STOLEN CROPS, MISSING ANIMALS — IT'S HAPPENING MORE THAN YOU THINK.

AGRICULTURE CRIME IS A GROWING PROBLEM ACROSS HAWAII, HITTING FARMERS, RANCHERS AND EVEN BACKYARD GARDENERS.

AND IT IS FAR FROM HARMLESS, AS SOME MAY THINK, EVEN COSTING ONE MAN HIS LIFE.

SO WHAT'S BEING DONE TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING?

TONIGHT'S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVE STREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII START NOW.

♪ ♪ ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII.

I'M LAUREN DAY.

WHETHER IT'S MISSING MANGOES TO STOLEN LIVESTOCK, AG CRIMES AFFECTING OUR LOCAL FARMERS AND RANCHERS ARE MORE COMMON...AND MORE DANGEROUS THAN YOU MAY THINK.

TONIGHT WE'RE EXPLORING THIS OFTEN UNREPORTED THREAT AND SEEING WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW.

YOU CAN EMAIL OR CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS AND YOU'LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAII YOUTUBE PAGE.

NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.

SENATOR TIM RICHARDS GREW UP ON KAHUA RANCH IN WAIMEA AND NOW REPRESENTS THE TOWN AND THE NORTH SHORE OF THE BIG ISLAND IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

HE ALSO SERVES AS VICE CHAIR OF THE SENATE'S AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE.

LANI CRAN PETRIE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HAWAII CATTLEMEN'S COUCIL AND CURRENTLY RUNS KAPAPALA RANCH IN KA'U ON THE BIG ISLAND.

IN 2015, SHE WAS INDUCTED INTO THE PANIOLO HALL OF FAME.

BRIAN MIYAMOTO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HAWAII FARM BUREAU.

IT'S THE LARGEST AGRICULTURAL ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE WITH 1800 FARM FAMILY MEMBERS STATEWIDE.

JEFF MALATE IS A DEPUTY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY FOR HAWAII COUNTY.

HE JOINED THE OFFICE IN 2002 AFTER MOVING TO THE BIG ISLAND FROM OAHU IN 2001.

HE IS A GRADUATE OF THE WILLIAM S. RICHARDSON SCHOOL OF LAW.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND FOR THE TWO OF YOU FOR FLYING IN.

TO OAHU TO BE HERE.

I WANT TO START WITH YOU.

JUST HOW COMMON ARE AG CRIMES IN THE STATE OF HAWAII?

>> VERY COMMON.

BUT AS I SAID ON UNREPORTED, UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND STATE DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT OF AGRICUE SURVEY 2019 LAST DATE.

IMPACT TO FARMERS RANCHERS $14.4 MILLION.

WE KNOW THAT'S UNDER REPORTED.

AG CRIMES HAPPENING EVERY DAY TO FARMER AND RANCHERS.

GROWING THREAT.

SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WE'RE THRILLED WITH WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DID THIS YEAR TO HOLD HOPEFULLY LEE DEUCE SOME OF THE AG CRIME.

AFFECT IT'S EVERY FARMS AND RARN CHER ACROSS THE ISLAND.

>>Lauren: I WAS SHOCKED.

FRANKLY JUST HEARING ABOUT FROM ALL YOU HAVE HOW OFTEN THESE AG CRIMES HAPPEN.

WHY DO THE FOUR OF YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FARMER AND RANCHERS DON'T HEAR ABOUT THESE CRIMES SO MUCH?

>> NOT TREATED WITH ANY IMPORTANCE.

UP TO THIS POINT.

THE COMMENT HAVE BEEN MADE, JUST TRESSES PASSING.

WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?

JUST TAKING MANGOS.

WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS.

AND LOSS OF ONE OF OUR RANCHERS BECAUSE OF WE HAD SOMEONE THAT WAS TRESPASSING AND LEGALLY HUNTING, THAT'S THE BIG DEAL.

AND AS BRIAN AND I, KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A LONG TIME.

SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON LITERALLY FOR DECADES.

TRYING TO HEIGHTEN THE AWARENESS FIRST OF ALL OF THE CRIMES.

AND SHE SHOW THE IMPORTANCE WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET THIS DONE.

BIG CHALLENGES BIG ISLAND, BORROWING STATEMENT FROM MAYOR KIM, WAS THE PROBLEM WITH BIG ISLAND, IS THE BIG.

THE POINT OF THAT STATEMENT IS IN AGRICULTURE, TYPICALLY, THINGS WERE STRETCHED OUT.

AND IN MY SENATE DISTRICT ALONE, YOU CAN PUT THREE OAHU SHELDON OHUS.FARGUARD THAT PROT.

SHIFT IN THE PARADIGM.

>> SENATOR SAID A LOT OF FARMERS AND RANCHERS RURAL AREAS.

LESS LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE THERE.

EYES WATCHING.

AG CRIMES ARE NOT JUST THEFT ANY MORE.

IT'S THEFT VANDALISM.

TRESPASSING POACHING AND SOMETIMES THESE CRIMES DON'T RISE TO THE LEVEL AS OTHER MORE HIGH PROFILE CRIMES.

LESS OFFICERS.

MAYBE CRIMES AREN'T CONSIDERED AS IMPORTANT AS SENATOR SAYS.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH TAKING SOME MANGOS SOME BANANA,.

TRESPASSING TO EITHER GO HUNTING OR HE EVEN SOMETIMES TO GO TO HIKING TRAIL.

SO OUR FARMERS AND RANCHERS WOULD OPEN SPACES CAN'T AFFORD TO FENCE EVERY PIECE OF THEIR PROPERTY.

CAN'T PUT CAMERAS UP.

IMMIGRANT FARMING POPULATION SOMETIMES THERE'S A LANGUAGE BARRIER.

SOMETIMES JUST IN THE NATURE OF WHERE THE FARMS ARE, TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THE POLICE TO GET OUT THERE.

WE HEARD FROM FARMERS AND RANCHERS THAT MAYBE NOTHING REALLY HAPPENS.

SO THEY STOP REPORTING.

THE CRIMES.

THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF REASONS WHY WE HAVE SO MUCH AG CRIME AND WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING MUCH UNTIL NOW.

OUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING THE BEST THAT THEY CAN.

THEY'RE UNDERSTAFFED.

PROSECUTORS ARE DOING THE JOB THEY BEST THEY CAN.

AGAIN, HAVING A DEDICATED LAW ENFORCEMENT BRANCH IN THE DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ADDRESS AGRICULTURAL CRIMES WORKING WITH FARMS AND RANCHERS WE BELIEVE WILL GO A L&G WAY DETERRING SOME OF THESE CRIMINALS GOING AFTER THE EASY TARGETSES.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE EASY TARGETS.

>>Lauren: UNFORTUNATELY I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN A STREAM BRIDGE OF TH AG CRIMES WAY TOO MANY TIMES.

BEEN A STREAM BRIDGE CAN YOU GIVE VIEWERS WHAT THE PICTURE OF WHAT YOUR RANCH IS LIKE AND GIVE US IDEA WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH.

>> SIZE PEARL CITY TO KOKO HEAD.

IN A DISTRICT SIZE OF MOLOKAI.

ON A TYPICAL DAY, THREE TO FIVE POLICEMEN ON DUTY.

SO YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH ON YOUR OWN.

WHAT I'VE S SEEN IN MY LIFETIME IS GAME OF PROBABILITY.

RAISED ON THIS ISLAND, OAHU, AND WHAT HAPPENED TO CRANSTON COULD HAVE HAPPENED TO MY FATHER.

50 YEARS AGO.

60 YEARS AGO.

WHAT HAPPENED TO CRANSTON COULD HAVE HAPPENED TO MY HUSBAND TEN CAN YEARS AGO.

GAME OF PROBABILITY.

NOT A GAME.

IT'S THE FRONT IS THE GOING TO HOOP.

PROBABILITY IS GO T IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SOME AWARENESS, BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THE FAMILY LOST SOMEBODY.

IT WAS GOING GOING TO HAPPEN ANT HAPPENED.

I'M GLAD THAT THIS IS COME TO THE LEGISLATURE AND THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT CAN COME FROM MY OPINION IS JUST PUBLIC AWARENESS.

JUST IN THE OTHER ROOM, DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THESE RANCHES.

>>Lauren: I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DUKE'S LAW.

I WANT TO DIVE INTO THAT.

CAN YOU TELL US FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, WE ARE SOME OF THE AG CRIMES THAT YOU'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING ON THE BIG ISLAND?

>> WE DON'T HAVE AS BIG A THEFT ISSUE AS OTHER PLACES.

OUR BIG PROBLEM IS NIGHT HUNTING DISTURBING ANIMALS COULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES.

WHO ANIMALS GET, SLEEP AT NIGHT.

IF THEY'RE STARTLED, AND 400 ANIMALS JUMP UP AND RUN, OUR HIGHWAY FRONTAGE IS HIGHWAY 11.

AND PEOPLE SPEED DOWN THAT ROD AT NIGHT AND THAT ROAD AT NIGHT AND OUR BIG CONCERN IS PUBLIC SAFETY.

IF ANIMALS GET ST ST STARTLED ON THAT I HAD, GEARING TO BE LIBEL FOR EVERYBODY GETS IN AN ACCIDENT ON THAT I HAD.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LIBEL FRONT AND CENTER, WHETHER OUR EXPOSURE IS VERY HIGH.

>>Lauren: I WANT TO TALK ABOUT CATTLE GETTING OUT.

HURNTS HUNTERS PROPERTY.

TESS PRESIDENTIAL RACING PAKISTANEL -- TRESPASSING, SPOOKING ANIMALS.

>> NOT UNLIKE LANI WHAT SHE EXPERIENCED.

SAME DEAL.

WORRY ABOUT ANIMALS GETTING OUT.

THERE IS A STORY ACTUALLY NOT A STORY, ANOTHER RANCHER THAT HAD FRONTAGE ON THE HIGHWAY, HAD SOMEONE COME IN AND STEAL THE FENCE POSTS, FENCE WAS STANDING AND FROM A DISTANCE, YOU COULD SEE THE FENCE STANDING.

BUT DIDN'T HAVE THE POSTS.

SO IF YOU PUT CATTLE IN THERE, THEY WOULD GO UP TO THE FENCE AND FENCE WOULD LIE DOWN.

SO THEN THE CATTLE GET ON THE HIGHWAY.

LIABILITY.

WHOSE?

RAN CHORES DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN.

RRANCHERS DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN.

ILLEGAL POACHING ILLEGAL HUNTING AND TRESPASS 2-AND-A-HALF, 3 MONTHS AGO NOW, WE HADEL HAD COWBOYS THREES HUNTING MIDDLE OF THE DAY.

200 YARDS FROM MY HOME.

YOUNG KIDS WERE OUT THERE.

THEY'RE ARMED.

THE REASON THEY'RE HUNTING IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THERE'S NO PENALTY.

NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?

JUST CROSSING THE LAND.

AND TALK ABOUT RAISING THE AWARENESS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP US COMMUNICATE HOW SERIOUS THIS IS.

>>Lauren: HEARING ABOUT WHAT LANI BEEN THROUGH, SENATOR RICHARDS BEEN THROUGH, COUNTY PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE TODAY TRYING TO DO TO COMBAT THIS ISSUE?

>> FEW YEARS AGO, WE STARTED THE TASK FORCE, MEETING BETWEEN POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SOME OF COUNTY OFFICIALS AND MEMBERS OF OUR OFFICE.

AND WHAT WE TRIED TO DO SPECIFICALLY THOUGH WITH THE TYPES OF CASES THAT CAME ACROSS MY DESK, WERE AGRICULTURE CRIMES.

SO I DIDN'T SEE TOO MUCH OF THE LIVESTOCK OR CATTLE CARESS PASSING.

-DID TRESPASSING.

PROBLEM MOSTLY EAST SIDE PARTICULAR FARMS ARE BEING TARGETED AND AGRICULTURE WAS BEING STOLEN.

IT SEEMED LIKE JUST LIKE HANDFUL INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE COMMITTING THESE CRIMES.

AND THE CHALLENGE WAS TO TRY TO IDENTIFY HOW TO GET THE BEST EVIDENCE OUT OF THESE CASES.

BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BEEN STATED LIKE THE RESOURCES AREN'T AS PLENTIFUL.

SO IF YOU STEAL FROM TARGET, YOU HAVE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS.

DEDICATED THE LOSS PREVENTION AGENTS.

THIS BILL TO PROVIDE MORE REARRERESOURCE WOULD HELP WITH DIALOGUE BETWEEN I GUESS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PROSECUTOR TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A BEST EVIDENCE THAT WE CAN.

OTHER THINGS WE TRY TO DO, AS A DETERRENT FOR I GUESS AG SPECIFIC AG THEFT, ACTUALLY GOT SOME MUG SHOTS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE EITHER CONVICTED ARRESTED FOR AG THEFT.

TRY TO IDENTIFY THESE INDIVIDUALS.

ACTUALLY WENT TO THE FARMER'S MARKET, SOME OF OUR VERGTS FROM THE OFFICE, INVESTIGATORS WENT TO THE FARMER'S MARKET HAND THEM OUT TRYING TO LET THEM KNOW LIKE THESE INDIVIDUALS HERE IF YOU SEE THEM AROUND, BE WARY OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL.

AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MERCHANTS ALSO BO MAY HAVE BEEN MORE WILLING TO BUY FROM THESE INDIVIDUALS, LIKE WHETHER OR NOT THEY KNOW THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE SUSPECTS, WE CAN'T REALLY SAY.

BUT THAT IS ANOTHER LMENTD TO EO THIS.

PEOPLE WHO ARE STEALING AGRICULTURE SOMETIMES THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLINGLY BUYING FROM THEM.

>>Lauren: IS THAT BECAUSE SELL IT FOR CHEAP.

>> IF YOU CUT OUT OF THE MARKET, NOW THERE'S IN THE A LOT OF VALUE CRIMINAL STEALING.

CAN'T SELL IT ANYWHERE.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

DEPARTMENT PULL ANY MONEY FROM THE PRODUCTION OF PRODUCT YOU.

THEY SELL STOLE IT TO SELL IT.

UNDER CUT LEGITIMATE FARMER AND SO IF WE ELIMINATE A LOT OF THOSE MARKETS, AND THERE ARE LAWS ON THE BOOK, THERE ARE DOCUMENTATION THAT IS REQUIRED, AND POLICE CAN CHECK THAT, BUT AGAIN, HAVING A DEDICATED POLICE FORCE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEY MAY START BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.

YOU ELIMINATE THESE MARKETS THAT THE CRIMINALS ARE SELLING TO, WHAT'S THE VALUE?

NOT GOING TO STEAL A WHOLE BUNCH OF CROPS FOR YOUR OWN CONSUMPTION.

STEALING IT TO SELL IT.

PRODUCE.

STEALING OUR PLANTS.

STEALING EQUIPMENT.

SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST THEFT OF CROPS.

NOT JUST POACHING OR CARESS TRESPASSING.

VANDALISM.

MAYBE THEY KNOW WHOSE STEALING.

CAN IDENTIFY FEW FOLKS.

BECAUSE THERE'S NO REAL PENALTY, AND NO REAL PUNISHMENT, WHEN THOSE CRIMINALS TURNED IN BY THE FARMER NOTHING HAPPENS COME BACK, NOW IT'S RETRIBUTION.

INSTEAD STEALING MAY BURN DOWN A TRACTOR.

DAMAGE PROPERTIES.

PAPAYAS TREES CUT DOWN.

HAPPENS ON OUR ISLAND.

SOMEBODY GETS MAD.

>> DECADE AGO, HAD A BUNCH OF PAPAYA TREES, MALICIOUS A CUT DOWN.

NOT ONLY LOSS OF THAT PARTICULAR CROP.

IT'S LIFETIME OF THAT TREE.

SO SOME LAWS HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THAT.

BECAUSE AGAIN, FARMER RANCHER PUT ALL OF THEIR MONEY INTO PRODUCING THAT CROP.

READY FOR THE HARVEST.

HOPEFULLY WHAT THAT HARVEST COMES WITH SELL THAT CROP OR THAT LIVESTOCK, THEY'LL MAKE THEIR MONEY BACK AND MAKE A A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.

WITH HAD THESE AG CRIMES, STOLEN IT'S GONE.

THEY'RE IN THE HOLE.

THEY'RE IN THE NEGATIVE.

GOT TO START ALL OVER AGAIN.

GOT TO GET FUNDING.

I MEAN IF THIS KEEPS HAPPENING, WHETHER THE TARIFFS COST OF ENERGY AND FUEL, LAND COSTS WATER COSTS, ALL OF THESE THINGS, FARMER HAS TO DEAL WITH, ON A DAILY BASIS, YOU ADD IN WELL UNREPORTED $14.4 MILLION IMPACT TO HAWAII FARMERS AN RAN CHORES.

FARMERS AND RANCHERS ARE RESILIENT, AT SOME POINT NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY SENSE COSTS EVERYBODY TRANSLATES TO HIGHER COSTS GOING FORWARD AND WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO BE FOOD SELF-RELIANT.

FOOD SECURE.

IMPORT 90% OF WHAT WE EAT.

IN ORDER TO GET THERE, ACTUALLY HAVE TO SUPPORT AGRICULTURE.

THAT COMES WITH POLICY.

AND THEN ENFORCEMENT OF THE POLICY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>>Lauren: JEFF, TODAY, IF SOMEONE CAUGHT, WHAT WOULD THE PENALTY BE?

>> IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT IS TAKEN AN HOW MUCH IS TAKEN.

SO WE CAN DEAL WHICH MEAN, JUST TO SPEAK GENERALLY, LIKE IF IT'S BEYOND THE CERTAIN AMOUNT, COULD BE LIKE A FELONY.

C CLASS FELONY.

THAT'S YOU CAN GO TO PRISON FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS FOR THAT.

IF YEAR PLACED ON PROBATION, FOFOUR YEARS.

CAN RANGE ANYTHING FROM, THIS IS WHERE I THINK THE FRUSTRATION COMES IN.

RANGE ANYTHING FROM, ASK FOR JAIL.

BUT IT'S FROM 0 TO ONE YEAR FOR C CLASS FELONY.

SO THIS IS I THINK A LOT OF FRUSTRATION COMES FROM THE FARMERS.

IS THAT LIKE IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

JAIL ISN'T ENOUGH TO CAUSE DETERRENT.

AND SO WHEN THEY SAY HEARING FROM SENATOR RICHARDS, PENALTIES NEED TO BE TOUGHER, PENALTIES ARE THERE.

BUT THE RANGE THAT WE CAN OR THAT WE SOMETIMES SENTENCE SOMEBODY TO, IS DIFFERENT.

IT'S BECOMES CHALLENGE IN A WAY AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION BECAUSE IT'S ALL LEARNING, ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF THE FARMER HE IS AND RAN CHORES.

SO IT'S -- RANCHERS AS OUR ABS AS PROSECUTORS CONVINCE JUSTIN BECAUSE THEY HAND DOWN SENTENCES SOMETIMES THERE IS ATTITUDE.

CONVINCE JUDGES) PROPERTY CRIME AS OPPOSED TO CRIME AGAINST A PERSON.

>> WHY DUKE'S LAW, WE TAKE THAT LATITUDE OUT, MANDATE.

DON'T HAVE LATITUDE.

NOT FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE.

NOBODY WANTS TO PUN ASIA KID.

HABITUAL CRIMES.

PPUNISH A KID.

>> SOMEBODY TAKEN INTO CUSTODY.

ARRESTED COME BEFORE THE COURT.

ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS, THIS IS PROPERTY CRIME.

SO WE MAY HE THIS MAY, COURT MAY LET HIM OUT AT THAT TIME.

AS OPPOSED TO A CRIME AGAINST A PERSON.

>>Lauren: SINCE WE.

>>Councilmember Weyer: TALKING ABOUT DINNER- >>Lauren: WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DUKE'S LAW, CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT CRANSTON'S DEATH, WILL YOU HOWE THAT PERSONALLY IMPACTED YOU AND WHY YOU UNTROUNINTRODUCED THIS LEGISLAT?

>> HAPPENED ABOUT 14 MONTHS.

CRANSTON DUKE PI.

A KILLED.

EXECUTE THE.

IT HAPPENED WAS HE WAS OUT ON HIS RANCH AND THERE WAS A DOG CAME OUT OF THE BUSHES.

HE FIRED, FIRST YELLED.

CALLING TO SEE IS IF SOMEONE WAS THERE.

FIRED HIS RIFLE.

TO SKAT SCARE THE DOG OFF.

OWNER CAME OUT AND KILLED HIM.

HIS MOTHER WAS THERE.

AND IT WAS THREE OR FOUR DAYS AFTER THIS HAPPENED.

MUTUAL FRIENDS OF HIS MOTHER AND ME LONG TIME FAMILY, I GREW UP WITH, CONTACT ME AND SAID, WILL YOU MEET WITH HER?

SO SHE CAME TO MY OFFICE.

AND I TELL YOU, ONE OF THE HARDEST MEETINGS I HAD TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE WHAT DO YOU SAY TO A MOTHER?

SHE WAS RESOLVED.

POINT IN, SHE SAID, PLEASE DON'T LET MY SON'S DEATH BE FOR NOTHING.

AND I GAVE HER MY WORD I WAS GOING TO LET IT GO.

AND SO THAT STARTED THE BALL ROLLING.

AND WE STARTED IDENTIFYING WHAT THE ISSUES WERE.

JEFF TALKING ABOUT.

WE TRESPASS, THEFT, WE HAVE VANDALISM, WE HAVE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF HOW DO WE START CHIPPING AWAY AT IT?

WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE WORKED ON THIS ALL LAST INTERIM STARTING EARLY SUMMER.

I HAD THREE VERSIONS OF THE BILL.

ONE FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OFFICE.

WHERE THEY REALLY RAMPED UP THE PENALTIES.

ONE FROM DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE WHERE WE LOOKED AT ENFORCEMENT COMING THROUGH THE REGULATORY SIDE AND THEN WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT HOW CREATING THIS TASK FORCE, NOT TASK FORCE, BUT PROGRAM WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT OF AGRICULTURAL CRIMES.

THIS IS MORPHED OVER THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SESSION.

AND IT HAPPENED WHAT I WAS HOPING WOULD, WE BROUGHT IT TOGETHER SO WE HAD EVERYTHING PUT IN THERE.

THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE.

AS WELL AS INCREASING PENALTIES.

BETWEEN ALL OF THAT, THAT CAME FORTH AND IT WAS NAMED CONGRESSMAN SON DUKE PIA LAW TO HONOR HIM BUT ALSO BRING IT HOME.

CRANSTON.

ABOUT PERSON AND LIE LIVELIHOODS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS IS PERSONAL.

>>Lauren: WHERE DOES IT STAND RIGHT NOW?

>> IT HAS CLEAR THE BOTH CHAMBERS,.

THERE IS A FUNDING ASPECT OF IT.

VERY APPRECIATIVE WHAT WAYS AN MEANS CHAIR DONOVAN DELA CRUZ ABLE TO GET DONE.

WAITING TWO UP TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK FOR SIGNATURE.

>>Lauren: HOW DOES THE FARMING COMMUNITY FEEL ABOUT DUKE'S LAW?

THINK IT WILL HELP.

>> WE DO.

AS SENATOR SAID, PUT A LOT OF WORK IN IT.

I WANT TO THANK ALL OF HIS COLLEAGUES AT THE LEGISLATURE ON THE HOUSE SIDE.

REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTIAN FROM HAWAII ISLAND.

CHAIR HOUSE AG COMMITTEE WORKED WELL WITH FINANCE COMMIT EDEN AND HER COLLEAGUES.

SENATOR GABBARD CHAIR HOUSE AGRICULTURE COMMITTEE.

SENATOR RICHARDS, CHAIR KA LOT.

A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING.

SEVERAL COMPONENTS.

KALO INCREASE S SOME OF THE PENALTIES ADVENTURES I THINK FUNDING FOR OFFERS FUNING FOR MITIGATION OF FUNDING AND RANCHERS CREATES LAW ENFORCEMENT DIVISION FOR AGRICULTURE ESSENTIALLY DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WARM BODIES ASSISTANT CHIEF, SOME INVESTIGATORS, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, BOOTS ON GROUND, AND SO IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM IN TWO COUNTIES.

HAWAII COUNTY AND HONOLULU.

AGAIN, THESE OFFICERS WILL BE DEDICATED TO FARMERS AN RANCHERS.

UNDERSTAND FARMING AND RANCHING.

LAWS ON THE BOOKS.

HRS.

UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY HAVE A BETTER IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON BETTER DETER AND SOLVE CRIMES IF NEED BE.

HAVE DEDICATED LAW ENFORCEMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT IS GOING TO INVESTIGATE AGRICULTURE CRIMES.

AND WE EXPECT TO SEE REDUCTION.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR ON AG AND FARMING POLICE DEPARTMENT.

>> THIS BILL YOU GUYS EXPERTS BUT WHAT I READ IN IT IS THAT ANYTHING THAT CONTRIBUTES TO CRIME, GUNS CAN BE TAKEN.

>> FORFEITURES.

>> NOW YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DETERRENT.

MY GRANDFATHER'S GUN.

>>Lauren: DO YOU FEEL HOPEFUL THAT YOUR STRESS WILL GO DOWN ONCE THIS BECOMES LAW?

>> WELL, WHEN YOU START TO MAKE IT PERSONAL, BACK TO THEM, YOU BET IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN.

YEAH.

WHICH JUST WORK REALLY WELL WITH DOCARE AND DOCARE OFFICER CAME OUT.

DID A SURPRISE VISIT AND TOOK BUNCH OF GUNS.

>> CIVIL PENALTIES.

HAVE TO GO COURT.

JEFF'S DEAL.

BUT WITH THIS LAW, THEY CAN ACTUALLY LOSE THEM.

>> SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE IN HERE.

THAT GOING TO HELP.

AGAIN, NOT JUST GUNS USE A VEHICLE.

ON THE PROPERTY.

USING A GUN.

THOSE THINGS WILL BE TAKEN.

>> YOU COULD LOSE THOSE.

WASN'T D DETER ANSWERS.

NEED TO HELP THE FARMER AND RANCHER.

DEPARTMENT OF AGENT CIVIL PENALTIES.

HAHABITUAL CRIME CLASS C PENALTY.

A WHOLE BUNCH AS SENATOR RICHARDS SAID THREE DIFFERENT BILLS WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE.

COLLEAGUES WORKING WITH HIS COLLEAGUES ON THE HOUSE SIDE.

REP KAL.

CAME UP WITH THIS I WILL B END OF THE SESSION HE-END OF THE SESSION OR CONFERENCE, WAYS AND MEANS SENATOR DELA CRUZ AND REPRESENTATIVE YAMASHITA FOUND ADDITIONAL MONEY TO FUND THOSE BOOTS ON GROUND WHICH ARE REALLY GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

>>Lauren: DO YOU THINK THIS WILL MAKE YOUR JOB EASIER.

>> I THINK SO.

DEDICATED LAW ENFORCEMENT, OR RESOURCES FOR THAT, LIKE I DID THE TARGET LIKE COMPARISON, SO TARGET, THERE'S LIKE PEOPLE DEDICATED THE TO CRIME PREVENTION, THIS WOULD HELP WITH THE COMMUNICATION AND LIKE WE CAN DIRECTLY TELL THEM, WHAT WE NEED AN WHAT THEY'RE USED TO.

WHAT THESE LOSS PREVENTION AGENTS, TARGET OR SOME SORT OF RETAIL ESTABLISH MANY.

THEY SLAY FORM.

USED TO AND-THEY HAVE A FORM THEY'RE USED TO AN KNOW WHICH BOXES TO CHECK OUT.

WHAT TO WRITE AND JUST THE BARE BONES THINGS THAT THEY NEED.

TO HAVE IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE A SUCCESSFUL PROSECUTION.

THINGS LIKE CONTINUOUS OBSERVATION THROUGH THE AISLES, AND DIDN'T HAVE PERMISSION PAST C CASH REGISTER WITHOUT PAYING.

SEEMS LIKE LITTLE THINGS.

REALLY HELPS THE CASE.

>>Lauren: LET'S GET TO SOME OF OUR VIEWER QUESTIONS GOT THAT COMING IN.

THIS FIRST CALLER WANTS US TO KIND OF GO BACK TO THE BASICS.

ASKING US IF WE CAN BETTER EXPLAIN WHAT THESE AG CRIMES ARE SO MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN ALL WEIGH IN.

CAN YOU GIVE US SOME CONTEXT WHO ARE DOING THESE, WHO IS DOING THESE CRIMES, WHY THEY DOING IT?

AND MAYBE SOME OTHER EXAMPLES OF THE TYPES OF CRIMES.

WE TALKED ABOUT HITTING CATTLE OUT AND STEALING FRUIT AND OTHER THINGS.

MAYBE GET SOME CONTEXT.

>> START WITH AG CRIMES.

WE TALK ABOUT THEFT.

PEOPLE THINK THEFT OF PRODUCE.

THEFT OF TALK ABOUT MANGOS.

BANANAS.

ANY CROPS AND A LOT OF TIMES FOR THEM TO SELL.

THERE'S SELLING CROPS.

SELLING WHATEVER THEY STEALING.

EQUIPMENT.

YOU HEARD SENATOR AND LANI TALK ABOUT TRESPASSING.

FOR HUNTING FOR POACHING.

TRESPASSING SOMETIMES JUST TRESPASSING GO TO AS I SAY, TRAIL OR WATERFALL OR SOMETHING AND WHILE DOING THAT, THEY MAY BE SPOOKING ANIMALS OR THEY MAY BE GOING THROUGH SOMEBODY'S FARM AND STEALING SOME CROP.

WELL, STEAL A BANANA.

WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE DOING THAT.

BECOMES I BIG DEAL.

DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT FARMERS.

NURSERY FOLKS HIGH PRICED ITEMS.

PLANTS.

SO THEY GET TARGET.

COME AT NIGHT.

AND AGAIN, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

TARGET THEM.

KIND OF PUT THEM BY THE BORDER OF THE PROPERTY.

JUMP OVER.

AND WAIT.

IT'S CLEAR AND COME BACK AND STEAL IT.

SO NOW, IT'S PRETTY QUICK CRIME.

KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

VANDALISM.

HEARD US TALK ABOUT HOW SOME OF RETRIBUTION.

SOME IS JUST BAD PEOPLE DOING BAD THINGS.

SO AG CRIMES RUNS GAMUT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT'S JUST THEFT.

A LOT MORE THAN THEFT.

TRESPASSING.

VANDALISM.

NOT JUST CROPS.

THEFT OF EQUIPMENT, THEFT OF SUPPLIES.

COULD BE SOMEBODY WANTS A GENERATOR.

AND COME IN AND STEAL GENERAL SL GENERATOR AND WE NEVER FIND THEM.

A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS AG CRIME.

USED TO CALL IT AG THEFT.

CALL IT AG CRIME NOW.

>>Lauren: HOW OFTEN IS IT HAPPENING ON YOUR RANCH.

>> EVERY DAY.

>>Lauren: EVERY DAY?

>> YEAH.

THERE'S DEFINITELY WEEKENDS ARE HIGHER.

MOONLIGHT NIGHTS ARE HIGHER.

BUT YEAH.

ALL THE TIME.

>>Lauren: I CAN'T IMAGINE AS RANCHER UP EARLY FOR BEFORE THE SUN COMES UP GUESSING TAKING WILD GUESS WORK YOUR WHOLE DAY AND STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH AFTER EFFECTS OF THIS.

>> YEAH.

OF COURSE,, YOU CAN'T BE THERE EVERY NIGHT.

AND WHERE WE HAVE HIGH EXPOSURE, GETTING READY TO SHIP CATTLE AND THAT'S THIRD OR FOURTH OF THE YEAR'S INCOME.

WE'RE OUT ALL THE TIME.

BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BE OUT EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

CAN'T.

>>Lauren: JOE, FROM OAHU ASKING, IF YOU INSTALL CAMERAS, CAN THEY GET A TAX WRITE OFF AND IF THEY CATCH THE PEPPER ON CAMERA, CAN THEY USE IT IN THE CORES TO PROSECUTE THEM?

IN THE COURTS TO PROS COUNT THEM?

>> PROSECUTE.

>> CAMERA WOULD GET SHOT IMMEDIATELY ON OR PROPERTY.

>> HOW MANY CAMERAS?

SOME HAVE HOW BIG IS YOUR RANCH?

34,000 ACRES.

>>Lauren: AS A PROSECUTOR, I WOULD SAY YES CAM RASMUSSEN RRAYS WOULDHELP.

PRACTICALLY SPEAKING DOESN'T SFEASIBLE.

>> REALLY HARD WITH THE KIND OF CAMERAS YOU CAN BUY, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S EASY BUT IT'S NOT.

RANGE OF MOTION AND EVERY SECOND AND I'VE GIVEN UP.

>>Lauren: HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN SOMEONE IS ON YOUR PROPERTY.

>> AND THOSE HUNTERS ARE THERE?

>> MY DOGS TELL ME.

IN THE MORNING, MY DOGS DON'T LIE.

I CAN TELL EXACTLY WHERE THEY WENT.

IF YOU SEE FOOTPRINT, FINE.

BUT MY DOGS WILL TELL ME EXACTLY WHERE PEOPLE WENT.

>>Lauren: ERIC ON YOUTUBE, COMMENTING.

PERHAPS SOMEONE CAN WEIGH CAMERASCOOPERATION WITH LOCAL PD ESSENTIAL REDUCE AG CRIME HAMAKUA COAST.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH GAME CAMERAS?

>> YEAH.

THESE THINGS THAT HELP.

HEIGHTENING AWARENESS MUCH SEEN GAME CAMERAS.

MOTION DETECTED I THINK IS HOW AT THE OPERATE.

AGAIN, HAVING SOME PROOF, HAVING SOME WAY OF BEING ABLE TO DOCUMENT WHAT IS GOING ON.

THAT HELPS.

GETTING W WARM BODIES WHAT'S GOING TO HELP.

NOT JUST HAVING BODIES THESE PEOPLE, OFFICERS, WILL BE CONNECTED TO THE AGRICULTURE COMMUNITY.

THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW THE FARMERS AND RANCHERS SO THE IDEA THERE IS TO DEVELOP THOSE RELATIONSHIPS SO THEN THEY, THOSE INVESTIGATORS, THOSE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, WILL THEN START TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF POTENTIAL PERPETRATORS.

SO PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER, NOT ONE THING IS GOING TO WORK.

HAVE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS.

>> COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

CAMERAS WILL HELP.

NOT SAYING IT DIDN'T.

2019 NUMBERS OF $14.4 MILLION, $11.2 MILLION FOR SECURITY.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

AGAIN, FARMS AND RANCHERS RAISE WITHIN MARGINS.

ANOTHER EXPENSE THAT CAN MAKE THEM UNPROFITABLE.

SO CAMERAS CAN HELP.

AND BEAUTY WITH DUKE'S LAW IS AS WE BELIEVE THERE IS SOME FUNDING, THAT CAN HELP FARMERS AND RANCHERS MAYBE PURCHASE SOME OF THOSE.

DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT RUNNING A PILOT PROGRAM WITH SOME DRONES WITH CAMERAS.

AGAIN, MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DUKE'S LAW SETS STAGE FOR, AND IT WAS UNFORTUNATE.

UNFORTUNATE UNNECESSARY DEATH.

AND IF THIS IS THE LEGACY, STILL YOU CA CAN'T REPLACE DUKES LIFE AT LEAST IT BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT JUST GROWING THREAT.

HOW BAD AG CRIMES IS.

THAT'S THE WORST OF IT.

SO WE'RE SO APPRECIATIVE TO THE LEGISLATURE.

THIS IS JUST A START.

ORIGINAL BILL THAT SENATOR RICHRD AS INTRODUCED ASKED FOR 45 WARM BODIES DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

LIKE TO SO IT AT THAT LEVEL AT SOME POINT.

HAVING START A PILOT SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME DATA.

WE CAN HOPEFULLY SEE SOME REDUCTION AND SUPPORT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SUPPORT PROSECUTORS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT TO REDUCE AND JUST AWARENESS AS LANI SAYS.

SENATOR SAYS.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO GUY LONG WAY.

>>Lauren: -- GO A LONG WAY.

>>Lauren: HAVE A DISCUSSION FOR A FULL HOUR.

CHRISTY TO EVER FROM WAIMANALO COMMENT.

READ THE COMMENT AND THEN PERHAPS IF ONE OF YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN.

ADD SOMETHING TO WHAT CHRISTOPHER IS SAYING HE SAID, I GREW UP FARMER'S KID.

WHICH USED TO RACES PIGS AND FLOWERS.

PEOPLE WOULD STEAL THEM ALL TIME.

NEVER REPORT ITER AFRAID OF REPERCUSSIONS FROM THE CHIEFS WE NEED AGRICULTURE FOREST THAT USES DRONES TO PROTECT FROM POACHERS AND THIEVES PERSONALLY KNOW PEOPLE WHO POACH CATTLE AND PIGS.

IT IS TERRIBLE.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO HELP OUR FARMS.

FARMERS.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

DUKE'S LAW BREAKS THAT INERTIA.

STARTS IT.

>> AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE SESSION WITH THREE BILLS, AGAIN, UNFORTUNATE DEATH, BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, NOT JUST RANCHERS OR FARMERSER CASTLCATCAT CATTLE MEN'S.

O.

ATTORNEY GENERAL OFFICERS.

UNFORTUNATE THEY HAVE TO COME, THERE EVERY SINGLE HEARING THEY HAVE EVERYBODY COME TOGETHER WORKING WITH LEGISLATURE WORKING WITH SENATOR RICHARDS WITH HIS LEADERSHIP, SENATOR GABBARD OTHER SIDE REPRESENT KOLOA, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE SO THAT COMMENT POINTS TO WHAT THIS BILL HOPEFULLY WILL ACCOMPLISH OR PROVIDE.

INCREASE AND ENHANCED PENALTIES.

FORFEITURE.

SOME CIVIL FINES.

AWARENESS, THE WARM BODIES, WHEN I FIRST STARTED FARM BUREAU 20 YEARS AGO,, HEARD STORIES SOME OF WINDWARD, BANANA FARMERS.

THAT WOULD KIND OF PLANT ALONG THE BORDER OF THEIR PROPERTY.

KNOWING THAT THOSE BANANA AN AS ARE GOING TO BE STOLEN.

THAT WAS LIKE THEY KIND OF KNEW THAT THOSE WERE GOING TO BE STOLEN.

ONCE ON THE INSIDE IS THEIR FARM.

FOR THEIR FARM.

THAT IS UNFORTUNATE.

NO ONE SHOULD EVER HAVE TO DO THAT.

OR EVEN PLANT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.

SO WE BELIEVE DUKE'S LAW WILL HELP.

SOLVE EVERYTHING?

IT WON'T.

BUT IT'S REALLY GOOD START TO ADDRESS THIS GROWING PROBLEM THAT FARMERS AN RANCHERS ARE DEALING WITH EVERY DAY AS LANI SAID.

>> THING IS THAT THEY IGNITE VERY QUICKLY.

AT NIGHT, THEY GOT GUNS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT WITHOUT ONE.

AND THINGS ESCALATE VERY QUICKL.

>> VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

AND SO I AM VERY HAPPY THAT THIS LAW IS PASSED.

IT'S THE START.

START.

AND IT'S TO BRING SOME AWARENESS TO THE COMMUNITY AND CHRIS FROM WAIMANALO?

>>Lauren: YES.

>> AMEN.

RIGHT ON.

>> ADDRESS ALL THE CHALLENGES AND AGAIN, TO HAVE NEW DIRECTOR OF LAW ENFORCEMENT COME IN, AND REALLY EMBRACE AG CRIMES, AND REALLY WANTED HELP FARMERS AND R RANCHERS COULDN'T ASK FOR BETTER DIRECTOR.

SENATOR TALKED TO HIM READY TO GO.

IT WAS THEIR IDEA TO DO THE DRONES.

AND TO DO SOME, LOOKING TO WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONING ARE DOING.

ALSO HAVE FOR THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN, CRIMES TIP LINE.

GET A WARM BODY.

SOMEONE WILL ANSWER IT.

>> AG CRIMES TIP LINE.

WE'VE SEEN IT SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

BECAUSE OF UNFORTUNATE DEATH.

A LOT OF ACTIVITY TO HOPEFULLY ADDRESS AGRICULTURE CRIMES HERE IN HAWAII.

>> L LANI HELPED MAKE THIS A NATIONAL DEAL.

WORKING ON THIS, INLY, PART OF THIS -- INITIALLY PART OF THIS STAND YOUR GROUND LAW.

THAT IS BEEN PUT ON SIDE GETTING RULING FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

BUT THE AGRICULTURE CRIME PORTION OF THIS LANI INTRO DUETTED A RESOLUTION INTRODUCED RESOLUTION TO NATIONAL CATTLE MONEY'S BEEF ASSOCIATION IN SAN ANTONIO IN FEBRUARY.

ACCEPTED.

AT COMMITTEE.

GOING TO THE FULL MEMBERSHIP.

>> IN JULY.

>> AND PRESIDENT OF NATIONAL CATTLE MEN'S, MARK ISEL, HAS BEEN USING CRANSTON AND CRANSTON LAW AS A TALKING POINT AS HE GOES ACROSS THE NATION TALKING ABOUT AG CRIMES.

AND LANI SAID INTR INTRODUCED TS RESOLUTION.

AWARENESS AND GETTING THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND AND THEN SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE LEGALLY.

>>Lauren: YOU MENTIONED TIP LINE.

WHAT CAN PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, NOT A FARMER NOT A RANCHER.

WHAT CAN WE DO, THINGS THAT WE CAN BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR PURCHASING A PLANT OR FRUITS AND VEGETABLING FARMER'S MARKET.

ANYTHING PUBLIC CAN DO TO HELP?

>> SURE IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT, YOU HAVE A TIP LINE.

CALL IT IN.

I AM FROM NORTH HAWAII.

IN WAIMEA, WE HAVE STRAWBERRY GROWER LOUI RINCON KNOWN FOR STRAWBERRIES.

I WAS DRIVING BY SAW SOMEBODY PICKING STRAWBERRIES IN HIS FIELD.

ON A SUNDAY.

I DI DIDN'T RECOGNIZE HIM.

I STOPPED AND ASK HIM.

YEAH, I HAVE PERMISSION.

I SAID, I'M GOING TO CALL HIMJIMINEZ CALLED LOUI.

HE GOT OUT OF THERE AS QUICK AS HE CAN.

>> SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.

ASK WHEN YOU'RE FARMER'S MARKET ASK WHERE THIS PRODUCT CAME FROM.

TRY U CHINATOWN.

OLD SIDE STAND MANY.

ASK QUESTIONS ABSOLUTELY WANT PEOPLE TO BUY LOCAL SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL FARMER AND RANCHER.

ASK.

>>Lauren: ANSWERS TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR SO I WOULD KNOW IF THAT IS SUSPICIOUS?

>> GREAT QUESTION.

YEAH.

I THINK PROBABLY THERE'S A MILLION ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION.

DEPENDING IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BANANAS OR CATTLE O OR PIGS OR EGGS.

PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

BUT I THINK FROM A CONSUMER'S PART, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT USUAL DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT.

>>Lauren: IS DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GROWN.

>> WHERE YOU DID GET ALL OF THESE FROM?

WHERE IS YOUR FARM.

A LOT OF TIME SAY THIS IS MY FARM.

MAY NOT BE YOU FARMER.

MAY BE THIRD-PARTY SELLER WHERE IS YOUR FARM AT?

HARD TO TRACK DOWN WHERE THOSE PRODUCTS CAME FROM.

AGAIN.

>> IF THERE'S A QR OR BAR CODE, JUST TAKE THAT OFF.

EVEN THE BOXES WE KIND OF EVERYBODY USES SAME BOX.

IT'S REALLY HARD TO IDENTIFY.

SO YOU DO HAVE TO, ASK PUBLIC TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS.

TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE BUYING ONE BUYING LOCAL.

MAKE SURE IT'S L LOCAL SUPPORT LOCAL FARMERS AN R RANCHERS.

GET TO KNOW THE FARMER WHERE THE PRODUCT IS FROM.

CAN GO A LONG WAY.

SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.

TIP LINE.

CALL IT IN.

DEDICATED LAW ENFORCEMENT BRANCH FOR OUT AND INVESTIGATE SOME OF THESE.

THERE ARE LAW ON THE BOOKS ON OWNERSHIP AND MOVEMENT.

SO HOPEFULLY, WITH THIS NEW LAW ENFORCEMENT BRANCH, HAVE PEOPLE THAT NOW WHEN YOU CALL THE TIP LINE, SOMEBODY WILL ANSWER.

SOMEBODY WILL INVESTIGATE.

EVEN IF YOU ARE A LITTLE BIT SUSPICIOUS.

NOT SAYING EVERYBODY IS DOING EVERYTHING WRONG.

DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT, A CALL THE TIP LINE.

>>Lauren: DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBER.

>> 808-427-3323.

>>Lauren: WHO IS RUNNING THE TIP LINE?

>> STP DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTUR.

>>Lauren: I'M ALSO CURIOUS IF MAYBE EVEN IF YOU THINK LIKE SOMETHING WAS BEING SOLD FOR TOO CHEAP, COULD THAT COUNT AS SOMETHING MIGHT BE WORTHY OF GIVING A CALL?

>> IT COULD.

AGAIN, AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, STEALING IT, DIDN'T COST YOU AS FAR AS YOUR INPUT OR PRODUCTION.

COULD SELL IT FOR LESS THAN WHAT THE FARMER WOULD NORMALLY SELL IT FOR.

IF IT'S JUST EXTREMELY CHEAP, OR A A LOT OF IT ROADSIDE STAN, ASK SOME QUESTIONS.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS, DON'T WANT TO ACCUSE ANYONE.

GOT SOME REALLY HARD WORKING FARMERS.

WHO ARE SELLING.

AT THE FARMER'S MARKET WE RUN FARMER'S MARKET CHINATOWN.

WE ENCOURAGE ROADSIDE STANDS ABSOLUTELY.

NOT ACCUSING ANYBODY.

BUT IF IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT, SOCIAL DISTANCE SOME ASKD YOU'LL GET SOME ANSWER.

GETTING MORE SPECIFIC SOME CASES THAT HAVE COURTROOM ACROSS MY T&C COME ACROSS MY DESK.

SUSPICIOUS DEALING WITH FARMS MANNER WHICH IT WOULD BE TRANSPORT USUALLY BE LIKE MAYBE A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE.

SO IF THESE PEOPLE TRANSPORTING HONDA CIVIC OVERLOADED WITH AVOCADOS OR BBABANANAS SUSPICIOUS.

CALL A TIP LINE VETERANS DAY HAT CHECKED OUT.

GARBAGE BAG VERSUS A BOX.

THAT KIND STUFF.

>> ASK THOSE REQUESTS DEDICATED LAW ENFORCEMENT ASK KNOWS QUESTIONS DEDICATED LORMTD START COMING TO ASK QUESTIONS START BUILDING THAT I THINK BANANA P WE'LL START TOE IMPACT.

>>Lauren: LEGIT FARMER SHOULD NOT IN ALL CASES LIKELY HAVE THEIR FRUITS VEGETABLES, WHATEVER IT MAY BE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PACKED.

>> DIFFERENTLY.

ASK THEM BE VERY COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT.

>>Lauren: IT SHOULD BE PRIDEFUL I WOULD THINK.

>> EXACTLY.

>>Lauren: GOT A COUPLE OF VIEWER QUESTIONS.

THIS ONE IS FROM ERIC ON YOUTUBE.

ASKING HOW EFFECTIVE HAS THE PUBLIC MEDIA RELEASES BEEN IN DETERRING AG CRIME?

I FEEL IT IS EFFECTIVE IN BOTH P UB PUBLIC AWARENESS AND LETTIG PUBLIC MAS KNOW WHO THE HABITUAL OFFENDERS ARE.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S ONE STEM.

GOING TO HELP BUT THAT HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT.

HELP PROSECUTION THAT'S ONE STEP ANY ONE I WE HAVE TO HAVE MULTIFACETS.

WHAT YOU GUYS THINK U PUBLIC MADE IT MEDIA.

NOT SURE PUBLIC IMMEDIATE REALLY BEING DONE.

A LOT OF AG CRIMES HAPPENED, FARMERS DON'T HEAR ABOUT UNLESS THEY'RE BIG HIGH PROFILE CRIMES.

SO PUBLIC MEDIA, TALKING ABOUT AWARENESS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

IF THE GOVERNOR AND WE HOPE THE GOVERNOR WILL SIGN THIS BILL, SOME OUTREACH AND EDUCATION.

AND WORKING WITH THE COUNTY POLICE, COUNTY PROSECUTOR, ENTIRE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY, AND DOING SOME OUTREACH AND LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT THE NEW LAW IS, WHAT THE IMPACTS TO FARMERS.

SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THIS IS PUBLIC OUTREACH HERE.

SO AS FAR AS PUBLIC MEDIA.

NOT SURE.

NOT REALLY AWARE ANY OF DEDICATED PR PROGRAM.

WITH YOU THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY BAD IDEA.

MORE AWARENESS, WE THINK THE BETTER IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE FARMING COMMUNITY.

>>Lauren: ED IN MISS HAWAII ASKING, HOW DOES AQUACULTURE AROUND AQUAPONIC FIT IN THIS CONVERSATION IF AT ALL?

>> PART OF AG.

ABSOLUTELY.

>>Lauren: WOULD AG CRIMES TARGET THEM AS WELL?

>> OH, YEAH.

>>Lauren: IN A DIFFERENT WAY?

>> AGAIN, EVERYTHING IS SO COMMODITY SPECIFIC.

IF YOU STEAL CATTLE, VERSUS TOMATOES, VERSUS SOMETHING AQUACULTURE, IT'S ALL AGRICULTURE.

THE DETAILS ARE DIFFERENT.

BUT ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S PART OF AGRICULTURE.

>> IF THERE IS A MARKET, NEXT TO OUR OFFICE, KUNIA, YOU HAVE KUNIA COUNTRY FARMS, AQUAPONICS FARM THERE, TALAPIA THERE.

IF THERE'S A MARKET, WHY WOULDN'T SOMEBODY STEAL TALAPIA?

>>Lauren: YEAH.

ROMAN FROM HONOLULU, HAS A QUESTION.

I ACTUALLY THINK IT RELATES TO SOMETHING WE TALL BALK U TALKED ABOUTSHOULD GET APUNA.

YOU WERE TELLING ME YOU WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.

GOT BROUGHT UP RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THIS.

ROMAN SAYING, AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIFE, THESE CRIMINALS WERE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THE ROOT PROBLEM WHAT IS HAPPENING TO CAUSE PEOPLE TO STEAL OR FEEL ALIENATED FROM THEIR OWN SOCIETY.

I THINK YOU TOLD TOLED ME TOO, BEFORE WE WENT ON AIR, ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AND MORE SO, MAYBE EVEN MORE SO THAN IT IS TO HAVE ENFORCEMENT.

>> YEAH.

LANI WEIGH IN ON THIS TOO, BUT HOW DO WE LOSE THEM IN SOCIETY?

THE QUESTION WAS.

PART OF IS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

SOMETIMES THIS BECOMES GENERATIONAL.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.

WE ALSO HAVE HAVE SOCIETY HELP US.

IF THEY SEE SOMETHING, THAT'S UNUSUAL, NOT QUITE RIGHT, AND I MEAN, BIG QUESTION FOR HOW WE LOSE SOMEONE.

THERE'S OTHER THINGS GOING ON.

BECAUSE COST OF LIVING HERE IS HIGH.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

FUN PART IS USUALLY, ALMOST ANY FARMER OR RANCHER IF YOU'RE HUNGRY AND YOU ASK THEM, THEY'RE GOING TO FEED YOU.

THAT'S JUST WHAT WE DO.

AND SOMETIMES DETRIMENT OF THE FARMER AND RANCHER.

BUT THAT'S BIGGER QUESTION THAN WE CAN ANSWER HERE.

KIND OF BLENDS INTO OUR SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.

>>Lauren: I THINK THOUGH, RELATES TO THE ASPECT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

HOW EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY IS SO CRUCIAL TO, YOU WERE TELLING ME STORY WAS IT THE UNCLE.

>> WHO SPOKE TO, WAS IT THERE THEIR KID OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

COULD YOU RETELL THE STORY, YEAH.

HAPPENED ON BIG ISLAND.

TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE DRUNK U TRUCK AND TRAILER.

-- TRUCK AND TRAILER.

TRUCK AND TRAILER I THINK IT WAS ATV OR UTV.

EQUIPMENT.

WE TALKED ABOUT.

AGAIN, PART OF THE AG THEFT.

THEY FIGURED OUT WHO STOLE IT.

AND THEY WENT THERE.

GOT THEIR EQUIPMENT BACK.

AND THEN HAD A VERY FIRM I DON'T WANT TO SAY O, DISCUSSION, WITH THEM.

AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY RETHINKING WAY OF LIFE THAT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN AND WANTING TO GO DOWN.

THE POINT OF THAT IS IS THAT JUSTICE?

I THINK WE CAN ARGUE PROBABLY IS BECAUSE THEY GOT THEIR EQUIPMENT BACK.

PROBABLY HELPED OUT THESE GUYS GOING BETTER WAY IN LIFE.

WHAT WE ARE HOPING IS THAT BY PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER, WE CAN ALSO FACILITATE AND DOING THAT.

INCREASING CRIMES SO IT HURTS.

THEY TAKE IT IN THE POCKETBOOK AS WELL AS SPENDING LITTLE BIT OF TIME IN JAIL.

TO MAKE THEM CHANGE.

AGAIN, IDEA IS NOT JUST HIT THEM HARD, IT RAMPS UP AND RAMPS UP QUICKLY.

FOR PUN ERIN E'O ISSUE.

-- PUNISHMENT.

HOPEFULLY MAKING A SHIFT IN THAT.

>> I WANT TO CRIME IN.

WE FEEL STRONGLY DON'T HAVE A GOOD SOCIAL CONNECTION WITH YOUR COMMUNITY.

COULDN'T DEPEND ON LAW ENFORCEMENT.

TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF PRORE PROBLEMS WE WANT TO CHIME IN WE HAVE A SYSTEM PEOPLE CAN GET TO THE PUBLIC HUNTING AREAS, ABOVE THE RANCH.

IT'S ALL AUTOMATED TEXT MESSAGING AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE USE THAT.

AND W WHAT HAPPENS IS PEOPLE THAT USE IT KIND OF BECOME LITTLE EYES AND EARS AND SO WHEN PEOPLE THAT ARE WANTING TO DO BAD THINGS TRY TO USE THE SAME ACCESS, BUT DEVIATE, THEY GET TOLD ON.

AND IT'S THE COMMUNITY POLICING THE COMMUNITY.

SO YOU GET THESE OUTLIERS THAT ONLY WAY THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT IS COME IN WHEN IT'S NIGHT TIME.

AND SO THEY KIND OF GET ALIENATE THE BY THE REST OF COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK THE WAY THAT WE'VE BEEN RUNNING PUBLIC ACCESS, I NEVER REALIZED HOW POWERFUL TO HAVE THE WHOLE COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE WATCHING AND CARING AND PRIVILEGED AND THERE'S NO RUBBISH.

NOBODY THROWS RUBBISH ON PUBLIC ACCESSES.

THEY CARE.

AND SO OUTLIERS THEY GET PUSHED BACK.

THAT WAS MY TWO CENTS.

>> STILL COMING ON TO THE RANCH, OUTLIERS?

SOME?

>> YEAH.

CRIME IS NOT UNIQUE TO FARMING AND RANCHING.

WHAT ARE THOSE UNDERLYING?

IT'S CRIME.

YEARS AGO, ACT FARM BUREAU INTRODUCED A, BILL DEALING WITH DRUNKS.

DRUNK CRIMES.

PEOPLE ASK WHY ARE YOU GUYS DOING THAT WE THINK SOME OF THE CRIMINALS ARE STEALING FROM US ARE USING TO PURCHASE DRUGS.

OR GETTING MONEY.

FOR WHATEVER REASON.

ONE OF THEM MAY BE DRUGS.

O DIDN'T PASS.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.

I REMEMBER EVEN FROM MYSELF.

>> I WASN'T SURE WHY.

I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE COMMIT CRIMES.

MULTIPLE REASONS.

BUT AGAIN, NOT UNIQUE TO HAWAII.

YES, FIRST TIME I HEARD STORY COMMUNITY KIND OF HAS LANI SAID, MAYBE POLICED THEMSELVES, DID SOME COMMUNITY JUSTICE.

UNCLE JUST JUSTICE.

>>Lauren: WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY TO THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING ON YOUR PROPERTY ILLEGALLY WITHOUT PERMISSION AND DOING BAD THINGS?

>> IF YOU COULD TALK TO THEM CIVIL CONVERSATION.

>> I TALK TO THEM ALL THE TIME I HAVE CATCH THEIR DOG, MEET MEET THEY POLICE STATION WHAT DO YOU.

>>Councilmember Say: TO -- WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM I'M GOING TO SUSPEND YOUR PASS.

DON'T DO THAT.

WELL, DON'T DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

IT'S AMAZING.

PEOPLE GROW UP.

AND IT'S KIND OF NEAT TO SEE SOME OF GUYS THAT USED TO GIVE YOU A LOT OF TROUBLE ARE JUST GOOD GUYS NOW.

THAT'S VERY REWARDING.

>>Lauren: DO YOU TELL THEM HOW IT'S IMPACTING YOU AND YOUR RANCH.

>> DON'T SEE THEM THAT MUCH.

THE FACT THAT THERE'S MORE INTEGRITY BETWEEN THE RANCH AND THEM, YEAH.

I THINK THEY KNOW.

>>Lauren: ONE MORE COMMENT FROM ONE OF OUR VIEWERS.

WE HAVE A SMALL FARM IN THE CAPTAIN COOK AREA.

JUST HAD SIX ULU TREES COMPLETELY STRIPPED AND BROAD DAYLIGHT.

THAT NIGHT, THIEVES CAME AND STOLE ALL OF OUR POWER TOOLS OUT OF OUR BARN.

IT ISN'T BIG FARM AND CAT THAT ARE ONLY BEING TARGETED.

AND CATTEDEL.

>> RE COVERED THAT.

COME AND STEAL EVERYTHING.

NOT JUST CROPS.

EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES, AND SO IT ISN'T.

MAJORITY OF HAWAII FARMS ARE SMALL FARMS.

SO THEY ARE THE TARGETS.

GOING BACK TO THE PREVIOUS QUESTION, HOPING THAT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEY CAN HAVE THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

NOT JUST WITH THE FARMERS RANCHERS.

WITH THOSE THAT ARE LOOKING TO STEAL.

TO DO SOME AG CRIMES.

WORKING WITH HOW SOME POLICE DEPARTMENTS DO.

NO CERTAIN AREAS.

THEY WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.

HAVE THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS.

AND MAY BE THAT MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE ALSO.

WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

KNOWING WHO IS THERE.

KNOWING WHO HAS POTENTIAL AND CREATING PROGRAMS THAT WILL PREVENT THEM FROM BECOMING THOSE THAT ARE IMPACTING FARMS AND RANCHERS.

>>Lauren: HOPEFULLY MORE OF THIS TIME-OFF DISCUSSION TO GET THE WORD OUT.

THIS TYPE OF DISCUSSION HEARING THESE STORIES HEARING COMMENTS FROM VIEWERS WRITING IN AND WHAT LAWN AND SENATOR RICHARDS HAS TO SAY PERSONAL IMPACT HOW THEY'VE BEEN IMPACTED BY AG CRIMES IS IT FRUSTRATING TO YOU?

>> YEAH.

FRUSTRATING IN THE SENSE THAT WHEN WE ASK FOR SENTENCE LIKE SOMETIMES DON'T GET WHAT WE WANT OR DON'T GET THE I GUESS SEVERITY AS SENATOR IS SAYING, SO WHEN WE CRAFT LOOK A PROPOSAL OR EMPLOYEE PLEA AGREET INPUT FROM THE VICTIM FROM THE RRANCHER OR FARMER AND SOMETIMES THERE'S IS LIKE PUSH BACK FROM THE DEFENSE OR FROM THE COURT TO MAYBE TRY TO LESS THAN THE AMOUNT.

AND I THINK PART OF IT IS NOT HAVING I GUESS ALL THE NOSERINGS.

SO LIKE I SAID ALL THE INFORMATION.

THIS IS HELPFUL TO GET.

THE SENSE OF THE IMPACT IT HAS ON THE FARMERS AND RANCHERS.

BECAUSE IT'S WHEN WE CONVEY THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE JUDGE, NEED TO BE ABLE TO BACK IT UP.

REALLY HELPFUL IF WE GET ENGAGEMENT FROM OF THE FARMS FAS AND RAN RANCHERS WRITING IMPACT STATEMENTS YOU HO IT IMPACT THEM WHEN WE MAKE THE SENTENCING ARGUMENT.

SO THE FRUSTRATING PART FOR THE PROSECUTORS IS THAT LIKE AT THE END OF THE DAY STILL BOTTOM LINE IS WE NEED THAT EVIDENCE.

AND SO LIKE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT HOW THIS BILL GETTING IMPLEMENTED AND WHAT KIND OF RESULTS THAT WE CAN HAVE FROM THAT.

GREAT TO HAVE LIKE THESE DEDICATED OFFICERS TO WORK WITH.

BECAUSE THAT WAY, THEY CAN IDENTIFY, THIS AREA HOT SPOT.

FOR LIKING A THEFT.

OR THAT PART IS, ANOTHER HOT SPOT FOR CATTLE RUSTLING.

>> INVESTIGATORS AND UNIFORM OFFICERS.

CASES COME UP NOW, WE HAVE THEM AS THEFT.

WE HAVE THEM AS CRIMINAL CCRIMINALTRESPASS.

SOMETIMES UNDERLYING REASON GETS LOST.

RESOURCES TRACK THAT BE GREAT ACTUALLY.

SO THEN WE CAN FOCUS IN ON THOSE PROBLEM AREAS.

>>Lauren: ONLY HAVE 2 MINUTES LEFT.

GOES BY FAST.

DO A PART 2.

REALLY QUICKLY HEAR FROM BRIAN AND SENATOR HERE.

CAN YOU REITERATE FOR OUR VIEWERS WHAT IS THE TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT AND IMPACT, WHY DO OUR SHOULD OUR COMMUNITY CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THIS PROBLEM?

>> DON'T WE CARE ABOUT OUR FARMERS AND RANCHERS.

DON'T WE WANT TO ACHIEVE AGRICULTURAL GOALS MORE FOOD SELF-SUFFICIENT ICU DOUBLING FOOD PRODUCTION.

FARM TO SCHOOL, FARM TO FOOD BANK.

INSTITUTIONAL PURCHASING?

WANT MORE LOCAL.

CAN'T FOCUS ON FARMING HAVE TO FOCUS ON AG CRIMES COSTING THEM.

MORE SO IT'S GOING TO RAISE COST OF FOOD.

I MEAN, $11.2 MILLION FOR SECURITY.

SO FARMER HAS TO DEDICATE TIME, I MEAN, GOING TO COURT, WORKING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, EVERYTHING THAT IS NEED TO GO GET A LOAN TO PURCHASE REPLACE SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT, NOT EVEN BREAKING EVEN ON THE CROP THAT THEY READY TO HARVEST BECAUSE IT WAS STOLEN.

MANGO TREES ARE STRIPPED OR ULU.

SO IT WILL RACES COST OF PRODUCTION.

RAISE COST OF PRODUCTION.

CAVESKIDS DON'T WANT TO STAY ATE FARM, LANI ABRUPT PA TIE A BROUA TREES.

>> FARMER NEVER RAINFALL FARMED.

STOPPED.

LOSE FARMING.

LOSE RANCHERS.

FARMING COMMUNITY SAY NO MORE.

AGRICULTURAL IS PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE TO GIVE IT THE CREDITS DUE AND STEWARDSHIP IT'S DUE.

IT'S ALL PART OF US.

AGRICULTURE IS VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE ECONOMY.

BUT WITHOUT IT, WE LITERALLY STARSTARVE I TO DEATH.

STEWARDS LAND, LOSE FARES AN RANCHERS NO LONG ON THE LAND WE HAVE URBAN DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE THERE ALSO.

NO FOOD.

AND A LOT OF BAD HAPPEN IF WE LOSE OUR FARMER AND RANCHERS MINI.

>>Lauren: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

MENTAL STRESS.

MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT LESSEN THAT STRESS.

MAHALO FOR JOINING US TONIGHT AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS...

SENATOR TIM RICHARDS AND BRIAN MIYAMOTO FROM THE HAWAII FARM BUREAU.

AND LANI CRAN PETRIE FROM THE HAWAII CATTLEMAN'S COUNCIL AND HAWAII COUNTY DEPUTY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY JEFF MALATE.

NEXT WEEK, THE 2025 LEGISLATIVE REVIEW, WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT MEASURES PASSED AND DIDN'T PASS THIS SESSION.

PLUS, THE ISSUES STILL LEFT UNRESOLVED AS CHANGES ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL CONTINUE TO HAVE AN IMPACT HERE IN THE ISLANDS.

PLEASE JOIN US THEN.

HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

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