE SOME OF PGA.

>>Daryl: TALK MORE ABOUT HOW WHAT IS ON THE HORIZON.

I WANT TO GET TO DAVE ERDMAN RETAIL MERCHANTS.

MICROLEVEL FOR RETAIL MERC MERCHANTS HOW IMPORTANT IS THIS SPORTING EVENTS THEY DID COME AND GO.

WHAT IS IT LIKE FOR RETAIL MERCHANTS?

WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THEM IN.

>> WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO FOR RETAIL MERCHANTS VIBRANT TOURISM BUSINESS.

THAT THEY HAVE.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT NOT JUST FOR OAHU BUT FOR THE NEIGHBOR ISLANDS.

SO WE LOOK AT THE HONOLULU MARATHON.

THERE'S PARTICIPANTS AND THEY PARTICIPATE IN A RACE.

BUT THEN WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO CHEER FOR THEM.

AND COME ALONG AS FAMILY AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN THE RACE IS OVER, THEN THEY GO SHOPPING.

>>Daryl: ALWAYS TALK ABOUT QUALITY TOURISTS OR TOURISTS YOU WANT TO HAVE CALL THE QUALITY IS THERE A PARTICULAR QUALITY COME FOR SPORTING EVENT DIFFERENT FROM A SAY TEMPERTYPICAL TOURISTS WHEN A RL POINT OF VIEW?

, DO THEY TEND TO COME IN AND BUY A LOT MORE?

TEND TO BEING FOCUSED MORE?

>> I THINK YOU ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THE SPORTS TOURISM, INDIVIDUAL, IS THAT THEY DID COME FOR SPECIFIC REASON.

COME FOR EVENT.

AND IF THERE'S EVENTS ARE STRATEGICALLY TIMED, THEY COME AT T TIMING THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO THE RETAILER.

>>Daryl: SORT OF SLACK TIME.

>> SURE.

LOOK AT THE HONOLULU MAYOR MARATHON,IN THE FIRST HE SECOND SATURDAY, SECOND SUNDAY OF DECEMBERER GENERALLY A SLOW TIME.

LOOK MAUI MARETH MARATHON PLANNED.

USED WINTER SEASON MAUI COUNTY AND MAUI VISITOR BUREAU WORKED TO T TRY TO CHANGE THAT EVENT TO COME INTO FALL SEASON.

THAT WAS STRATEGIC.

SO THAT RETAILERS WOULD TAKE OPPORTUNITY.

DOWN TAME FROM TRADITIONAL SEASON.

THIS YEAR, GOING TO BE EVENT AFTER THE PEAK.

>>Daryl: WHICH EVENT.

>> MAUI MARATHON.

>>Daryl: I GUESS THEY DO HAVE A M MAUI MARATHON.

>> ACTUALLY HAS HISTORY OF OVER 50 YEARS.

BACK TO HOW RETAIL WORKS, WHEN THE MAUI MARATHON WITH THE MOY ROAMOYROAD RETURNS WORKED WITH I VISITOR ASSOCIATION, VISITORS BUREAU, AND I WAS WORKING WITH THEM AT THAT TIME, WE HAD START OF THE RACE AT KAAHUMANU CENTER AN END OF THE RACE AT WHALER'S VILLAGE.

SO IT WAS BOOK ENDED BY TWO RETAIL SHOPPING CENTERS.

>>Daryl: FUN RACE.

>> IT WAS.

>>Daryl: AS REPUBLICAN, WATCHING SPENDING, IS IT WORTH INVESTING?

SOMETHING THAT TAXPAYORS SHOULD BE WILLING TO SPEND THEIR MONEY TO ENCOURAGE SPORTS TOURISM?

>> YEAH I THINK VERY CRITICAL TIME WHERE SPORTS TOURISM SHOULD BE PRIMARY FOCUS FOR U US.

ACCORDING TO UHERO REPORT, THE HIGHEST SP SPENDER RIGHT NOW IS COMING FROM THE CONTENT.

AMERICANS LOVE SPORTS.

I KNOW WHEN WE ACTUALLY PIVOT OVER TO THE HONOLULU MARATHON.

THEY HAD 43,000 PARTICIPANTS.

WHICH OVER 100 THOUSANDS OF THEM WERE VISITORS THAT HAD COME THROUGH.

SO THIS IS PERFECT TIME FOR US TO START GETTING SPORTS TOURISM.

SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE OUR ECONOMY.

COMING ON ALOHA STADIUM, GOT SOME THINGS GOING ON CONVENTION CENTER.

NOW IS THE PERFECT TIME.

>>Daryl: TALK TO EVERYBODY ELSE, ADRIAN TAM, TOURISM CHAIR, WHAT IS YOUR PERSPECTIVE YOU FOLKS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH NEGATIVE AFFECTS OF TOURISM.

IS THERE A SPECIAL QUALITY THAT SUPPORTS TOURISM HAS THAT MIGHT MITIGATE NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF TOO MANY PEOPLE?

>> I THINK SO.

PIGGYBACK WHAT SENATOR DECORT SAID.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE PEN TOUR RATHER THAN ACTUAL INVESTMENT INTO OUR ECONOMY.

GOVERNOR ASKING FOR IT $3 MILLION ADDITIONAL NOON MONEY TOWARDS SPORTS TOURISM HTA BUDGET I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 2,007 STATISTIC ON THE HONOLULU MARATHON.

THE HONOLULU MARATHON THEN BROUGHT IN ABOUT $3.7 MILLION IN STATE TAXES.

MAJORITY OF THAT CAME FROM OUT OF STATE RESIDENTS.

>>Daryl: ONE EVENT BROUGHT IN $3 MILLION IN ACTUAL, PAID FOR ITSELF.

>> PAID FOR ITSELF.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE PUT IN THAT YEAR.

BUT THINK ABOUT TODAY PUTTING IN $3 MILLION.

PROBABLY GET MORE BANNING FOR BR BUCK.

>>Daryl: GREEN FEE.

OTHER ASPECT OF IT AS WELL.

DIRECTOR TOKIOKA, WE ARE THE CHALLENGES ON HORIZON RIGHT NOW?

I MEAN.

THERE'S A BUNCH.

RIGHT?

WE MENTIONED STADIUM.

MENTIONED LOSS OF DO YOU THINK THE SENTRY EVER CAMING BACK, ONE ON MAUI?

IT COME BACK?

>> I'M HOPEFUL AND AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED, MYSELF AND GOVERNOR, AND WHOLE TEAM, HAS BEEN HANDS ON DECK TRYING TO GET THEM BACK.

OWNER OF THE GOLF COURSE MR MR.

YANAI VERY GENEROUS.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE PG A TOUR HAS CHANGED.

IT IS NOW FOR-PROFIT ENTITY.

AND THAT PARTICULAR TOURN TOURNAMENT, SENTRY WAS LOSING $5 MILLION A YEAR.

SO WHETHER MR.

YANAI.

>>Daryl: WHO WAS LOSING MONEY.

>> TO THE BOTTOM LINE.

>>Daryl: WHO WAS LOSING MONEY?

>> TOURNAMENT.

THE TOURNAMENT ITSELF.

LOST $5 MILLION A YEAR?

WHO IS PUTTING IT'S MONEY IN.

>> SPONSORS AND THE PREVIOUS PPGA TOUR NOT FOR PROFIT.

>>Daryl: PRIMARILY PGA TOUR AND MAYBE NETWORKS.

>> NETWORKS LOST MONEY.

THEY GOTTEN MONEY WHETHER EVENT MAKES MONEY OR NOT.

BUT TO HAVE ONE TOURNAMENT PULL OUT, IS VERY EXPENSIVE FOR THE ONES REMAINING BECAUSE ALL OF THAT EQUIPMENT HAS TO BE SHIPPED OVER FROM THE MAINLAND.

AND IF THREE PEOPLE ARE SHARING IT WHICH WOULD BE THE MITSUBISHI IN BIG ISLAND, KO KONA, SENRY ON MAUI AND SONY OPEN.

CENTURY, THREE TUR TURN APP SHARING COST.

NO TOURNAMENTS SHARING THE COST.

ONLY ONE OR TWO COST IS.

>>Daryl: PLUS COMPETING WITH NFL FOOTBALL.

>> THAT'S WHAT THE PGA TOUR SAID.

THOSE GUYS, NEW GROUP, CAME FROM THE NFL.

SO IF YOU SEE THESE TOURNAMENTS HAPPENING, PROBABLY GOING TO BE EITHER THE WEEK BEFORE THE SUPER BOWL, OR AFTER SUPER BOWL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE BEFORE.

>>Daryl: TRYING TO FIND A PLACE ON THE CALENDAR FOR TH THEM?

>> WE ARE TRY TO FIND A PLACE.

CAN'T JUST HOPE FOR THE CENTURY TO COME BACK.

LOOK ALL OTHER DIFFERENT EVENTS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY BIG, WE JUST HAD IT AT THE CONVENTIO CONVENTION CENTERO AG TRANS-PACIFIC VOLLEYBALL PEOPLE.

4,000 TEAMS, 10,000 PEOPLE.

>>Daryl: NOT SOMETHING YOU PERCEIVE.

SPORTS TOURISM, THINK BIG EVENTS ATTRACT TOURISTS AND PEOPLE ARE COLD WATCHING BEAUTIFUL MAUI.

WHWHALES STUFFLIKE THAT.

BUT EVENTS WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO PLAY, HOW DOES THAT DAVE, FOR YOUR GUYS PERSPECTIVE?

SEEMS LIKE THAT IS ALMOST THE IDEAL SITUATION?

>> PARTICIPANTS SPORTS ARE PROBABLY THE BEST.

SO YEAH, SPECTATOR SPORTS AND PARTICIPANT SPORTS AND PARTICIPANTS THEN BRING THEIR FAMILIES, ALONG WITH THEM.

AND PARTICIPANTS SPORTS ALSO DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SIZE.

MEANING YOU CAN DO THEM IN DIFFERENT TYPES OF VENUE US AS MORE FLEXIBILITY DO THEM ON DIFFERENT AN ISLANDS.

SO I THINK PARTICIPANTS SPORTS ARE GOOD FOR HAWAII.

ALSO, WE LOOK AT WHAT'S THE RIGHT FIT FOR HAWAII.

POUR IS NOT BETTER AND BIGGER IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER.

MORE IS NOT BETTER AND WE HAVE LOOK AT THE FIT BETWEEN WHAT VENUES WE HAVE.

BECAUSE SOME VENUES, WE HAVE OR WE NEED TO CREATE.

LIKE THE STADIUM.

AND OTHERS DON'T REALLY NEED A VENUE.

LOOK AT OCEAN SPORTS, WE HAVE THE OCEAN.

SO CERTAIN SPORTS, WE HAVE THE FACILITIES ALREADY.

SO WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE RIGHT FIT IS.

>>Daryl: ADRIAN TAM, WHEN IT COMES TO DECIDING WHAT TO FUND FROM THE LEGISLATURE, THIS IDEA OF PARTICIPANTS SPORTS AND THEN THERE'S BIG TICKET SHOWCASE TYPE SPORTS.

IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR MIND ABOUT WHERE THE PRIORITIES SHOULD BE?

>> I THINK THAT THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO NEED FOR BOTH.

FOR PARTICIPANT SPORTS A LOT OF THEM IS LIKE SMALL ORGANIZATIONS THAT COMMUNITY DRIVEN ADD BRINGS A LOT OF FAMILY OUT FROM THE MAINLAND TO COME TO HAWAII TO PARTICIPATE.

LLC BRINGING A LOT OF LOCAL FOLKS OUT.

TO BUILD COMMUNITY.

INVESTMENT WORTHWHILE.

I JUST REMEMBER THAT HTA GIVEN GRANT TO COMMUNITY TORSION HOLD THESE TOURNAMENTS HERE IN HAWAII AS WELL.

IN TERMS SPECTATOR SPORTS I THINK THAT ONE ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE FACE IN HAWAII IS OUR TIME ZONE.

SO IT'S NOT ONLY IMPORTANT TO VET INVEST IN SPORTS THAT ARE MORE WATCHED IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT ALSO, SPORTS THAT ARE POPULAR IN ASIA AND EUR EUROPE.

LIKE RUGBY, OR CRICKET OR TENNIS.

>>Daryl: FOR SPECTATOR.

>> YES.

FOR SPECTATOR SPORTS.

>> SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

SO THE TIME ZONE IS INTERESTING BECAUSE ALL RIGHT.

PGA ACTUALLY LPGA HAD TOURNAMENT END ON A SATURDAY, SO IT COULD MATCH THE TIME ZONE FOR JAPAN ASIA BECAUSE MOST GOLFERS WERE FROM JAPAN ASIA.

THAT WAY GOT IT.

V TIME ON THE RIGHT DAY.

>>Daryl: I FOUND OUT, STRANGE THE WAY TVRs SCHEDULED NOW I UNDERSTAND.

>> MORE FOR THE, ASIA MARKET THAN FOR THE MAINLAND MARKET.

THAT'S INTERESTING.

SAMANTHA DECORTE, WHAT CON CONCERNS DO YOU HAVE ABOUT THE HORIZON ON OUR SPORTS TOURISM MOVING SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PIVOTING TRANSITIONING?

>> YEAH.

I MEAN I SEE IT THIS MORE POSITIVE ARCH FOR AVENUE FOR STO TAKE TO GENERATE REVENUE.

IMPORTANT WE LOOK AT ALL AS AS ASASPECT IT'S SENATE PASS A BILL OUT OF WAM APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR DBEDT CONDUCT A STUDY WHAT THE POSITIVE OR MAYBE KNE NEGRO NEGANEGATIVISM PACKETED BRINGING SPORTS TOURISM TO HAWAII.

TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT.

GOOD THING ABOUT SPORTS TOURISM IS WHEN VISITORS COME, WHEN FAMILY COME, SUPPORTERS COME, WHEN EVENT IS OVER, THEY GO BACK HOME.

SO NOT LEFT WITH WEEKS AND WEEKS OF OVER CRO RECRUITED OVERMYER CRO RECRUITEDOVER CROW.

COME IN, SPEND MONEY SUPPORT PARTICIPANTS AND TWO HOME.

JIMMY,.

>> EARLY.

>>Daryl: GOOD QUESTION FROM BOB IN KANEOHE MANY WHAT FATALITIES HAWAII ATTRACT TO HUGE SPORTS EVENT EVS.

COMPETE WITH CITIES LAS VEGAS, OUT SPEND US.

TALK ABOUT THE STADIUM.

LEARNED THIS, TH GOING TO BE BIGGER AND BETTER THAN WE THOUGHT UP UNTIL RECENTLY.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT HOTELS AN RESTAURANTS AND SO ON.

WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE POTENTIAL NOW FOR THAT STADIUM AREA AS A REAL A TA A ATTRACTIVE AREA FOR SPECTATORS FOR THE SPORTS AND OTHER TYPE OF PARTICIPANTS.

>> THAT WOULD BE THE GEM.

STADIUM TALK ABOUT SPORTS TOURISM.

WHERE A LOT OF THEM CAN BE PLAYED AT.

NOT ONLY SPORTS.

CONCERTS, I HAVE VERY GOOD FRIEND THAT IS IN CHARGE OF LIVE NATION AND PINK WANTED TO COME TO HAWAII.

BUT SHE WASN'T GOING TO COME HERE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A 35 TO US SEAT ARENA.

31,000, PROBABLY FITS BECAUSE NOW WE CAN PUT PEOPLE ON THE FLOOR.

BUT WITHOUT A STADIUM, WE CAN'T HAVE OPPORTUNITIES.

I THINK IT'S NOT ONLY FOR TOURISM.

LIKE ALL OUR LOCAL KIDS THAT PLAY SPORT, WHAT THEY PHOTO GET TOPLAY IN ALOHA STADIUM, FRM THE NEIGHBOR ISLANDS, YOU'RE IN THE BIG TIME NOW.

SO I'M FROM KAUAI.

WHEN OUR TEAMS CAME THERE, BUT TO SEE THE LOCAL KIDS, MAN TIE, DAY OWE, DILLON GABRIEL KIDS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY IN THERE, I'M, UNDER THE BELIEF THAT THAT HELPED THEM BECOME THE PLAYERS THAT THEY HAVE BECOME IN THE NFL.

SO IT'S NOT ONLY FOR TOURISM.

PART OF IT.

IT'S FOR OUR COMMUNITY TOO.

>>Daryl: ADRIAN TAM, WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING DECISION ABOUT SUPPORT SPORTS.

YOU MENTIONED HTA.

MOVED INTO SOMETHING ELSE.

ADVISORY.

MORE HE HAVED INTO SOMETHING ELSE.

NEW FUNDING STREAM HAPPENING NOW?

IN YOUR MIND, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE A WASTE OF MONEY WHEN IT COMES TO SPORTS TOURISM?

IF IT LITERALLY GENERATES KIND OF MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT?

>> I THINK LIKE ANY KIND OF INVESTMENT OR EXPENDITURE FROM THE STATE, THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF OVERSIGHT ON IT.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE MADE HTA ADVISORY RATHER THAN ALLOWING IT TO CONTINUE TO RUN ON AUTHORITY.

>>Daryl: WHY?

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THEN?

IF IT'S ADVISORY AND BECAUSE THAT THE LEGISLATURE.

>> OVERSIGHT AND NO ACCOUNTABILITY SOMETIMES WE HAD IT WAS ADVISORY.

PRIOR TO LAST, YEAR WE SAW BAD HEADLINES FROM THE UNPAID INVOICES.

>> TO THE INFINDING, ETHICS VIOLATIONS.

CLOSER TO HOME L AX LA RAMS RECEPTION VERBAL AGREEMENT MADE, AND CAUSED A LOT OF CONFUSION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT VERBAL AGREEMENTS ARE THE NORM THERE IS WHO IS GOING TO FOOT THE BILL P FOR THIS RECEPTION.

WE'RE NOW IN AWE VERY BETTER POSITIVE ASPECT VISION FOR HT.

A MOVING FORWARD.

SO, HTA THERE'S A NEW ADVISORY BOABOARD IF PLACE AT HTA ONE OF THE COMMITTEES HEADED NOW BY GOOD FRIEND CHRIS WEST ILW.

LOOKING SPORTS TOURISM AND GENERATING QUALITY PLAN ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE $3 MILLION THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING PUTTING IN.

>>Daryl: SECOND HALF OF THIS QUESTION.

HOW CAN WE COMPETE ABOUT SITS LIKE LAS VEGAS, LOS ANGELES A CHICAGO?

WHEN OUTSPEND US?

THOSE ARE OUR COMPETITION O.E.R.OTHER PLACES?

>> WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR OWN STADIUM.

THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER MAJOR S CITY CIES UNTIL WE HAVE A STADIUM, HAVE THE VENUE, WHETHER IT BE CONCERTS, DRIVE SPORTS TOURISM, SO IN ORDER FOR US TO COMPETE, WE'VE GOT TO GET THAT STADIUM FINISHED.

>>Daryl: JAMES TOKIOKA.

HOW HAS THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS CHANGED?

AND WHO IS IN CHAR IS IN DECIDEW MUCH MONEY IS SPENT ON ANY ONE OF THESE EVENTS.

>> GOVERNOR.

VOLUNTARY MADE I LEGISLATURE MAT CLEAR THAT GOVERNOR HAS THE OVERSIGHT.

ASKED ME TO, WORK AND GATHER ALL THE INFORMATION.

SO WE MEET OFTEN ON PROPOSALS.

BUT WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WAS GOING ON, THIS IS HOW IMPORTANT SPORTS TOURISM IS TOO, THE STATE AND TO THE GOVERNOR AND TO ALL OF US.

WITH THE TIME BEING AS CRITICAL AS IT HAS BEEN FINANCIALLY FOR THE STATE, THE GOVERNOR MADE A REQUEST TO INVEST $3 MILLION MORE INTO SPORTS TOURISM.

HE DIDN'T DO THAT IN SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

THAT'S HOW COMMITTED HE IS TO SPORTS TOURISM.

YOU CAN SEE LIKE I SAID, WE HAD THE PRO-BOWL WAY BACK TH THEN.

BUT I HONESTLY THINK SOME OF THESE LOCAL TOURNAMENTS DRIVE VISITORS HERE, WITH THEIR PARENTS, LIKE GIRLS FLAG FOOTBALL, IS THE THING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON A LOT NOW, I HAVE A FUN JOB.

I WAS MEETING WITH THE SEAHAWKS SEATTLE SH SEAHAWKS CHARGERS AND RAMMERS AND 49 OFS.

FOOTBALL TEAMS IN YOUR AREAS WHY DON'T YOU BRO BRING THEM HO HAVE A TURNTS AMOUNT.

A TOURNAMENT.>>Daryl: SUBSIDIZI?

>> WE WOULD LIKE ANYTHING ELSE WE WOULD, WE SUBSIDIZE SONY OPEN.

BUT WHEN YOU SUBSIDIZE LIKE 7GEN AND TRANS PACIFIC VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENT, IT'S BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT THAT IS YOU SPEND THE MONEY AND YOU CAN SEE THE RESULTS.

JUST SAME THING WITH THE MARATHON.

I LOVE CENTURY BUT IT'S HARD TO PINPOINT HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME.

YOU KNOW THEY COME.

BECAUSE THEY'RE WATCHING WH WHALES JUMP.

IN MINNESOTA 20 BELOW.

SOONER OR LATER WE NEED TO PACK UP THE BAGS AND GO TO HAWAII.

>>Daryl: INTERESTING ABOUT THAT IS I THINK ALWAYS SAW THOSE TOURNAMENTS BEING JUST SORT OF TELEVISION EVENTS ANY WAY.

ESPECIALLY CENTURY.

BUT THERE WERE FOR A WHILE, GOLF EVENTS LIKE THE SENIOR SKINS AN STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WOULD MUCH SMALLER YOU COULD GIVE A LOT MORE MONEY AWAY, GET TO BIG NAMES SO THERE'S WAYS OF ADJUSTING GOLF TOURNAMENTS AND OTHER KIND OF TOURNAMENTS TO BE MORE SMALLER FOOTPRINT AND WORK.

>> ONE BENEFITS OF THE GOLF TOURNAMENTS IS HOW BENEFITS COMMUNITY.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CENTURY THIS YEAR.

BUT CENTURY PUT IN A MILLION DOLLARS TO TO LOCAL COMMUNITIES CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS.

AS WELL AS MR.

YANAI PUT MONEY IN.

WITHOUT A TOURNAMENT PUT THE MONEY IN.

AND WITH THE TOURNAMENT THEY WOULD HAVE DONE THAT YOU ANY WAY.

BENEFITS LOCAL COMMUNITY WE LOOK AT THE BALANCE OF THAT, IMPORTANCE OF THE COMMUNITY.

>>Daryl: I'VE GOT TWO QUESTIONS HERE THAT I THINK ARE INTERESTING IN A WAY THAT I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE ASKED IT WERE INTENDED.

IEMAIL SAYS, PLEASE DON'T WASTE OUR TAXPAYOR MONEY FOOTBALL PLAYERS.

MAINTAIN RAIL, CONVENTION CENTER, BASICALLY WASTE A LOT OF MONEY.

HIGH TAX.

HIGH COST OF LIVING.

WE CAN'T K COMPETE ALL OUTSIDERS BUYING HOMES.

PERSON CONCERNS ABOUT TOURISM IMPACTS.

ALSO QUESTIONED PERFECT FOR YOU, SENATOR, WHAT DOES MEANINGFUL IMPACT LOOK LIKE FOR THE WAIANAE COAST?

PERSON CALLED IN OFF OF YOUTUBE.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD SPREAD THE WEALTH OF THESE EVENTS AROUND BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THIS THERE'S BEEN A TELEVISED EVENT ON THE WEST SIDE.

>> YEAH.

TOO, THE FIRST QUESTION, WE AT THE LEGISLATURE DO TAKE SPENDING VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY.

WE'RE NOT HAPHAZARD ABOUT IT.

VERY INTENTIONAL AND THIS YE YEAR, REALLY TIGHTENING UP OUR BELTS TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE THESE THINGS VERY SERIOUSLY.

ON THE WEST SIDE, WE ARE THROIKSATHLETICS THROUGH AND TH.

EVERY WEEKEND YOU SEE PADDLING OUT, WITH WAIANAE PLAYS YOU JUST HEAR THE ROAR OF WAIANAE IN AND OUT OF WHETHER IT BE FOOTBALL FIELD, WHETHER IT BE ARENA, AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF PRIDE.

WHEN YOU GO TUR NORTH SHORE SID, KAHUKU, DRIVE THROUGH AND SEE KAHUKU FLAGS, RED RATERS EVERYWHERE.

IT'S RED RAIDERS.

SOMETHING REELING BLISS A LOT OF OUR FAMILIAR LUCY AND COMMUNITIES TOGETHER.

WEST SIDE GREAT FIEWNTD TORE OPPORTUNITYFOR SCOOTED SCISDZ KO PARTICIPATE IN LARGER O VENUE AN PARENTS.

>>Daryl: DO YOU THINK VOTERS UNDERSTAND THAT VALUE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>>Daryl: SKATED IT ONE THING AUTOMATIC IN MY DISTRICT IS SPORTS.

EXCITED ABOUT IT HANDS DOWN W E ALL COME OUT GATHER TOGETHER.

MAA TO, HELPING IN THE CONCESSION, PACKING UP, WE ALL HAVE BLEACHER CHAIRS.

WE HAVE OUR SIGNS.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT FAMILIES LOOK FORWARD TO.

AND IT I WILL THIS DAY, AS A MOM, OF THREE BOYS PLAYED SPORTS, I REMEMBER ALL OF THE GAMES AND BEING THERE FOR MY KIDS DURING THAT TIME.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY MORE COMMUNITY-BASED THAN IT IS REVENUE KNEW DRI DRIVER REVENUE DRIVERS HAPPEN DOES THAT AS WELL.

>>Daryl: SOME OF THESE EVENT END UP BEING COMMUNITY EVENTS EVENTPRO-BOWLERS WOULD GO TO KAPOLEI.

GRASS FIELD KAPOLEI HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE THE PRO-BOWLERS WANTED PRACTICE O GRASS FIELD.

THEY PAID FOR IT.

>> YEAH.

HAWAII BOWL AS EXAMPLE, SO WHEN HAWAII WAS PLAYING IN THE HAWAII BOWL, WE SAW DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF ATTENDEES BECAUSE IT'S HAWAII.

WE WANT TO COME OUT AND WE THE WHAT TO SUPPORT OUR PEOPLE.

SO I THINK THE PEOPLE WILL COME OUT.

PUBLIC WILL COME OUT FOR OURSELVES.

>>Daryl: DO YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT YOUR CONSTITUENTS?

>> YEAH.

BEING REPRESENTATIVE FROM WAIKIKI, SOMETHING I REALLY PROUD OF DOING, OUR CONSTITUENTS DO SEE THE BENEFITS OF SPORTS TOURISM BECAUSE THEY SEE THE STREETSES.

PACKED WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO BUY, THINGS AND SHOP.

OUTSIDE OF THE ABC SUPPORT.

AND BRINGS A LOT OF BUSINESS FOR OUR LOCAL VENDORS HERE.

>>Daryl: ALSO HAVE TO GIVE UP THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE?

FOR A PARADE, MARATHON.

DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE A ALWAYS HEAR IMR GRIPES ABOUT IT.

>> IT IS AN CONVE IFN INCONVEN.

AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE DISTRIBUTE AND STATE.

WAIKIKI BRING ONE THEIR OF THE ECONOMY THROUGH TOURISM ITSELF.

AS I SAID PREVIOUS STATISTICS WE SPEND, 3-POINT -- 2,007 HONOLULU MARATHON BROUGHT IN $3.7 MILLION IN STATE TAXES.

THAT WILL GO TOWARDS HOMELESSNESS, INFRASTRUCTURE, GO TOWARDS OTHER THINGS.

OTHER STATISTIC IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THAT, ABOUT $108 MILLION THAT WAS SPENT INTO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.

IN ECONOMIC IMPACT.

>>Daryl: CAN I GET A READ ON THAT.

DIRECTOR TOKIOKA.

WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT SPORTS TOURISM, ANY KIND OF TOURISM, TALK ABOUT HOW MA HUMUNGOUS NINE FIGURE IMPACTS ON ECONOMY.

JUST FOR THE VIEWERS WHO MIGHT NOT GET THAT, W WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAY, STATE TAX REVENUE, AND THE ECONOMY DIRECT SPEBLGHT SPENDING HOW DOU PARSE THAT OUT?

>> YOU INVEST MONEY INTO AN EVENT.

LIKE THIS SONY OPEN.

AND THEN YOU SEE THE OUT COUNT OUTCOME OF THAT.

AGAIN, TRANS-PACIFIC, VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENT.

WHEN YOU INVEST MONEY IN EVENTS LIKE THAT, YOU SEE WHAT IT BRINGS IN.

AND A LOT OF THESE LIKE HONOLULU MARATHON, REPORT RIGHT HERE, JIM AND HIS TEAM, THEY MAIL E'O NAIL NAILED IT DO THE STAYS HOW MANY PEOPLE STAY AFTER.

>>Daryl: THIS IS ACTUAL DA DATA.

>> YES.

>>Daryl: TOURISM ORGANIZATIONS, RETAILERS AND SO ON.

>> AND THANK YOU TO WAM AND HOUSE FOR ALLOWING US TO GET MONEY TO DO SERVICE LIKE THIS.

WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

WHY WE SPEND THE MONEY WHAT THE IMPACT IS.

CRITICAL.

AND I KNOW BOTH IN THE HOUSE FINANCE AND WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS COMING FROM THAT EVENT.

THAT'S GREAT QUESTIONS.

TBHNEVERHAD ENOUGH MONEY TO DO L THE RECORDS.

IF THE RAIL PASSES WE WILL.

>> I WANT TO MENTION THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED THAT THE DISCUSSION TO BRING THE UF.

CR IS VERY REAL AND IT'S HERE.

UFC WE PRODUCE WINNERS AFTER WINNER, SORRY, NOT TO BRAG FROM THE WAIANAE COAST.

>>Daryl: I WENT TO KALANI DOESN'T WORK ME.

>> THAT'S OKAY.

OUR PTHEY'RE PEOPLE TOO T.

>>Daryl: OKAY.

>> I LOVE THE DIVERSITY.

AND THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE ALLOWS THESE OPPORTUNITIES WE CAN TALK ABOUT GOLF, UFC, PICKLEBALL.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT VOLLEYBALL.

BUT HANDS DOWN, THIS IS DEFINITELY A SERIOUS DISCUSSION.

I'M GLAD THE GOVERNOR IS COMING BEHIND SOMETHING AS IMPACTFUL AS UFC.

>>Daryl: REPUBLICAN TO AGREE WITH THE GOVERNOR.

>> SENATOR SPOKEN ABOUT THE STUDY.

AND TODAY, IT WAS THE VOTE ON SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A STUDY.

THE STUDY IS REALLY IMPORTANT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE CAN PUT ALL OF THESE SPORTS IDEAS ON A TABLE.

BUT PUTTING IT INTO WHAT WE MIGHT CALL STRATEGIC GAME PL    N PLAN, LOOKING AT THE FUTURE, WHAT ARE THE TOURIST SPORTS THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOK AT.

FUTURE SPORTS, WANT TO IMPACT WAIANAE COAST, FLAG FOOTBALL WITH A ASIA M ASIA PACIFIC FLAG FOOTBALL BEN BENNETT IF THE TO COMMUNITY LOCAL KIDS TO ASIA PACIFIC KIDS AS AN EXAMPLE.

STUDY HELP US DO THAT.

STUDY BECOMES OUR GPS, ON WHERE WE WANT TO GO.

AND WHEN WE WHERE WE WITHIN WANT TOHATCHED WHERE WE'RE LOOKN THE FUTURE.

WE WANT TO HEAD.

2028 OLYMPICS, WHAT ARE MANY SO OF SPORTS IN THE 2028 OLYMPICS?

WE HAVE SOFTBALL, BA BASEBALL.

FLAG FOOTBALL, KARATE, I TH THINK.

SO WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT, WHY ARE THEY CHOSEN?

>>Daryl: BEACH VOLLEYBALL.

>> >> CORRECT.

SO INTENTIONALLY CHOSEN BECAUSE OF WHO IS THE AUDI AUDIENCE, DOES IT REACH YOUTH?

AND YO YOUNGER AUDIENCES?

PEOPLE WHO STREAM MEDIA LOOK AT IT?

SO I THINK OLYMPICS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN REALLY SMART AND INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF SPORTS THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

SO THEY MUST HAVE A, THEY HAVE A GAME PLANMENT SAIL SAME FOR E 2020 OLYMPICS.

CHOOSE SURFING FORTUNATE FOR US BECAUSE WE HAVE YOU KNOW,.

>>Daryl: DO IT IN TAHITI?

>> YEAH.

2024.

>> IN 2021, WITH IT WAS ACTUALLY HELD, CARISSA MOORE WON THE GOLD ON BEHALF THE UNITED STATES.

AND ON BEHALF OF HAWAII.

SO SURFING WAS PUT IN.

SO WHAT WERE THE OTHER SPORTS?

BMX, BIKE RIDING,.

>>Daryl: INTERRUPT YOU BECAUSE AS YOU START TALKING ABOUT THESE NI ICHE EVENTS.

WHEN WILL OPEN RACETRACK?

BY EWA BEACH?

, OR PEAKS D EXPEDITED RACETRAC?

COULD HAVE RACING EVENTS.

WHAT ABOUT SMALLER MORE NICH EVENTS S SPARTAN RACES OR MOTOR CROSS EVENTS.

CANNOT RE LIE ENTITIES LIKE INFORMAL OR NBA SPORTS WE CAN RELATE TO.

LIKE NFL.

HOW CAN THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS OF FIGURE OUT WHAT SPORTS TO ATTRACT?

SEEMS LIKE ALL HAPPENING HIGHER LEVEL BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

ERIC IN KAILUA.

WHAT ABOUT HOW DO YOU ANALYZE WHETHER EVENT IS THE RIGHT O ONE?

WHAT IS THE PROCESS IF SOMETHING SUGGESTS, THERE'S A THOUSAND PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO DOCCOME AND RACE MOTORCYCLE.

>> SO IT HAPPENS NOW.

IT HAPPENS ORGANICALLY.

SO AT THE LEGISLATURE, IS ONE WAY TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS.

THEY HAVE FINANCE MEETINGS AND WAYS AND MEANS MEETINGS AND PEOPLE CAN COME OUT AND TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE COMMITTEES WHICH IS REPRESENTATIVE TAM.

AND SENATOR DECORT.

WHERE PART OF IT HAPPENS.

BUT ALSO, NOW, SINCE THIS NEW BOARD AT HTA, ADVISORY BOARD, WE HAVE A SPORTS COMMITTEE.

SO NOW, CHRIS WEST IS REP TAM SAID IS GOING TO BE HOLDING MEETINGS.

SO WE'RE GIVING PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS ON SOME OF THE MONEY THAT HTA WILL SPEND FOR TOURISM.

SPORTS TOURISM.

TODAY, THEY JUST HAD THE FILM TOURISM COMMITTEE AND THAT WAS TAKEN INPUT WHAT TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE SHOULD DO TO PROMOTE FILM IN HAWAII.

THOSE TO ANSWER CALLER'S QUESTIONS TWO VENUES THAT HAS JUST STARTED SINCE THIS NEW BOARD BEEN CREATED THAT'S WELCOME BACK WE ARE THIS COULD TALK ABOUT IT.

THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

NOT JUST IN A VACUUM.

>> WHEN THE STATE SUGGEST E'O SIGNALS TO GENERAL PUBLIC INVEST IN SPORTS TOURISM, SIGNAL TIME TO BID F FOR SOME EASTER ISLAEVENTS.LARGER NATIONE BEING LOOKING FOR PLACES TO HOST NEXT TOURNAMENT.

OFF HEEN H OFF OFFEN TIME TOURNS RESTATE CITY TO CITY OR STATE TO STATE.

INVESTING SPORTS TOURISM GIVES INDICATE TORE ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY GROUPS, THAT TIME TO GET YOUR BIDS TOGETHER AND TIME TO MAKE THE CASE ON WHY HAWAII IS THE BEST PLACE TO HOST YOUR NEXT TOURNAMENT.

>>Daryl: SUGGESTION.

>> GO AHEAD.

>>Daryl: QUICK.

SUPPORT OUR VIEWERS CALLING I IN.

LEGISLATOR SUPPORT REPURPOSES HIGHWAYS FOR FEW HOURS FOR BICYCLE TOURISM EVENT?

NEW YORK CITY DOES.

GOOD POINT.

I MEAN, I COULD GET INTO THAT.

THESE EVENTS USE EXISTING HIGHWAY INFRASTRUCTURE.

COULDN'T THEY REPURPOSES FOR FEW HOURS.

HOW DO YOU EVALUATE THAT?

WHETHER YOU GIVE UP A PUBLIC RESOURCE FOR AN EVENT?

>> ON BIG ISLAND, AS EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE THE IRON MAN.

SO THAT IS REVENUE GENERATING MACHINE ALL IN ITSELF.

DOING THAT FOR DECADES.

DEPENDS ON LANDSCAPE WHICH ISLAND IN WE CAN GET OUR OWN VENUE, STADIUM IS DONE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE.

WE THE HAVE B BEST HE VENUE.

ENVIRONMENT.

OCEAN.

LAND, WE HAVE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO START PUSHING SPORTS TOURISM NOW.

>>Daryl: HAD OCCASION RECENTLY TO LEARN THAT THERE IS A WATER T SKI CLUB IN KE KEEI LAGOON.

NO IDEA.

THAT COULD BE A VENUE FOR SOME, THINGS TOO.

LET ALONE THE SURF EVENTS.

NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT SURF YET.

AND ICE HOCKEY AT THE ICE PALACE.

ICE HOCKEY.

YEAH.

WELL, OKAY.

IRWINTER.

>>Daryl: I LOVE ICE HAWAIIAN HHOCICE HOCKEY.BUSINESS OWNERS E TYPE SPORT OVER ANOTHER?

STUDY WELCOME BA BE PLAYED BY T. ALL FACETS INCLUDING BUSINESS PEOPLE.

ANY PREFERENCE OR AS LONG AS THEY COME THROUGH THE DOOR?

>> YOU ACTUALLY THO THAT YOU CAN I IDENTIFY WHO IS HIGHER SPENDER.

BASED ON WHAT TYPE OF SPORT YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT.

SO AND WHAT ISLAND BECAUSE WE HAVE RETAIL M MERCHANTS WE HAVE MEMBERS THAT ARE ACROSS ISL ISLAND.

AS EXAMPLE, BACK ON THE BIG ISLAND, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THAT EVENT HAPPENS AT THAT TIME PERIOD.

BECAUSE THE SPEND GOES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I WANT TO MENTION ONE THING ABOUT MARATHON AN EVENTS THAT HAVE EXPOS.

SO FOR RETAILERS,.

>>Daryl: EXPOS OKAY.

TELL ME WHAT AN EXPO IS.

>> IF YOU GO TO THE HONOLULU MARATHON, SIGN UP, NEXT TO THE SIGN UP IS EXPO.

AND EXPO FROM MY VIEWPOINT IS SHOWCASE GLOBAL SHOWCASE OF MERCHANDISE.

HAWAII MADE IN HAWAII VENDORS THERE.

VENDORS AND HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

THAT COME FROM HAWAII.

WHO ARE INTRODUCING PRODUCTS.

ACTUALLY MARKET ENTRY POINT.

SO THAT AS INTERNATIONAL EV EVENT, CALL MARATHON INTERNATIONAL EVENT BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD GO THERE.

THIS MAY BE THEIR FIRST TIME TO ACTUALLY SEE SOME MADE IN HAWAII PRODUCTS.

MAYBE THEIR FIRST TIME SEE SOME HEALTH AND WELLNESS PRODUCTS FROM HAWAII OR FROM OTHER PLACES BECAUSE PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD ACTUALLY DISPLAY AT THE HONOLULU MARATHON AS A VEND U VENUE TO SE THEIR PRODUCTS TO TH TYPE OF AUDIENCE.

>> I DO WANT TO PITCH TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE DOING THIS STUDY AND DOING THE WORK, THAT WE ARE IMPLEMENTING SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AS WELL.

SO IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY GETS TO SEE THAT THE TABLE AND GETS SEAT AT THE TABLE RESPONSIBILITY TO RECEIVE A LOT OF THIS REVENUE.

HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE A LOT OF THIS REVENUE.

>>Daryl: INTERESTING POINT HOW OFTEN CAN YOU EXPO INTO EVENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENT HAD AN EXPO.

>> THEY DID.

OUTSIDE.

NO ROOM ON THE INSIDE.

10,000 PEOPLE THERE.

NO ROOM ON THE INSIDE.

>>Daryl: HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF THAT ASPECT.

DIRECTOR.

>> REALLY IMPORTANT ASPECT TO ADDITIONAL INCOME THAT COMES IN.

WHEN THEY VISITOR CAN GOES HOME, THEY MAY PURCHASE ON E-COMMERCE.

HAWAII PRODUCTS.

OBECOMES EXPORT SPE SEN TECHNICL INTERNATIONALLY.

SENDING IT INTERNATIONALLY.

ALL OF THAT BENEFITS RETA RETAILERS, MANUFACTURERS.

>>Daryl: AVAILABLE FACILITIES.

SO WE TALK ABOUT THE STADIUM.

THAT STILL ON TIME, AND 2029 NOW?

>> YES.

WELL, IT'S ON TIME NOW.

I MEAN, WE GOT TO GIVE BIG SHOUT OUT STANFORD CARR AND STADIUM AUTHORITY.

THEY'VE BEEN I SPEND HOURS IN SOME OF THESE MEETINGS AND BEEN GOING THROUGH EVERY SINGLE DETAIL.

SOMETIMES I THINK IT'S A LITTLE MUCH.

STAN FARDEN DSTAN FORD DIDN'T G. LOCAL BUSINESSMAN.

PROM AROUND IT APARTMENTS FOR LOCAL PEOPLE, PROJECTS AROUND IT, BIG SHOUT TO STANFORD.

>>Daryl: CONVENTION CENTER IS NOW AN ISSUE.

>> RIGHT.

>>Daryl: WHERE ARE WE WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER IN TERMS OF ITS DAY-TO-DAY, PLAY-BY-PLAY IN STUDIO C, PRESENTED BY THE BYU STORE, THE OFFICIAL OUTFITTER OF BYU CAPABILITY?WE DON'T HAVE A STAD.

DO WE HAVE A CONVENTION CENTER?

>> WE HAVE EXHIBIT HALL DOWN BELOW.

ONE, TWO AND THREE CAN HOST TOURNAMENTS LIKE VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENT.

BROUGHT PICKLEBALL COURTS.

HAVE VOLLEYBALL CORE COURTS BASKETBALL COURTS.

WORK RIGHT NOW WITH THE OAHU PICKLEBALL ASSOCIATION TO BRING ANOTHER TOURNAMENT BACK.

HUGE ONE LAST YEAR.

BUT FOCUSING HOW DO YOU CHOOSE WHERE THESE PEOPLE COME FROM AND THE SPORT.

SO FOR PICKLEBALL, THERE WAS A LOT OF LOCAL PEOPLE THAT PLAYED.

AND LOVED IT.

BUT WANT TO MAKE IT EXPAND IT TO BRING IN CLUBS, FROM PARTICULAR AREAS, IN THE CALIFORNIA AREA.

WHERE THEY HAVE MONEY TO SP SPEND.

WHETHER IT'S PAL ALTO, LA COSTA, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT COUNTRY CLUB PEOPLE LOVE PICKLEBALL.

AND IF THEY COME, AND THEY SPEND THEIRE THEIR MONEY PEOPLET ARE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY OF YOU TALKED ABOUT WHAT SPORT.

FORMULA ONE IS A SPORT THAT PEOPLE SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD CHOOSE WHETHER WE INVEST MONEY IN AN EVENT OR NOT.

>>Daryl: CAN I GO BACK TO CULTURAL OPPORTUNITY HERE?

ACTUALLY NEXT WEEKEND, PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT THAT SET UP BY THE JAPAN PICKLEBALL ASSOCIATION.

AND THE HAWAII JAPAN PICKLEBALL ASSOCIATION.

AT PICKLES AT FOR THE FORT BRINN SISTER CITIES FOR PLAYERS THAT EACH SISTER CITY.

LIKE A CULTURAL EXCHANGE THROUGH PICKLEBALL.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

>>Daryl: SO INTERESTING QUESTION.

WHY NOT INVEST IN LOCAL SPORTING EVENTS LIKE THE MOLOKAI HOE?

THAT'S INTERESTING QUESTION.

I MEAN, THERE'S BIG RE TBAWT REGATTAS.NOT REGATTA.

CANOE PADDLING, REGATTA.

RIGHT.

>> YEAH.

>>Daryl: I PICTURE BIG SAILBOATS.

BUT YEAH,.

>> SO WE HAVE SOME OF THE BIGGEST SURFING CONTESTS, BEACH ACTIVITIES IN THE WORLD HERE IN HAWAII.

SO WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT WHEN WE GO OUT TO BEACHES, I MEAN, HOW DO YOU CHARGE PEOPLE TO COME AND WATCH SURFERS?

AS LITTLE HARD TO GENERATE THAT KIND OF REVENUE BECAUSE IF YOU GO OUT TO WAIMEA PEOPLE PARK AT THE TOP, WATCHING DO DOWN.

THAT ONE IS JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT.

BUT I THINK THE STUDY WILL HELP IN HOW WE CAN REALLY CAPITALIZE OFF OF WE JUST FINISHED T THE 49TH ANNUAL BUFFALO CONTEST.

IN MAKAHA AND THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ON THE BEACH IN MAKAHA.

AND VENDORS WERE GOING WILD.

MERCHANDISE WAS BEING PUT OUT THERE.

GREAT FOR THE WAIANAE COAST.

>>Daryl: TEL TELEVISED?

>> NO.

IT WASN'T TELEVISED BUT IT WAS ON LIVESTREAM.

WE HAVE ALL THE WAY SURF CAMERAS THAT ARE THERE.

BUT AGAIN, LIKE WE ARE IN THE BEST PLACE FOR OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES.

SURFING, NUMBER ONE.

AS DAVE MENTIONED, CONSIDER IS CARISSA MOORE, OLYMPIC WINNERS HERE.

CONCENTRATE MORE ON THE LOCAL MARKET, WITH ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE.

>>Daryl: REPRESENTATIVE TAM, WHAT DO YOU SEE AS OTHER K NEW IDEAS IN THIS AREA THAT ARE PROMISING.

>> AREA OF SPORTS TOURISM.

>>Daryl: SPORTS TOURISM OR IDEA THAT MOLOKAI HOE, QUITE A BEAUTIFUL IMPRESSIVE HUGE EVENT.

YOU DO SPONSOR.

>> WE DO SENATOR DEDECOIT WATCHING WOULDN'T LET US NOT SPONSOR.

RIGHT?

>>Daryl: OKAY.

WE DO SPONSOR IS.

WOFORTWHOEVER CALLER IS.

>>Daryl: SPONSORED SPORTS TOURISM EVENT?

MEANT TO ATTRACT TOURISTS?

THERE'S PEOPLE FROM A ALL AROUND THE WORLD THAT COME.

BROADCAST EVENT FROM HAWAII, IT'S INDIRECT TOURISM MARKETING FOR US HERE BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE FROM MINNESOTA IN THE COLD SEEING BEAUTIFUL BEACHES PERFECT WEATHER.

NOW IN THEIR HEAD THINKING, YOU KNOW WHAT?

MAYBE IT'S TIME TO PLAN THAT HAWAII VACATION.

THAT WE'VE BEEN SAVING UP FOR ALL OF THESE YEARS.

>>Daryl: COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.

THE AGAIN, ANOTHER PERSON WANTS TO PARTICULAR SPORT.

FROM HAWAIIAN BELLA INSTAGRAM.

WANT TO MAKE HAWAII GLOBAL POWERHOUSE?

RUGBY.

ONLY POLYNESIAN PLACE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LOCAL NATIONAL RRUGBY TEAM.

IMAGINE THE COMPETITIVE, HAWAII HAWAIIAN FIJI.

SAMOA.

WHAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF RUGBY?

YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT.

>> I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.

WE GOT TO GET RUGBY ON THE PLAYING FIELD.

BECAUSE WE HAVE A MAKE UP OF A LOT OF POLYNESIANS AND THAT IS HUGE IN THE POLYNESIAN ISLAND.

THAT'S DEFINITELY A R AREA WE HAVE TAP INTO AND GOT TO TAKE IT SERIOUS.

>>Daryl: HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED TO DEVELOP THE LOCAL RUGBY.

THERE'S TEAMS ALREADY OUT THERE.

PLAYING ALL AT KAPIOLANI PARK.

WE SEE THEM ALL THE TIME.

SO WE HAVE TO DO OUR BEST TO GET BEHIND THOSE KINDS OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALREADY HAVE THE PARTICIPANTS.

>>Daryl: WHAT ABOUT PARTICIPATING?

NATIONAL LEAGUES?

LIKE PROFESSIONAL SOCCER LEAGUES, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVENT OR TOURNAMENT HERE.

BUT WHAT ABOUT PROFESSIONAL TEAMS COMING?

WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL THERE.

>> REALLY HARD BECAUSE OF THE COST.

LIKE NFL, OR WE HAD ISLANDERS HERE.

WE HAD.

>>Daryl: I REMEMBER THE WORLD FOOTBALL LEAGUE.

>> YEAH.

THE COST TO BRING ATHLETES IS JUST OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

BUT HARD TO FUND.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RUGBY, I HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE RING BY ORGANIZATIONS.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP BACK WITH ME BACK TO US WITH A PLAN.

RUG U RUGBY ORGANIZATION.

WHAT THEY THINK THEY CAN HOW MANY TEAMS THEY CAN GET IN THE POLYNESIA YEAH.

DON'T FORGET, JAPAN WAS GOLD MEDALIST IN THE LAST OLYMPICS?

RUGBY.

>>Daryl: EUROPE.

>> I WAS WATCHING ITMENT OH, MY GOODNESS.

I THOUGHT MOST RUGBY PLAYERS WERE HUGE.

BUT THEY ARE PRETTY, NOT AS TALL, BUT VERY FAST.

IT'S A SPORT THAT WE CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE STADIUM AND STANFORD CARR KNOW THAT IS THAT IN FACT ONE WHO BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTE ATTENTION.

INTRODUCED SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT MET?

THIS NARROW THIS QUESTION DO DOWN.

FOR EXAMPLE, PARTICIPATED IN NATIONAL SOCCER ONE OF THOSE PROFESSIONAL LEAGUES OR TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER PROFESSIONAL LEAGUES.

IS THERE FOLKS FOR SOCCER TE TEAM?

JUST TOO HARD?

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A SOCCER TEAM.

BUT THE SEATTLE RAIN, WE'RE NEGOTNEGOTIATIONS CONTRACT GOINO BE SIGN SOON.

SEATTLE RAIN IS WOMEN'S SOCCER TEAM.

THEY CAN'T PLAY IN THEIR FIELD BECAUSE OF THE WORLD CUP COMING TO UNITED STATES.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BRING THEIR WE'RE NOT NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT NOW FOR THEM TO BRING THEIR TEAM HERE.

TO PLAY INTERNATIONAL TEAMS FOR PRESEASON.

AT WAIPIO, AND THEY'RE GOING TO INVEST INTO THE FIELD AND TO FACILITY AND COACH BUDDY LOVE COACH BUD, AWESOME.

AT THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII, KNOWS THE PRINCIPALS OF THE SEATTLE RAIN AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING CLINICS FOR THE KIDS.

SO THERE'S ALL KIND OF THE BALLS IN THE AIR AT THE HAWAII DBEDT.

>>Daryl: JUST NO INTEREST IN HAVING ACTUAL PROFESSIONAL TEAM GOVERNMENT BE WILLING TO SPONSOR THEM?

>> YOUR VIEW VIEWERS MIGHT THINK OTHERWISE.

DEPENDINGS WHAT IT COST.

MIGHT HAVE TO BREAK THAT DOWN, RUGBY MAYBE.

BACK TO THE VIEWER'S QUESTION, TRAINING CAMPS AND THESE TYPE OF YEE EVENTS THAT THEY'RE WORKG ON O, BETTER THAN PRO TEAM?

THE QUESTION ON THE PRO TEAM IS IT VIABLE IN THE LONGTERM?

IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO HAVE A PRO TEAM.

SO MAYBE WE'RE NOT IN THAT GAME TO HAVE A PRO TEAM HERE.

BUT TO HAVE THESE OTHER KINDS OF EVENTS THAT WORK US.

RIGHT FIT FOR HAWAII.

>>Daryl: I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I DO REMEMBER GOING TO THE ISLANDER GAMES.

AND I SUPPOSE TO A CERTAIN EXCEPT THAT WAS, A AA TEAM.

THAT WAS A SERIOUS TEAM.

YOU HAD BIG NAME PLAYERS COMING OUT AND PLAYING HERE.

NOT BIG AISLYNN CROWDER AT THE STADIUM.

BIG CROWDS.

GOT A BIG STADIUM.

WITH A SMALLER STADIUM, LESS EXPENSIVE VENUE STILL DOESN'T WORK?

>> GIVE YOU PERFECT EXAMPLE.

DUANE KARISO HAWAII WINTER LEG HE LEAGUE BASEBALL.

CAME OUT OF HAWAII WINTER LEAGUE.

OHIO.

JASON.

ALL OF THESE PLAYERS, BIG IN THE MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL, PLAYED, FOR THE HAWAII WINTER LEAGUE BASEBALL AND DUANE IS ONE OF THE MOST INNOVATIVE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS PEOPLE BUT HE COULDN'T MAKE IT, COULDN'T WORK.

SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE EXAMPLES THAT GIVE THE PAUSE TO WHETHER WE GET A PROFESSIONAL TEAM.

OR NOT.

>>Daryl: DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT?

DO YOU LIKE AI HA AIDEA SORT OF DECENTRALIZED EVENTS HAPPENING MORE.

EVENTUALLY, CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

HAVING PROFESSIONAL TEAM, BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO FOCUS ON TOURNAMENTS HERE.

TO BRING IN VISITOR SPENDING AN GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE STATE AND BRING IN POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACTS.

OUTSIDE OF THE STADIUM WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF OTHER VENUES THAT CAN BE UTILIZED.

BLAISDELL CENTER OR THE SO FIGHT ARENA STAN SHERIFF CENTER.

SOFI ARENA.

THINGS NEIGHBOR ISLANDS, LA OAHU INA TENNIS RATCH LAHAINA TENNIS R RANCH.

WELL EQUIPPED TO HOST A TOURNAMENT LIKE THE DAVIS CUP QUALIFIERS.

>>Daryl: APPETITE FOR INVESTING IN MORE VENUES?

?

LIKE THAT, I MEAN, OR, WAI KNEW SIDE.

WAIANAESIDE DON'T HAVE A FANCY N I VENUE OUT THERE.

SHINY VENUE.

>> WE DON'T.

>> JUST KIND FOG FOCUSING WE DO HAVE, ENVIRONMENT BEACH THOSE KINDS OF THINGS I THINK THAT IF WE CAN FOCUS ON MAYBE GETTING STADIUM FOCUS ON THAT FIRST, MAYBE WE CAN BRANCH OUT TO OTHER PROJECTS.

BUT I THINK FOR RIGHT NOW, WE'RE VERY LIMITED.

WE'RE ONLY ON AN ISLAND.

WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T OVERWHELM OUR COMMUNITIES WITH SUCH A LARGE POPULATION OF VISITORS WHETHER IT BE EVERY WEEKEND OR SO ON.

BUT DEFINITELY THINK THAT IF WE CAN TAP INTO MORE OF THESE ACTIVITIES LIKE THE HONOLULU MARATHON, BROUGHT IN $530 MILLION, I THINK THAT IS AREA THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THE DEG CONFERRING ON.

>>Daryl: REEL HE IS HAVE THE CONVERSATION ON.

>>Daryl: REEL REALISTIC.

>> VERY REALISTIC.

>>Daryl: ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, ONE OF THE REGULAR BIG TICKET THINGS WE ARE COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

COLLEGE BASKETBALL.

PEOPLE COME HERE TO WATCH THESE GA GAMES.

HOW IMPORTANT E SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, KIND OF QUESTION LEGISLATURE SHOULD WE BE PAYING ATHLETES OUT OF TAXPAYOR MONEY AF IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THAT TPLF AT DIVISION 1 LEVEL JIMMY WHAT IS STATE'S POSITION?

YOU GUYS SUPPORT NEUL NIL MONEY IEWMPLET U U.H.

IS ASKING FOR.

>> TO.

NOT THROUGH HA EFFECTIVE ATA WET UNIVERSITY PROGRAM.

NEVER USED TO DO IT BEFORE TO THIS LEVEL.

SENATOR WAKAI ASKED FOR MONEY TO BRING THE BASEBALL TEAM TO JAPAN.

THEY RECRUITED PITCHER FROM THAT TRIP.

SO WE SPONSORED THAT TRIP.

WE'RE GOING TO SPONSOR THREE OTHER EVENTS TWO OTHER EVENTS IN JAPAN.

SO.

>>Daryl: TAKING U.H.

BASEBALL TEAM TO JAPAN?

>> YES.

AND VOLLEYBALL TOO.

SO WE SPONSORED BIG WEST TOURNAMENT.

SO WE ARE PARTNERS WITH THE UNIVERSITY BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR PROFESSIONAL TEAM.

SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

>>Daryl: COMMITMENT THERE TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO KEEP IT IF I DIVISION 1 LEVEL.

ABSOLUTELY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE MONEY WE GIVE THEM KEEPS THEM AT DIVISION 1.

BUT THERE IS CERTAINLY BIG SUPPORT FROM THE LEGISLATURE TO KEEP THEM DIVISION 1.

IT'S NOT CHEAP.

IT'S EXPENSIVE.

>>Daryl: DOES IT GO WITHOUT SAYING THAT THERE'S ALSO A TOURISM ASPECT TO THAT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>>Daryl: WHAT WOULD YOU SAY VALUE IS OF IT?

>> REPRESENTATIVE TAM?

NOT DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR BUT HOW DO YOU THINK IT WORKS IN HELPING SPORTS TOURISM CONCEPT?

>> LIKE WHETHER WE SEND PLAYERS TO JAPAN OR OWN EARN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN ASIA, REMINDS, RESIDENTS THERE THAT HAWAII IS A DESTINATION THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS VISIT AND SPEND YOUR MONEY AT.

BUT I THINK THAT LNL EVALMOSTEVERYTHING THAT CAN COMT OF SPORTS TOURISM IS INDIRECT MARKETING FOR OUR STATE.

ALSO IS ABILITY TO SHOWCASE WHO WE ARE BECAUSE HAWAII IS UNIQUE FROM OTHER PLACES.

BECAUSE WE HAVE A RICH HISTORY AND RICH CULTURE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

AND THAT REALLY GOES, HAND IN HAND WITH OUR REGE REGENERATIVE TOURISM STRATEGIES.

>>Daryl: I WONDER IF IS THERE A MOTION OR MOVEMENT TO LIKE INFORM VISITORS THAT THERE IS THIS EVENT OR THAT EVENT, HOW DO VISITORS FIND OUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO GO, WHAT DO YOU KNOW, BASEBALL GAME UP IN MANOA?

WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO WATCH BASEBALL GAME.

FOOTBALL GAMES MOSTLY GOING TO BE SOLD OUT IN WE HAVE A REAL STADIUM.

IS THERE SOMETHING TO THAT?

I MEAN, MARKETING GUY.

DO YOU THINK THE ARRANGE TOURISTS WOULD LIKE TO KNOW?

AVERAGE TOURISTS.

MAYBE I'M GO I'LL GO TO BASEBALL GAME.

>> POTENTIALLY BACKGROUND SPORTS TOURISM, STUDY IS TO UNDERSTAND HOW DO WE REACH VISITORS WHO WILL MAKE INTENTIONAL DECISION TO COME TO HAWAII FIRE SPECIFIC EVENT, WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO WATCH IT OR PARTICIPATE IN IT, OR BRING THEIR FO FAMILY.

THAT'S THE SABAS OF THE STUDY.

BASIS OF STUDY.

AND WE CAN DO MORE TO HAVE THEM POTENTIALLY GO OUT AND SEE SOME OF THESE OTHER LOCAL EVENTS.

BUT I THAT'S POTENTIALLY DIFFERENT TYPE OF TOURISTS.

THTHAN IT'S ONES WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET THROUGH.

SPORTS TOURISM.

MARKETING APPROACHES.

>> DATA PROVES THAT WHEN WE HAVE SPORTING EVENTS, LIKE HONOLULU MARATHON, SONY OPEN, THAT TOURISTS COME INTEXT INTENTIONALLY FOR THIS EVENT.

AND THEY GO HOME AFTER.

SO I THEY THAT IF WE CONTINUE TO DRIVE THAT MACHINE, THAT WE'LL FIND MORE REVENUE STREAMS THAT WE CAN TAP INTO FOR OUR LOCAL MARKET, FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, SO YEAH, I THINK STAYING THERE IS SAFE FOR US AND IT'S PROFITABLE.

>>Daryl: BIG PICTURE, WONDERING WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT EVENT WES COULD HAVE EVENTS GOING ON, EVERY MONTH OF THE YEAR THEORETICALLY OR EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS.

>> WAR WE CAN HAVE THEM EVERY D.

>> THAT'S GOAL.

NOT ALL OF THEM HTA CAN SPONSOR BUT THAT'S THE GOAL.

>>Daryl: IF THE ORGANIZATION CAN BE HELPED TO BUILD THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE AND DO THEIR OWN FUNDING AND THEIR OWN MARKETING, CAN BE CONTINUOUS.

>> ONE A LOT OF SUPPORT WE'RE GETTING FOR IS THE SAVANNAH BANANAS.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

SHANE VICTORINO IS ON MAUI.

ONE OF HIS TEAMS PLAYS AGAINST THEM.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT.

GUARANTEE YOU PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GET TO SEE THEM IN THE MAINLAND, COULD PROBABLY FLY TO HAWAII AND SEE THEM.

BECAUSE THEY'RE THAT BIG.

>>Daryl: I SAW THEM ON TELEVISION.

THAT IS WHACKY.

>> SISTER MAY BE WATCHING.

CLAPPING RIGHT NOW.

>> HELP HOPING OPEN UP NEW STADIUM THEN OR BEFORE THAT I IN.

>> SHANE IS ONE OF COACHES OF THE OTHER TEAM TE PROBABLY START IN MAUI.

>>Daryl: DESCENT BASEBALL TEAM.

FIELD IN MANOA.

>> YEAH.

THAT COULD BE THERE TOO.

>> THEY PLAYED SMALL STADIUMS TOO.

SO SIZE DOESN'T SEEM TO MATTER.

>> THEY TURN FOOTBALL FIELDS INTO BASEBALL FIELDS.

IT'S AMAZING PHENOMENA.

>>Daryl: KIND OF FUN CONVERSATION WE'VE JUST HAD.

BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF PHENOMENA YOU, THAT'S FUN FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS TOO.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

HUGE COMMUNITY.

>>Daryl: ALL DONE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINS FOR TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION.

TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS: REPRESENTATIVE ADRIAN TAM AND DAVE ERDMAN FROM THE RETAIL MERCHANTS OF HAWAII, AND DIRECTOR JAMES TOKIOKA FROM DBEDT AND SENATOR SAMANTHA DECORTE.

ON THE NEXT INSIGHTS, HAWAII HAS LAUNCHED A GREEN FEE, RAISING TAXES ON HOTEL ROOMS, VACATION RENTALS AND CRUISE SHIPS.

THE MONEY RAISED IS DESIGNED TO ADDRESS CLIMATE AND TOURISM IMPACTS, BUT WE WILL ALSO ASK HOW IT WILL AFFECT LOCAL RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND THE VISITOR INDUSTRY I'M DARYL HUFF FOR INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI‘I.

ALOHA!

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