THE YEAR HAS ALREADY STARTED OFF WITH A STRING OF DEVASTATING WEATHER EVENTS.

AND AS COMMUNITIES CONTINUE TO RECOVER, WE'RE ABOUT TO HIT ANOTHER CRITICAL STRETCH — THE START OF HURRICANE AND WILDFIRE SEASON.

THE RECENT STORM ACTIVITY HAS SHOWN US JUST HOW QUICKLY SITUATIONS CAN CHANGE AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO BE READY BEFORE DISASTER STRIKES, SO ARE YOU PREPARED?

TONIGHT'S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI'I START NOW.

♪ ♪ ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI'I.

I'M DARYL HUFF.

HURRICANE SEASON RUNS FROM JUNE 1 TO NOVEMBER 30 AND OVERLAPS WITH OUR WILDFIRE SEASON.

THIS YEAR, THERE'S A POTENTIALLY ELEVATED RISK FOR BOTH NATURAL DISASTERS.

WE'VE HAD ACCELERATED VEGETATION GROWTH FOLLOWING BACK-TO-BACK KONA LOWS IN MARCH THAT DUMPED MORE THAN TWO TRILLION GALLONS OF RAIN.

AS ALL THE GREENERY DRIES OUT, IT'S A TINDERBOX FOR WILDFIRES.

MEANWHILE, METEOROLOGISTS ARE FORECASTING WHAT'S CALLED A “GODZILLA” EL NINO THIS SUMMER.

THE SUPER EL NINO OCCURS WITH SIGNIFICANTLY WARMER SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES IN THE PACIFIC.

WHAT'S IT ALL MEAN FOR US AND HOW SHOULD WE PREPARE?

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW.

YOU CAN EMAIL OR CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS, AND YOU'LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAII YOUTUBE PAGE.

NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.

LEIGH ANNE EATON IS THE METEOROLOGIST IN CHARGE OF THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE'S PACIFIC REGION — REGIONAL OPERATIONS CENTER.

SHE STARTED HER CAREER WITH THE WEATHER SERVICE IN THE HONOLULU FORECAST OFFICE IN 2011.

RETIRED COLONEL JAMES BARROS IS THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE HAWAI'I EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.

THE STATE AGENCY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANNING, PREPARING FOR AND RESPONDING TO BOTH NATURAL AND HUMAN-CASE DISASTERS.

JASON SAMALA IS THE DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF WITH THE HONOLULU FIRE DEPARTMENT.

HE WAS SELECTED BY CHIEF SHELDON HAO AND WAS SWORN INTO OFFICE IN 2021.

MAJOR TOM STAMBAUGH HAS SERVED AS AN OFFICER WITH THE SALVATION ARMY FOR MORE THAN TWO DECADES.

HE'S CURRENTLY THE DIVISIONAL SECRETARY FOR BUSINESS FOR THE HAWAIIAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDS DIVISION.

AND KEITH ITO IS A BATTALION CHIEF WITH THE HONOLULU FIRE DEPARTMENT.

HE'S ALSO HFD'S WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE WORK GROUP MANGER.

HE WANTED ME TO RESCUES SAY MANAGER.

I SAID IT ALL.

JUST SAY START WITH LEIGH ANNE EATON FROM THE WEATHER SERVICE.

WHAT DO WE MEAN WITH GORILLA EL NINO?

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO WHAT WE'RE USED TO EXPERIENCING?

>> GORILLA JUST A MEDIA TERM I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY TECHNICAL TERM.

ACROSS THE BOARD.

SUPER-EL NINO 2 DEGREES WARMER THAN THE AVERAGE.

OR MARKING FOR EL NINO.

THEY WOULD CLASSIFY IT HALF DEGREES WARMER.

CELSIUS WE'RE TALKING.

AND THEN SUPER 2 DEGREES WARMER.

IN 2 DEGREES MAYBE DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT IN THE OCEAN QUITE A LOT OF WARMING THAT YOU SEE ACROSS THE BASIN.

>>Daryl: HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE WEATHER?

>> SO GOING TO AFFECT THE WEATHER A LOT.

SPECIFICALLY IN HAWAII, WHEN WE GO EL NINO PATTERN, WE WILL SEE INCREASE THREAT TO TROPICAL CYCLONE.

THEY LOVE WARM WATER.

ESPECIALLY IF THAT WARM WATER EXTENDS FURTHER ACROSS THE BASIN.

THAT BRINGS THREAT OF TROPICAL CYCLONES CLOSER TO HAWAII THAN POTENTIALLY COULD SEE IN OTHER YEARS.

>>Daryl: EL NINO PRIMARILY TO THE EAST OF US?

OR WHOLE PACIFIC?

>> AREAS, IT'S MAINLY A WARMING OF EASTERN PACIFIC ALONG THE EQUATORIAL AREAS.

>>Daryl: SOUTH AND EAST OF US.

>> YEAH.

MAIN TALKING FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE SPECIFICALLY.

ONE OF THE MAIN GENESIS AREAS FOR THE TROPICAL CYCLONES.

>>Daryl: HAVEN'T HAD A SPECIFIC FORECAST YET.

AUTOMATICALLY MEAN MORE BIG STORMS.

>> DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN IT.

JUST MEANS THAT THERE IS A HIGHER CHANCE THAT WE COULD SEE MORE STORMS.

HISTORICALLY, WHEN WE DO HAVE EL NINO SEE LARGER NUMBER OF STORMS THAT ENTER INTO THE PACIFIC, CENTRAL PACIFIC BASIN.

>>Daryl: JAMES BARROS WITH THE HAWAII EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.

WHEN YOU HEAR THAT, MORE CHANCE OF STORMS, DOES IT CHANGE HOW YOU APPROACH HURRICANE SEASON?

>> YES.

>>Daryl: SOUNDS LIKE A DUMB QUESTION.

I WOULD THEY HAVE TO BE ONE HURRICANE IS ALL WE NEED, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT.

BUT THE OTHER THING TOO IS PAST COUPLE HURRICANE SEASON WE WATCHED TEMPERATURE OF THE OCEAN, LIKE YOU SAID, STORMS NEED THAT WARM WATER AND WE HAD THIS POCKET OF COLD WATER TO OUR EAST.

>>Chair Waters: KIND OF WAS LIKE OUR -- KIND OF LIKE OUR PROTECTION.

>> HELPS, REACH THAT COLD WATER.

REALLY HELPS TO WEAKEN THE STORMS FAST.

THAT'S WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF STORM.

>> COME FROM THE EAST MOVE CLOSE TO HAWAII WEAKEN RAPIDLY.

BECAUSE THEY HIT THIS COOL WATER.

>>Yunji: IS IT THERE NOW.

>> I'D HAVE TO CHECK HOW MUCH IT IS WARMING AROUND US NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT TEMPERATURE IT IS.

THAT WARM WATER IS STRETCHING ACROSS.

>>Daryl: WHAT APPROPRIATIONS DO YOU END UP MAKING THAT WOULD BE MORE IN LINE WITH MORE STORMS?

WHAT PREPARATIONS.

>> STRENGTHSING OUR COMMUNITIES, ENSURING THAT WE'RE CONNECTED TO OUR AGENCIES, CONNECTED BACK TO THE CON INEPTS FOR OTHER STATES TO ASSIST US.

CON DON'TS FINISHED MAKANI PAILI ANNUAL EXERCISE FOR HURRICANES.

CONTINENTS BRINGING ALL THE STATE AGENCIES TOGETHER, BRINGING PARTNER TOGETHER.

AND KIND OF JUST TALKING AND WALKING THE DOG ON WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WHEN WE START TRACKING HURRICANES AND THEN WE GO INTO RESPONSE PHASE AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK I CAN FOR US IN THE STATE.

>>Daryl: LIFERL OF COOPERATION IS HAS IT IMPROVED SINCE THE MAUI FIRE SITUATION?

THAT LEVEL OF COOPERATION, THAT SEEMED LIKE A BIG ISSUE.

>> I THINK EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ENTERPRISES FOR THE STATE WE LEARNED A LOT FROM 2023.

AND I THINK PARTNERSHIPS THROUGH THE AND WITH THE COUNTIES, STATE AGENCIES PRIVATE PARTNERS, EVEN INDUSTRY STEPPING FORWARD TO LOOK AT WE ARE VULNERABLE AND WHEN YOU TELL US WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GORILLA EL NINA, EVERYBODY.

>>Daryl: SHE HATES THAT.

>> EL NINO, DEPUTY CHIEF JASON SAMALA FROM HFD, HOW ABOUT FOR YOU FO FOLKS?

STAFF YOUR STATIONS DOES IT ANYTHING ANYTHING FOR YOU HOW DO YOU GET READY FOR THE SEASON.

>>ATION ALL HAZARDS DEPARTMENT.

RESPONSE TO EVERYTHING EXCEPT LAW ENFORCEMENT RELATED.

SO PREPARING FOR HURRICANE HAS BEEN ONGOING THING.

SO POLICY IN PLACE AND OPERATING GUIDELINES.

AS STORM IS APPROACHING WE DO CERTAIN THINGS ONE IS THEM UP STAFFING STATIONS PREPARING OUR PERSONNEL.

BOTH THEIR HOMES SO THEY CAN BE AVAILABLE TO COME IN IF NEED.

ONE THING WANT TO MENTION TALKING ABOUT HURRICANE SEASON BEEN THROUGH A LOT.

IN MY CAREER, THROUGH THE YEARS.

EL I CAN REMEMBER 2018 TWO BACK-TO-BACK, AT THAT TIME, I WAS BATTALION CHIEF IN THE FIRE COMMUNICATIONS CENTER WHICH IS KIND OF REALLY CLOSELY TIED TO THE EMERGENCY OPERATING CENTER FOR THE CITY.

KIND OF INTERESTING TO SEE THE COORDINATION BETWEEN ALL DIFFERENT AGENCIES BOTH CITY AND STATE.

WITHIN THE OCCC.

THE EOC KONA LOWS TAUGHT US HOW TO COORDINATE AND COMMUNICATE BETTER REALLY GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE, NO LOSS OF LIFE.

I THINK WE'RE BETTER PREPARED FOR WHAT'S IT COME IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO COME THIS YEAR.

>>Daryl: MAJOR TOM STAMBAUGH SALVATION ARMY.

PRIVATE SECTOR, NONPROFIT SECTOR WHEN ARE YOUR MAIN CONCERNS HEADING INTO A SEASON LIKE THIS.

>> 90% SALVATION ARMY DOES IN PREPARATION.

EMERGENCY DISASTER SERVICES WE ALWAYS PLAN ON BEING READY FOR DISASTER.

THAT MEANS MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR RESOURCES READY TO RESPOND.

WORKING WITH HI-EMA OR OUR LOCAL EOCS HAVE PARTNERSHIPS READY SO IF WE ARE ACTIVATED THE BY THESE AGENCIES IT RESPOND, WE WOULD HAVE OUR SUPPLIES, HAVE OUR VOLUNTEERS, HAVE OUR KITCHENS, HAVE.

>>Daryl: WHAT IS ROLE OF THE SALVATION ARMY AFTER DISASTER?

>> TYPICALLY, AS MASS FEEDING.

WE GO INTO A EITHER IT RED CROSS SHELTER OR COMMUNITY, OR PLACE THAT OUR PARTNERS, ACTIVATE US, GO INTO THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY AND HELP FEED THIS AREA.

WE SET UP A PLACE FOR THEM TO FOR THE PEOPLE TO CONGREGATE.

THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE SEEN.

>>Daryl: DID YOU FOLKS LEARN LESSONS FROM THE MAUI SITUATION?

BECAUSE AS I RECALL, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WAS EVERYTHING WAS SORT OF CENTRALIZED IN KAHULUI AND WAILUKU AND PEOPLE OUT WEST SIDE, PAST LAHAINA FELT COMPLETELY CUT OFF.

PEOPLE COMING IN IN BOATS, UNLOADING BOATS.

TO FEED PEOPLE.

HAVE YOU DESIGN CENTRALIZED ALL IN ONE DECENTRALIZED.

>> COULD BE ALL IN ONE PLACE A LOT OF IS DEPENDENT ON THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVE FROM THE AUTHORITIES.

ONE OF THE THINGS SALVATION ARMY DOES NOT DO IS JUST SHOP SW UP NEVER INTERFERN WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT INFEAR WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT OR GET IN THE WAY OF FIRE PEOPLE TRYING TO SAVE PEOPLE.

WE PLAY BY ACTIVATION ORDERS THAT WE RECEIVE.

SO IF THEY SAY GO THIS PLACE AND SERVING SERVE THAT'S WHERE .

SOME PEOPLE WENT OUT OF WAY TO GET A MEAL A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE DEPENDENT ON THE INFORMATION P RECEIVED BY THOSE WE PARTNER WITH.

SO WE LEARN FROM THOSE THINGS AND WE EVALUATE SO NEXT TIME WE PREPARED FOR A BETTER RESPONSE.

ALWAYS GET BETTER.

ALWAYS CHALLENGE OURSELVES TO REACH THE NEXT LEVEL TO PREPAREDNESS.

IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT BEING PREPARED FOR THE NEXT DISASTER.

>>Daryl: I'M GETTING COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ALREADY.

FROM VIEWERS.

I WANT TO HONOR THEIR CONCERNS.

MAILE IN AIEA WRITES, WAIALUA FLOODS ILLUSTRATED DESPERATE NEED FOR MORE RELIABLE METRIC TO INITIATE EMERGENCY EVACUATION.

IS THERE ANY DESIRE TO WORK WITH RESIDENTS WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO REPORT WEATHER CONCERNS AS THEY OCCUR?

TWO QUESTIONS IN ONE.

LET ME ASK LEIGH ANNE EATON FROM THE WEATHER SERVICE.

THE EVACUATION PART OF IT, YOUR GUYS PREDICTIONS DO THEY LEAD TO EVACUATIONS OR DOES THAT HAVE TO BE WHAT THE AUTHORITIES?

>> WEATHER SERVICE DOESN'T, WE DON'T DICTATE VAC EVACUATIONS.

HEED ADVICE OFFER AMONGMENT AGENCIES.

FROM DEM DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

>>Daryl: DID THE WEATHER SERVICE, IT'S SO HARD TO PREDICT EXACTLY WHERE CELL IS GOING TO PARK ITSELF.

>> IT IS PRETTY HARD TO PREDICT WHERE THE CELL IS GOING TO PARK AT THE SELF.

-DID TESTIFY IS.

WE USE OUR KNOWLEDGE OF BEING METEOROLOGISTS AND BEING HERE IN THE ISLANDS, TO KIND OF SEE IF SETS UP OVER HERE, THIS IS THE DRAINAGE BASIN WHERE IT'S IS GOING TO GO.

STEEP TERRAIN WEATHER ISN'T TO STAY FLAT.

DEEPER TERRAIN AND BASINS.

PUBLIC WE HAVE A SPOTTER PROGRAM.

PEOPLE CAN BECOME TRAINED AND BECOME TRUSTED SPOTTERS TO TELL US WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR AREA.

WE CAN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

WHEN WE DO HAVE THE FLASH FLOOD WARNING GO OUT, WE WORK WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PARTNERS TO GET ANY INSIGHT WHAT HAVE GOING ON IN THE GROUND AS WELL TO VERIFY THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING PUTTING OUT WARNING CORRECT LOCATIONS.

>>Daryl: CHIEF JASON SAMALA WERE WE CAUGHT F FLAT-FOOTED SECOND KONA LOW IN TERMS SEEMED LIKE PEOPLE SAYING, THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE AS THE BAY BAD AS THE FIRST ONE AND TELL TEN TIMES WORSE.

HOW QUICKLY I DO YOU KNOW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> IMA EMERGENCY RESPONSE ORGANIZATION, CAUGHT OFF GUARD.

WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS SOME RAIN COMING IN.

WE DIDN'T KNOW TO WHAT SEVERITY.

UNLIKE PREVIOUS KONA LOW, KNEW IT WAS COMING IN, MORE DURING THE DAY AS WELL.

SEE EVERYTHING.

THIS ONE OCCURRED AT NIGHT AND KIND OF SUDDENLY.

SO ALMOST WAS LIKE, I THINK HEARD DIFFERENT TERMS LIKE A BOMB RAIN EVENT.

KIND OF HAPPENED.

AND THEN WE KIND OF RESPONDED HOW WE N NORMALLY IN EVENT.

VERSUS PREVIOUS KONA LOW OR INCOMING HURRICANE YOU HAVE TIME TO SET UP FOR IT AND GET READY FOR IT.

>> PART OF IT WAS WITH THE FORECASTING TO WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT HAPPENING DURING THE EVENING AND EARLY MORNING.

WE KNEW WERE HE GOING HE GET A LOT OF RAIN WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE LATER IN THE DAY.

>> I WILL SAY THAT EVENT, WE ARE DOING INTERNALLY POST EVENT REVIEW AND WE ARE ASKING FOR OUR MODELING AGENCY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE MODELS ESPECIALLY HIGH RESOLUTION MODELS.

THEY DID NOT PERFORM VERY WELL ESPECIALLY FOR THAT I THINK IT WAS MARCH 19 AND 20TH, OVER WAIALUA.

TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

NONE OF THE HIGH RESOLUTION MODELS WERE REALLY SHOWING THAT SETTING UP.

>>Daryl: THESE MODELS, ARE THEY, WHEN YOU SAY MODELING AGENCY, THAT IS SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE ELSE?

>> ALL PART OF OF NOAA.

GPS GLOBAL FORECAST SYSTEM AMERICAN MODEL.

YOU DO HAVE THESE MORE HIGH RESOLUTION MODELS DOWN SCALED.

>>Daryl: WHEN YOU SAY HIGH RESOLUTION.

SHOWS YOU SMALLER O SCREEN.

>> YEAH.

GRID OF IT IS A LOT SMALLER.

YOU CAN RESOLVE THE TERRAIN A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND SOME OF THESE MORE MICROSCALE FEATURES.

SO THIS EVENT, ACTUALLY WAS A, LOOKED LIKE IT WAS MCS, MEZZO SCALE CONSECUTIVE SYSTEM.

THEY THOSE DO PRODUCE, HEAVY AMOUNTS OF RAIN VERY QUICKLY.

>>Daryl: IN HAWAII WEATHER IS ALWAYS HARD TO PREDICT.

ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

>> AND SOME OF THAT IS NOT TO GET TOO TECHNICAL, WEATHER MODELS RELY ON UNINN PUTS.

JUST DINNER INPUTS.

BIG SERIES OF EQUATIONS.

DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INPUT OUTPUT IS NOT GOING TO BE AS GOOD MAINLAND STATION EVERYWHERE.

LAND EVERY WITH YOUR.

STATIONS EVERYWHERE.

EVERYWHERE.

HERE WE DON'T HAVE LAND EVERYWHERE.

TO THE NORTH WHAT IS IT IN.

>>Daryl: STATION, WHAT IS A STATION.

>> WEATHER STATION.

OBSERVING THE TEMPERATURE DEW POINT, WIND W WINDS ET CETERA.

MODELS DO TIME STEPS FORWARD.

IF YOU'RE WORKING WITH NOT GOOD DATA TO START WITH, NOT GOING TO GET IT GOOD OUTPUT.

>>Daryl: I DON'T MEAN TO SEEM LIKE I'M BEATING UP ON YOU.

VERY INTERESTING.

AND BECAUSE SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS BECAUSE WE BASICALLY ARE JUST TINY LAND MASS, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN, BUT WE'RE RELYING ON DATA PRIMARILY FROM OUR OWN LAND MASS.

NOT GETTING DATA FROM THESE POINTS OUTSIDE WHERE WE COULD KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE OVERALL.

>> THAT COULD PLAY INTO THIS.

THAT IS REASON WHY WE HAVE SEEN ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE PACIFIC, MODELS DON'T DO QUITE AS WELL AS IF YOU'RE ON THE MAINLAND, GETTING YOUR WEATHER FORECAST SOMETIMES.

>>Daryl: I REMEMBER BEING, I DON'T WANT TO GO COMPLETELY ON THAT.

SOME OF IT.

GOES INTO THE MODELING.

>>Daryl: OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON PRETTY SOON TO LIKE HOW PEOPLE SHOULD PREPARE.

I GOT THIS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

TALKING ABOUT HURRICANES.

>> TALKING ABOUT WILDFIRES.

SEEMS LIKE ITSES, WHEN ARE WE EXPECTING KEITH ITO EXPECTING FROM WILD WILDFIRE SEASON.

>> ADD A LITTLE BIT, I WAS IN THE FIRST KONA LOW AND NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DID REALLY GOOD FOR US.

I WAS AT KEAAU ASKED FOR SPOT FORECAST.

WE ACTUALLY KNEW, COULD ESTIMATE WHAT WE WERE DEALING WITH FOR THE NEXT COUPLE HOURS IN THE EVACUATION OR SHELTER IN PLACE OF THOSE CHILDREN UP IN THE MOUNTAINS.

>>Daryl: GOT MAKAHA.

>> MAKAHA.

CORRECTME.

THE EVERYBODY CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FUEL RIGHT NOW.

THREE THINGS ACTUALLY EFFECT BRUSH FIRE, WILDLAND FIRE.

TOPOGRAPHY, FUEL AND WEATHER CONDITIONS.

SO THAT'S THIRD OF IT OR MORE OFOF IT IS FUEL TYPE.

IT'S VERY DENSE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'RE TART S STARTING TO PRE.

MY GUYS PREPLANNING AREAS PRIORITIZED.

HOPEFULLY, I WOULD HOPEFULLY, THIS SUPER-EEL NINO WILL PUSH THE BRUSH FIRE SEASON INTO THE WINTERTIME.

AND CATCH A BREAK.

HISTORICALLY, FROM OUR FIRE DATA, HISTORIC FIRE DATA, LOOKS LIKE THE YEAR AFTER OR EVEN TWO YEARS LATER IS WE WITH KIND OF GET AFFECTED A LOT.

>>Daryl: YOU MEAN WHEN THERE'S A BIG EL NINO.

NEXT YEAR AROUND YEAR AFTER IS THE REAL SIGNIFICANT YEAR.

>>Daryl: I DID GET A QUESTION HERE FROM MAYBE THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR MAJOR TOM WHY DIDN'T KAILUA AND WAIMANALO HAVE ANY EVACUATION CENTERS DURING THE LAST WEATHER EVENT?

PEOPLE HAD TO GO TO KANEOHE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE COUNTY TO RESPOND TO THAT.

DO YOU KNOW DISTRIBUTION OF KACENTERS ANY IDEA WHY SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN, PEOPLE HAVE TO GO QUITE A DISTANCE TO GET TO A SHELTER.

>> ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF WE'RE NOT IN CHARGE SHELTERING AS ASPECT.

THOSE WOULD BE SET UP.

USUALLY COORDINATED THROUGH OKAY LOCAL EOCS USUALLY DID HE DESIGNATED SAFER SPACERS FOR SPS PETS DIFFERENT THINGS PEOPLE BRING A SHELTER.

GOES IN THAT.

I WOULD ONLY CONCLUDE THAT WOULD BE THE REASON WHY PEOPLE HAVE TO TRAVEL A LITTLE FURTHER TO THOSE LOCATIONS.

>>Daryl: JAMES BARROS IS THERE STANDARD FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

LIKE HOW SHELTERS ARE DISTRIBUTED, BY THE COUNTIES AND IS IT THE COUNTY WOULD NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT AS OPPOSED TO THE STATE OR IS THERE COORDINATION THERE.

>> COORDINATION.

BUT THE SHELTER IS COUNTY MISSION.

WORK WITH THE COUNTIES ON WHEN IDENTIFY SOMETHING, WE'LL TRY TO LEVERAGE FELT FELLED MONEYS TO STRENGTHEN IT.

FEDERAL MONEYS TO STRENGTH EN IT.

MITIGATION FUNDS TO ENSURE THAT'S STRONG ENOUGH TO WITHSTAND A HURRICANE.

WITH SHELLING RIGHT NOW, ACROSS THE STATE, SHELTERS WE DON'T HAVE A G VERY GOOD HURRICANE SEASON LET SHELTER PLANS BUILDINGS AREN'T STRONG ENOUGH FIRE VERY LARGE HURRICANE.

SHELL R SHELTERING PIECE IS ONE OF THOSE THAT WE'RE WORKING CLOSE LIHUE WITH THE, OUR PARTNERS CLOSELY PARTNERS AND COUNTIES BECAUSE FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS MY PERSPECTIVE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HURRICANE SHELTERS.

I DON'T NEED SHELTERS I NEED HUNKER DOWN SPACE THE SMALL SPACE THAT I CAN STAY ALIVE TO LET THE STORM PASS, AND THEN COME OUT.

>>Daryl: WHEN YOU TSI I SAY I I INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS NEED OR GOVERNMENT SITE FOR THAT.

>> SO GOVERNMENT NOT GOING TO BE THE SOLUTION.

GOING TO BE ALL OF US.

STRENGTHS BEING YOUR HOME THAT YOU CAN STAY AT THAT TIME HOME, OR STAY AT HOME OR IF, SAY YOU HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT LIVE IN DOWNTOWN HONOLULU, ONE OF THESE BIGGER BILLS, WE GO IN THERE.

BIGGER BUILDINGS.

ASKING LARGE COMPANIES TO, CAN YOU SHELTER YOUR EMPLOYEES?

ASK SOMEBODY CAN YOU B YOU BE A SHELTER WENT WH WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

OPENING JUST PLEASE AND FAMILY EMPLOYEES FOR FAMILIES AND FACULTY AND FAMILIES?

WE HAVE TO FIND A A VERY COLLECTIVE SOLUTION FOR THE SHELTERING DURING A HURRICANE.

>>Daryl: IS IT VERY INTERESTING POINT.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT FOR EXAMPLE OR COMPANY HAWAII NEWS NOW WE'RE ALL WORK DURING DISASTER.

WE TEND TO INVITE FAMILY MEMBERS TO COME STAY IN THE BUILDING.

BUT THEN SAME TIME, YOU WANT YOUR EMPLOYEES TO BE HOME WITH THEIR FAMILIES.

IT'S DILEMMA BUT KIND OF SCARY POINT YOU'RE MAKING.

HOW WOULD WE KNOW THAT WAS THE DEGREE OF SHELTERING WE NEEDED AS OPPOSED TO JUST GO HOME, OR JUST MAYBE GO TO THE LIKE THAT IS OPEN OR REC CENTER?

>> RIGHT.

IT WILL DEPEND ON THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH OUR COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

AND EXECUTIVE LEVEL DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING.

>>Daryl: LET ME GOT A QUESTION FOR THE WILDFIRES.

BACK AND FORTH WILDFIRES AND HURRICANES.

QUESTION PERFECT FOR KEITH ITO FROM HFD.

HILLSIDES AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD VERY GREEN.

BRUSH, TREES WEEDS ALL GREEN.

WON'T BE COME JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.

WHAT IS PRETTY SCARY NOW, WHAT CAN A HOME A A HOMEOWNER DO TO?

SHOULD WE IDENTIFYING TO SOMEBODY AREA WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT?

>> REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

FROM THE CALLER.

SO NUMBER OF ONE THING TO DO PROBABLYCY SAI HARDEN YOUR HOME.

CREATE A DEFENSE BEING SPACE.

MEAN LIKE FROM YOUR WALL EXTERIOR WALL OUT 5 FEET NO COMBUSTIBLE MATERIALS.

NONCOMBUSTIBLE.

CESEAR 0 TO 30 FEET.

CUT YOUR GRASS LESS THAN 40 .KEEP CLEAN.

EVERYBODY STORES THING UNDER THEIR HOUSE PULLING ALL OF THAT OUT, COMBUSTIBLES OUT, EAVES PUTTING UP WIRE MESH LESS THAN 8TH INCH SO A EMBERS, EMBERS ARE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY, STILL GOING TO BE MIGHT BE TALKING, MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT, BUT ALSO, THE EMBER CAST, FLY AROUND.

IN MY HOME, GIVEN EXAMPLE I KNOW WHERE THE RUBBISH GOES.

FROM THE WIND.

UNDER MY FRONT DOOR.

SO I GOT TO CLEAN IT OUT BECAUSE FIRST THING THAT WILL DO.

EMBERS WOULD CATCH THAT AND CATCH MY HOUSE ON FIRE.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE I SAW VIDEO RECENTLY, CLEANED HIS HOUSE MAC RAY BUT LEFT THE BROOM LEANING AGAINST EXTERIOR WALL.

CAUGHT FIRE AND HOUSE CAUGHT FIRE.

MAKING SURE HOME IS HARDENED AND DEFENSIBLE SPACE.

WOULD BE THE ONE.

AND GOING INTO WHAT THEY WOULD DO OUTSIDE, AND YOUR NEIGHBORS, OR THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE TRYING TO WORK WITH SPHA WITH TT PERSON.

IF ANYTHING, MAYBE CONTACTING FIRE PREVENTION BUREAU AND SEE IF.

>>Daryl: IS THERE A LAW THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR STUFF GROW UP AGAINST YOUR NEIGHBOR'S FENCE?

>> TRICKY QUESTION.

THAT WOULD BE CHAPTER 17 OF NFPA AND AT THE MOMENT, I WOULD HATE TO PASS A BUCK BUT STATE FIRE MARSHAL BOOTH IS WORKING ON THAT.

>>Daryl: I THINK I REMEMBER HEARING THAT.

IS THAT GOING TO BE, HEARING WHETHER THAT IS GOING TO BE READY BY FIRE SEASON?

>> SHE'S WORKING ONEN IT.

>>Daryl: WHEN IS TECHNICALLY FIRE SEASON.

YOU WERE SAYING.

KIND OF SHINSKINE SHUFTS DEPENDE KIND OF SHIFTS DEPENDING ON WEATHER.

FIRE PREVENTION DAY.

MAY FIRE PREVENTION MONTH.

START FROM THERE.

MAUI MEDICAL I CANS HURRICANE SEASON-MIMICKINGS HURRICANE SEASON FOLLOW THAT.

MIMICKSS HURRICANE SEASON.

BECOMING YEAR-ROUND SEASON NOW.

>>Daryl: LET ME ASK I LEIGH ANNE EATON.

WE HAVEN'T HAD A HURRICANE IN A LONG TIME.

AND I REMEMBER MY EXPERIENCE WAS IT TOOK I THINK, INIKI TOOK 2 OR THREE-HOURS TO CROSS OVER KAUAI.

MAYBE LONGER.

I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY.

BUT IT WAS HOURS AND HOURS.

CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WAY A HURRICANE MIGHT BEHAVE REALLY BAD HURRICANE, LIKE 4 OR 5, VERSUS WHAT WE'VE EVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE?

>> I MEAN, JUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT, YOUR WINDS ARE GOING TO BE SO MUCH STRONGER.

AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE CLOSE TO THAT EYE WALL.

VERY STRONG WINDS AT THE EYE WALL.

GOING TO BE A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL HAVE GUSTY, PERIODS OF GUST WHICH WINDS NATALIE AI WIND CALMS DOWN.GUSTY WINDS HURE STRONGER WINDS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

>>Yunji: WATCHING VIDEO BEFORE LAHAINA WILD LINE BUFFERINING SEE WINDS AND THEY ARE, BU BURNING SEE WINDS 60, 80 MILES PER HOUR?

>> VERY STRONG.

>>Daryl: AND THEY WERE GU GUSTY.

IS 80 MILES PER HOUR WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT OR MORE?

>> DEPENDS WHAT CATEGORY SOMESTORMIS.

TROPICAL CYCLONE COMING THROUGH.

SUSTAINED WINDS WHICH WOULD BE CLOSEST TO THAT STRONGEST WIND WINDS HE IS CLOUGHS TO THE TO CHOICEST TO THE WAY.

CATEGORY 1, 70 MILES PER HOUR.

110 MILES PER HOUR.

>>Daryl: FOR A WHILE?

COMES FROM THE OTHER SIDE, RIGHT?

OTHER THING.

>> IT COULD BE DEPENDING ON WHAT DIRECTION THE STORM IS.

IF IT'S COMING MORE FLAT TOWARDS US, OR IF IT'S MAKING THAT TURN TOWARDS THE SOUTH.

>>Daryl: SO JAMES BARROS WHEN YOU HEAR THAT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SHELTERING, DO WE NEED TO KNOW AS RESIDENTS, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN A 1, A 3, I A 5?

SHOULD WE BE THINKING ABOUT THAT NOW LIKE BECAUSE IF IT'S A 1, OR 2, ONE STRATEGY.

IF IT'S A 3, 4 OR 5, ANOTHER STRATEGY FOR US AS HOMEOWNERS.

RIGHT?

>> YES.

I'M THINKING NO, BECAUSE IT'S A HURRICANE.

THE WINDS, IS GOING TO BE WINDS.

DOESN'T MATTER WAS THE SPEEDS ARE.

IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR HOME AND YOU THINK, I THINK WE CAN WITHSTAND 110, REALLY LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP 2023, THAT WAS JUST BELOW A CAT 1 WINDS WE SAW.

AND JUST RECENTLY, IN FEBRUARY, WE HAD SOME HEAVY WINDS IN FEBRUARY.

OF THIS YEAR.

AND I THINK ON THE WEST SIDE OF OAHU WE SAW MAYBE GUSTS OF SOME HURRICANE WINDS.

THAT TOOK SOME SHINGLES OFF THE ROOFS.

I WOULD FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT, IF IT'S A ONE, OR A 2 PLUS, OR WHATEVER, IT'S A HURRICANE COMING.

THERE'S GOING TO BE HIGH WINDS.

GOING TO BE A LOT OF RAIN.

THERE'S GOING TO BE STORM SURGE.

SO ALL OF IF YOU GOT TO TAKE ALL OF THAT SERIOUSLY.

>>Daryl: LET ME ASK SPECIFICALLY.

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HARDENING HOUSES.

TALKING ABOUT HARDENING HOUSES FOR WILDFIRE BUT WHEN IT COMES TO, WHAT SHOULD WE BE LOOKING FOR, SAFER PLACE IN OUR HOUSE, TALK ABOUT THAT, WHAT CIECHED THING ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

WHAT KIND OF THING.

STRUCTURE OR PLACE, LIKE IN MY HOUSE, KIND OF LIKE SPLIT LEVEL, GOT THIS BASEMENT ROOM GUY BUILT UNDERNEATH.

AND IT'S GOT A HEAVY DOOR.

BUT IT'S UNDER THE REST OF THE HOUSE.

HOW DO YOU MAKE THESE KIND OF JUDGMENTS ABOUT WHAT SAFE PLACE IN YOUR HOUSE?

>> I THINK PREHURRICANE IS DOING THE HURRICANE CLIP ROOFS PREFROPROTECTING YOUR ROOF AND MAKING SURE THAT'S STRONG.

AS A HURRICANE APPROACHING, THERE'S ALWAYS A PEOPLE GO DOWN TO CITY MILL AND BUY WOOD PUT IT ON YOUR WINDOWS EVERYBODY PROTECT THE WINDOWS.

TRYING TO PROTECT ANY WIND COMING INTO THE STRUCTURE.

THAT COULD BLOW ROOF OFF.

ONCE ROOF G COMPROMISES ENTIRE STRUCTURE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HURRICANE CLIPS AND WE NOTICE WHEN NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WATCHING HURRICANE, THERE'S A RUN AT CITY MILL FOR CLIPS TOO.

SO.

>>Daryl: RUN.

EMERGENCY ROOM PEOPLE WHO BANNING UP THEMSELVES TRYING TO PUT CLIP ON THEIR HOUSE BANG UP THEMSELVES.

>> YES, SIR.

DOES THAT KIND OF STUFF NOW TO STRENGHTHEN AROUND REALLY EVALUATE YOUR HOME.

>>Daryl: I THINK WHAT I'M KIND OF ASKING TOO IS WITHIN THE HOUSE, IS THERE A SAFER PLACE WITHIN THE HOUSE?

>> AWAY FROM THE WINDOWS, SO LIKE FORE FOR FOR EXAMPLE I HAVA BIG GLASS WINDOW IN MY BEDROOM.

WE TRY TO BLOCK IT OFF.

PUT IT SOME WOOD ON IT.

I WOULDN'T STAY THIS IN THAT ROOM OF CLOSE ENCLOSE CLOSE THAT DOOR AN MOVE INTO A HALLWAY.

FINDING AWAY FROM THE WINDOWS.

WITH DOORS,.

>>Daryl: JASON SAMALA, DEPUTY CHIEF, HOW GOOD A JOB ARE WE DOING BIG READY DO YOU THINK?

GENERAL QUESTION, NOT ASSESS LUCKY FIRE DEPARTMENT.

NOT SPECIFICALLY TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY PEOPLE.

>> READY AS CAN BE.

THINK ABOUT HURRICANE COMING THROUGH NOT JUST ONE LOCALIZED AREA.

POTENTIALLY ENTIRE ISLAND.

SO WE HAVE JUST FINITE NUMBER OF RESOURCESES INCLUDING PERSONNEL.

AT THAT POINT JUST A MATTER OF KIND OF TRIAGING CALL.

LEADING UP TO THE HURRICANE.

AND THEN DURING EVENT AND POST EVENT, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH DEBRIS FIELDS.

GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO GET.

>>Daryl: ON THAT SUBJECT TALKING ABOUT HIGH WATER VEHICLES.

VEHICLES CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE MAY HAVE LEARNED FROM THE KONA LOW WAS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR AT LEAST FIRE DEPARTMENT OR ITS PARTNER AGENCIES NEED TO BE MORE PREPARED WITH THAT KIND OF VEHICLE.

>> EPIDEM HE WAS IF Y ESPECIALLU GUITAR A HURRICANE.

>> ONE THING TO IDENTIFY AGENTS WHO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT I DON'T THINK IT'S REALISTIC IT HFD PURCHASE A LOT OF HIGH WATER VEHICLES NOT GOING TO BE USED TOO OFTEN.

>>Daryl: HARD PART.

HOW OFTEN DO WE HAVE THESE EVENT?

HOW MUCH DO WE INVEST.

>> LEAN HEAVILY ON JAMES, HI-EMA DOES HAVE RESOURCE AND EQUIPMENT AND STRENGTHING THAT COMMUNICATION, THAT COORDINATION WITH THEM PRIOR TO THE STORM.

>>Daryl: BR JAMES BARROS HO WITH YOU PREPARED WHEN WE WITH CAN ACQU EQUIPMENT AND GEAR HANG AREA GETTING CUT OFF.

BETTER THAN PERHAPS WE WERE FOUR YEARS AGO?

>> I WAS GOING TO JUMP IN.

WOO WE HAVE ISOLATED COMMUNITIES.

WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO GET DONE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS IS STRENGTHEN THOSE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THERE IS A FINITE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES.

SO THINK GOT TO BE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER RIGHT AWAY, AND ASSIST EACH OTHER.

LIKE WHAT WE SAW IN WAIALUA.

HAVING THAT COMMUNITY STRENGTHENED THAT MAKE US STRONGER AND BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND THAT HURRICANE.

>>Daryl: I WENT TO WAIALUA A WWEEK OR SO AFTER VISIT WIFE'S FRIENDS LIVE UP THERE WHEN YOU HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN WAS WE GO THE RESCUING.

DID THE RESCUING GUYS ABOUT BIG WHEEL TRUCKS BEING USEFUL FOR SOMETHING, DROVE THROUGH THOSE PLACES.

AND THAT ISOLATION, AND COMMUNITY, IT'S OKAY IF YOU GOT THE CAN CAPABILITY GOING IN THERE AND A HELPING PEOPLE, FEEL LIKE THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING DO EVERYTHING.

>> EXACTLY.

RESCUING FROM FIRST RESPONDERS ARE HAPPENING.

BUT THEY'RE HAPPENING OVER HERE.

THIS COMMUNITY LIKE CHIEF SAID, THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING BLOCKING ROAD THAT WE CAN'T GET IN AT THAT TIME.

SO IT'S A NETWORK OF RESPONDERS, NATIONAL GUARD, PARTNERING WITH FIRST RESPONDERS.

2050 VISION, HAD A READY FOR ACTION BATTALION TO ASSIST COUNTY ALSO.

SO IT'S A NETWORK OF FOLKS READY TO STEP IN AND HELP.

BUT IF YOU BECOME CUT OFF, YOU GOT TO BE ABLE TO HELP EACH OTHER.

>>Daryl: MET, ANOTHER QUESTION FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

FOR KEITH ITO.

DOES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DO INSPECTIONS TO HELP HOMEOWNERS IDENTIFY AREAS AROUND THEIR HOME THAT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC IN WILDFIRE.

NONE OF US ARE EXPERTS.

WILDFIRE FOLKS.

GIVE THEM A PLUG.

>> YEAH.

TALKING ABOUT HAWAII WILDFIRE MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION.

LED BY NANI BARETO AND ELIZABETH PICKET.

DO A GREAT JOB HOME INSPECTION.

>>Daryl: SAY IT AGAIN, HWMO.

HAWAII WILDFIRE MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION.

>> THEY'RE GREAT.

THEY HAVE ASSESSORS THAT ARE CERTIFIED.

THEY GO OUT, YOU CAN JUST REACH OUT TO THEM ON WEBSITE.

COME OUT AND THEY'LL HELP, ASSESS YOUR HOME FOR YOU.

FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE A PROGRAM AT THIS MOMENT FOR THAT.

GO OUT AND WE ASSIST HWMO WE LEAN MEF HEAVILY ON THEM AT THE MOMENT.

THEY DO I A GREAT JOB.

IF NOT GO ON THE WEBSITE WE HAVE A LINK TO THEM.

>>Daryl: START TO GO GET MORE QUESTIONS IN.

MAYBE SOMETHING THAT, MAJOR COULD HELP US WITH.

YOU CERTAINLY EXPERIENCED AFTERMATH OF DISASTER AND ONE OF THE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS.

PEOPLE WHO ARE STUCK IN QUESTION CAME, HOW SHOULD PEOPLE IN RETIREMENT HOMES PREPARE FOR HURRICANE SEASON?

GIVEN WHAT YOU'VE SEEN, WHAT COULD THEY DO IN ADVANCE TO HELP PREPARE THEMSELVES?

>> SO THAT WAS PART OF OUR, ONE OF THINGS SALVATION ARMY HAS DONE, A LOT AGENCIES DO, REALLY ACTIVATE ACTIVE IN STARTS FAIRS AROUND THE ISLAND.

AND EDUCATING OUR COMMUNITIES ON HAVING F SUPPLIES IN OUR HOME.

READY FOR A DISASTER, IN CASE WE CAN'T GET TO YOU IS YOU HAVE WATER, FOOD, MEDICINES, YOU KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.

YOU KNOW YOU HAVE EXTRA CELL PHONE BATTERIES, THAT ARE CHARGED AND READY BECAUSE POWER GOES OUT.

YOU HAVE SOMEONE ALL OF THOSE LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT, BUT WHENEVER THE POWER GOES OUT, YOU HAVE ALWAYS CALL PEOPLE AND GET A HOLD OF.

LIKE I SAID, BEFORE, A LOT OF STARTS PLANNING IS PREPARED -- STARTS PLANNING PREPAREDNESS BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS.

FOR THE SENIORS, FOR OUR KUPUNA, IN THOSE HAWAIIAN HOMES, CERTAINLY WORK-IN THOSE HOMES WORKING WITH THOSE AGENCIES MAKING SURE THEY HAVE SUPPLIES HAVE GENERATORSER OXYGEN IT DIFFERENT THINGS THEY'RE GOING TO NEED, SO THERE'S UNIT ARE PREPARED.. >>Daryl: IS THAT SOMETHING THAT FOR EXAMPLE, THIS CALLER ASKING, ABOUT RETIREMENT HOME.

OR NURSING HOME.

OR HOSPITAL WHATEVER.

AS A CONSUMER, FAMILY MEMBER, OF THAT PEPPER, LIVING IN THAT PLACE, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT PERSON.

GOOD TIME FOR THEM TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS?

>> SURE.

LEGITIMATE QUESTION TO ASK.

DO WE HAVE DO YOU HAVE A BACKUP GENERATOR?

WHAT KIND OF SUPPLIES?

WATER, DO YOU HAVE, POTABLE WATER?

ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT IN CASE EMERGENCY PERSONNEL CANNOT COME IN AND EVACUATE THE HOUSE, THAT HOME, ARE THERE SUPPLIES TO PROVIDE ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES OWN PERPERSONAL HOME.

GO KIT MEDICINE, WATER ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO.

>>Daryl: EXACTLY THE QUESTION THAT I JUST GOT FROM BENMENT ONE-TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO HAVE IN A SO-CALLED GO BAG READY BAG CAN'T TAKE THE WHOLE HOUSE WITH YOU.

>> I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY TOO, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ONE OF THE THINGS SALVATION ARMY DOES IS EMOTIONAL SPIRITUAL CARE.

THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST EXOCOMPONENTS AU SUED OF MASS OUTSIDE OF MASS FEEDING.

WORK ALONGSIDE CITIZENS TALK TO US AND DEBRIEF THEIR TRAUMA POST DISASTER A THE THESE WHAT WESTOAHU WHAT THEY LOST IN THEIR HOME BECAUSE OF THE DISASTER A LOT OF TIMES TRY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE BEING PREPARED AND NO WAY KNOWING YOUR WHERE IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS ARER R PASSPORTS, THINGS, ADD THAT TO GO BAG BECAUSE YOU MIGHT NEED THOSE DOCUMENTSES.

CAN OTHER FAVORITE PICTURES THAT, MEAN SO MUCH TO YOU.

AND HAVE THAT NEARBY SO IN CASE YOU HAVE TO LEAVE EVACUATE YOUR HOME.

>>Daryl: IS THERE A LIMIT HOW MUCH STUFF YOU CAN BRING TO A SHELTER.

>> THERE ARE.

PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE KNOWING THEY HAVE SOME BASIC THINGS.

BUT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF RO RED CROSS SHELTERS.

HOME AWAY FROM HOME.

ALWAYS RECOMMEND.

HAVING GO BAG THAT HAS LITTLE THINGS AT HOME THAT MEANING IS TO YOU.

THAT GIVES YOU SOME COMFORT.

>>Daryl: I FOUND JAMES BARROS AT ONLINE.

WE HAVE BATTERIES FOR OUR DPEE VICES.

-- DEVICES PHONES AND SO ON.

HAVE BATTERIES NOW FOR OUR LAWNMOWERS.

AND BIGGER BATTERIES AND I FOUND DEVICE THAT YOU COULD TAKE THAT LAWNMOWER BATTERY AND PLUG IT INTO A PORTABLE DEVICE THAT YOU COULD TAKE UPSTAIRS AND PLUG IN SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD COOK SOMETHING OR LIGHT.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

DEVICES OUT THERE THAT BATTERY DEVELOPS, MORE AVAILABLE AND COULD BE VERY HANDY.

EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE TESLA BATTERY ATTACHED TO YOUR HOUSE.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS ON THE GO BAG, STRATEGIES, IS HAVING A HARD DRIVE AND UPLOADING ALL OF YOUR IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO IS WHEN YOU COME IN AND START TO REGISTER WITH THE STATE, AND FEMA,.

>>Daryl: OR MEET WITH INSURANCE COMPANY.

>> OR INSURANCE COMPANY.

WHERE IS IS YOUR DOCUMENTATION?

SO IF I HAVE IT ON MY HARD DRIVE, DOCUMENT WHAT IS IN MY HOUSE.

MY KOA DINING ROOM TABLE, YOU PUT THAT IN THERE.

SO HARD DRIVE, FAIRLY SMALL.

THROW THAT IT IN YOUR BAG.

TO ME ONE OF IMPORTANT THINGS.

>>Daryl: THUMB DRIVE.

LOAD IT ON.

PUT IN A PLUG IN FOR DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

WEBSITE GREAT LIED LAID OUT WEBSITE.

HONOLULU.GOV/DEM SO ON THERE HAS ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO PACK IN YOUR GO BAG.

>>Daryl: I"VE GOT CAME QUESTIONS.

I LOVE THIS QUESTION.

BECAUSE ALWAYS FEELS LIKE THIS IS TRUE.

ALSO EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT, PROBABLY GET A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY.

IS IT TRUE THAT MAUNA KEA AND A MAUNA LOA PROTECT EAST SIDE OF HAWAII ISLAND FROM HURRICANES.

SEEMS LIKE IT PROTECTS WHOLE CHAIN FROM A LOT OF HURRICANES.

WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT?

IS THAT TRUE?

>> SAY NO.

WHAT THEY CAN DO, WHAT THEY DO, SEEN A LOT IN THE PAST HAVE THE WEAKENING SYSTEMS COME TOORTD US TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

TOWARDS US WATERS ARE GENERALLY COOLER.

JUST TO THE EAST OF US.

THAT IS HELPING TO WA WEAKEN STORM.

WE HAVE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH THAT SITS ON TOP OF HAWAII.

THAT DOES HELP TO WEAKEN THE SYSTEM AS WELL.

THEN WHEN WE DO SAY WEAKER SYSTEM COME THROUGH, FROM THE EAST, HIT THE BIG ISLAND FIRST.

THOSE LARGE MOUNTAINS DO HELP TO BREAK THE SYSTEMS UP.

IN ITSELF.

IMAGINE HURRICANE HAS A COLUMN IN IT.

BUT IF IT'S GOING TO HIT THIS LARGE AND I AM MOVABLE MASS COUL SUM GOING TO BREAK AND WEEKEND THAT SYSTEM.

ONCE THAT COLUMN NO LONGER STRAIGHT ON THE CYCLE THIS DO WEAK IN A LOT FASTER.

WEAK IN A LOT FASTER.

>>Daryl: NOW YOU GUYS WOULD TELL US THAT THIS ONE IS COMING TO THE SOUTH.

BUT IT COULD TURN NORTH.

I AGAIN, THAT WAS THE PATH INIKI TOOK.

GOING SOUTH, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, MADE A HARD RIGHT AND SUDDENLY HEADING STRAIGHT FOR KAUAI AND OAHU.

AND ARE WE CAPE CAPABLE OF PREDIBLGING THAT KIND OF MOVEMENT BETTER THAN UBE WITH.

>> EVERYTHING HAS IMPROVED.

WE ARE.

COMMUTER MODELING HAS IMPROVED.

MILES IMPROVED BACK THEN I DON'T KNOW THINK YOU GOT TO IMAGE EVERY 30 MINUTES.

NOT EVEN NOW GET AN IMAGE EVERY 30 MINUTES FROM A SATELLITE.

SENSING HAS IMPROVED MODELS HAS IMPROVED.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MAJOR SURPRISES LIKE IT, TURNING LIKE INIKI DID.

JUST MADE A TURN FROM THE SOUTH.

I WILL SAY THAT STORM THAT IS STAYED TO THE SOUTH OF US LONGER, AND THEN THAT DO TURN ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LIKELY GOING TO BE THE STRONGER SYSTEMS COMING TO HAWAII BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT WARMER WATER TO THE SOUTH OF US FOR A LONGER TIME TO STAY STRONGER.

OPPOSED TO THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSER TO OUR 20 NORTH, 22 NORTH, BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE HIGHER WATERS A LITTLE BIT COOLER.

AND AS I THEY START TO LIFT FARTHER NORTH WATERS GET COOLER.

STAY TO THE SOUTH STAY STRONG.

LONGER.

>>Daryl: HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU THAT WE WILL KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO HIT AND TO WHAT DEGREE WOULD YOU SAY THAT WE COULD PREDICT, 24 HOURS OUT, HOW SURE ARE WE GOING TO BE WHERE IT'SING IT'S GOING TO HI.

HURRICANE FORECAST GOTTEN A LOT BETTER OVER THE PAST 30 PLUS YEARS NOW.

FROM INIKI TIME FRAME.

THE 24 HOURS OUT, I FORGET QUITE WHAT THE ERROR IS, HAVE THE TRACK AND THEY PUT THE ERROR CONE OUT, TWO THIRD OF THE TIME THAT IS WHERE THE SYSTEM FALLS.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ERROR CODE GETS WIDER AS THE FORECAST GETS LONGER OUT IN TIME.

BECAUSE THERE'S MORE URN SENTY.

YOU UNCERTAINTY.

24 HOURS GOOD ESTIMATE WHERE IT'S GO TO GO, AGAIN, SHIFT 20 E NORTH OR SOUTH COULD MEAN A LOT FOR US ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE ARE KIND E'O ISLANDS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN.

>>Daryl: JAMES BARROS, LET'S SAY GOT THIS EYE HIGHER DEGREE OF PREDICTABILITY.

ARE YOU CAPABLE OF MOVING EQUIPMENT, PEOPLE, TO LIKELY THE TARGET?

>> WE WOULD HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, YES.

AS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, START TO LOOK AT SOMETHING AT THE 140.

WAY OUT THERE.

>>Daryl: WHAT IS 140.

>> THAT'S 140 IS THE LONGITUDE LINE.

CLASSIFIED FOR CENTRAL PACIFIC BASIN.

>>Daryl: LATITUDE P U UMP ADD DOWN AND LONGITUDE LEFT AND RIGHT.

LONG TIME, YES.

DOESN'T REALLY MEAN ANYTHING FOR A SLOAN.

CYCLONE IN THE CENTRAL PACIFIC BASIN.

>>Daryl: TRIGGERS YOU GUYS TO START PLANNING OR START, GETTING SPECIFIC ABOUT YOUR PLANNING?

>> YES.

START HOSTING MEETINGS WITH OUR PARTNERS WITH THE COUNTIES, WITH ALL THE STATE AGENCIES AND START TO PLAN THAT.

BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE AS YOU WERE TALKING TO I WAS TELLING MY TEAM, HAWAIIAN NAME SYSTEMS, ARE THE ONES THAT I GET SCARED WITH.

ENGLISH, WE'RE OKAY.

BUT IT'S THOSE HAWAIIAN ONES THAT START LOWER.

>> YEAH.

A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE TO THE SOUTHING US IN THOSE WARM WATERS.

SOUTH OF USER WHERE THEY'RE DEVELOPING WARMO WARM M WATER EH NAMES EASTERN PACIFIC ONES GOING TO LIFT HIGHER TAKE THAT TRACK TOWARD US AND START TO GAIN LATITUDE.

GRADUALLY.

AS WE WERE TALKING WE WOULD START WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS AND EVEN LOOKING AT ASKING SOME ASSETS FROM THE CONTINENT TO COME OVER.

AND BE WITH US PREIMPACT.

>>Daryl: WHO GOT THOSE ASSETS.

>> FEMA.

OBJECT LOO LOOKING AT FEMA.

ONEONE OF THE BIG THINGS LOOK AT SWIFT WATER.

ASSETS FROM THE CONTINENT.

>>Daryl: WHAT'S SWIFT WATER ASSET?

>> WATER MOVING MORE THAN ONE MILE PER HOUR.

>>Daryl: WATER.

NOT A SWIFT ASSET, SWIFT WATER?

>> YEAH.

TRAINED INDIVIDUALS IN SEARCH AND RESCUE.

>>Daryl: THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME HERE AND SUPPLEMENT THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE HERE?

>> YES.

>>Daryl: INTERESTING.

REAL QUICK ONE.

AFTER ALL OF THAT SERIOUS TALK.

WHO CHOOSES NAMES OF STORMS?

ALWAYS WONDERED THAT.

THEY'RE LIKE CHOSEN IN ADVANCE.

RIGHT?

>> YES.

THE WORLD METEOROLOGICAL ORGANIZATION, HAS THAT AUTHORITY ACROSS THE GLOBE WHEREVER TROPICAL CYCLONES FORM.

FOR US HIRE, NAMES ARE EITHER GOING TO COME FROM LIST OF HAWAIIAN NAMES, THAT HAVE BEEN GONE THROUGH THE WORLD METEOROLOGIST ORGANIZATION, APPROVED ET CETERA, AND THEN, OTHER NAMES COME FROM THE EASTERN PACIFIC LIST.

>>Daryl: HAWAIIAN NAMES LIKE CHECKED FOR CULTURAL APPROPRIATENESS?

I BELIEVE SO.

>>Daryl: OKAY.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHO IS ON THE OE COMMITTEE WHEN THE NAMES WERE PROPOSED.

>>Daryl: HOW MANY YEARS OUT ARE THESE NAMES.

>> CENTRAL PACIFIC NAMES LISTS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN HOW THE NAMES WORK IN THE ATLANTIC AND EASTERN.

ROTATE THEIR NAMES LIST EVERY SIX YEARS.

>>Daryl: GOT A LOT MORE STORMS.

>> RIGHT.

GO THROUGH THEM A LOT FASTER.

HAVE LISTS THAT THEY ROTATE THROUGH EVERY SIX WE YEARS.

HERE WE HAVE FOUR LIST FLAMES BUT DON'T GOT THE NEXT LIST FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

LIST OF NAMES.

WHATEVER NAME IS NEXT ARE OREN LIST.

THIS YEAR ARE THE SYSTEM, RESEARCHERS TRO CAL STORM STRENGTH, ST TROPICAL STORM STRAIN, 140 WEST TO THE DATE LINE.

LALA FIRST NAME EASTERN PACIFIC LIST THIS YEAR IS AMANDA.

ALTERNATE BOY GIRL, BOY, GIRL.

>>Daryl: I BET YOU MORE PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER THAT THAN THIS OTHER STUFF.

JUST KIDDING.

SO COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.

GET A LOT MORE QUESTIONS THAN I EXPECTED.

ASKING, WOULD WE CALL IF WE WANT TO VOLUNTEER TO HELP PEOPLE PREPARE FOR WHAT MAY BE COMING OR HELP AFTER A STORM COMES THROUGH?

ARE THERE COMMUNITIES LEVELS ORGANIZATIONS THAT TRACK THAT STUFF IS THIS DEPUTY CHIEF JASON SAMALA.

>> I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ACCURATELACCURATELY ANSWER THAT.

GREAT QUESTION.

SOME OF THAT WITH THE WAIALUA STORM.

PEOPLE COMING OUT FROM EVERYWHERE.

NONPROFITS AND WHATNOT AND SO I THINK AT SOME POINT, DEPARTMENT OF OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, COORDINATE SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS WERE KIND OF WITHIN THAT LANE.

, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO KIND OF ANSWER THAT.

>>Daryl: ALSO HAPPENED ON BIG ISLAND AFTER THE VOLCANIC ERUPTION WHEN KEY ACHE OWE E KAIKO'O MARSOWE SET UP POP UP.

MAYBE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS LOOK AROUND AND SEE WHO IS POPPING UP.

>> ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE NOW.

WE DO HAVE THE VOAD ORGANIZATIONS THAT.

>>Daryl: WHAT?

>> ACRONYM.

ORGANIZATIONS ACTIVATED STARTS STKA*RTSS.

>>Daryl: ACRONYM FOR SOMETHING THAT EXISTS.

DISASTERS, EXIST.

>>Daryl: TELL MASON HO WHERE IT, TELL ME MORE ABOUT IT.

VOLUNTEERS ORGANIZATIONS ACTIVATED AND DISASTERS AND BASICALLY A, GROUP OF, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS SALVATION ARMY AND OTHER NONPROFIT ENTITIES THAT ALL WORK TOGETHER DURING A DISASTER AND KIND OF COORDINATING OUR EFFORTS AND DOING THOSE IT CAN KINDS OF THINGS.

SO WE'RE NOT STEPPING OVER EACH OTHER.

>>Daryl: A SOME PLACE PEOPLE WOULD CONTACT I WANT TO VOLUNTEER FOR SOMEBODY, OR JUST GO DIRECTLY TO THE AGENCIES?

>>Testifier: I THINK AILGTD ASSIST GET COULDN'T TACTD WITH VOAD AGENCIES GET CONTACT.

BE PART OF THOSE CALL IN MEETINGS THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

>>Daryl: QUICK QUESTION CAME FOR KEITH ITO.

WE STARTED TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.

BUT ALSO, IT'S TRASHING HOUSES.

NOT JUST COMBUSTIBLE STUMP.

WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU A NEIGHBOR WITH A PROPERTY FULL OF TRASH.

COMBUSTIBLES.

>> STUFF.

FIRST THING I WOULD DO, I WOULD SUGGEST TRY AND TALK TO THEM.

BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

AND THEN WHAT YOU CAN DO, ONLY THING I CAN SAY RIGHT NOW IS THAT ONLY THING CAN YOU ACTUALLY DO IS CONTROL YOURSELF.

SO MAKING SURE THAT YOUR OWN HOUSE, YOUR OWN YARD, IS HAS DEFENSIBLE SURVE SPACE AND H HA.

YOU RUBBISH EFFECT THEIR HOME YOU CAN REACH OUT AND PUT IN A DMAINT TO THE HONOLULU FIRE DEPARTMENT.

COMPLAINT TO THE HONOLULU DEPARTMENT FIRE PREVENTION BUREAU.

>>Daryl: BUILDING DEPARTMENT?

CITE PEOPLE FOR THAT.

>> INOUY I.

>> OUR SITE.

LOOK AT YOUR HOUSE AS WELL AS, RESTRRECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOUR HE SWELLS OTHER PERSON.

>>Daryl: SHOULD WE BE PROMOTING MORE COMMUNITY SUSTAINABLE RANDY GR GROUPS LIKE ARE.

T?

WHAT IS THAT ORGANIZATION?

>> YOUR COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAMS.

CE ARE.

T SO, THEY GET CERT SPECIALIZE THE TRAINING, SO EVERY COUNTY HAS A CERT PROGRAM.

SO THAT PERSON ASKED TO IF THEY COULD VOLUNTEER, THAT WOULD BE A CERT WOULD BE ORGANIZATION THAT THEY COULD.

>>Daryl: DO THEY, WHAT IT DO THEY DO?

LIKE HELPING CLEAN UP?

ARE THESE GUYS COME OUT WITH THE CHAIN CHAIN SAWS AND STUFFY GUYS.

RUBICON WOULD BE THE CHAIN SAW GUYS.

ANOTHER PART OF THE VOAD VOLUNTEERS VETERANS ORGANIZATION.

BUT THEY WENT AND THEY DO CHAIN SAWS.

DO MUCK OUTS.

VECERT OF COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD GET GET SPECIALIZED TRAINING TO HELP THEIR NEIGHBORS.

>>Daryl: LAST QUESTION.

HOW MUCH EMERGENCY FOOD YOU ARE YOU STORING MAYBE MAJOR TOM, HOW MUCH EMERGENCY FOOD OR STORING FOR PEOPLE IN NEED, DO WE HAVE BIG WAREHOUSES FULL OF FOOD?

>> SALVATION ARMY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR WAREHOUSING.

A LOT OF IT IS PREPAREDNESS OF HAVING VENDORS, SET UP AND/OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

WHEN WE'RE ACTIVATE CAN PURCHASE WHAT WE NEED AND GET THOSE THINGS DONATED TO US.

SO WE CAN GET THOSE THINGS OUT.

>> THERE IS NO HUGE WAREHOUSE OF FOOD FOR EMERGENCIES.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW IS WITH THIS HAWAIIAN ORGANIZATION, THEY FOUND A WAY TO FREEZE DRY HAWAIIAN FOOD.

SO WE CAN AND IT'S SMALL ENOUGH, LIKE EVEN SMALLER THAN MRES TRYING TO GET THAT AND PURCHASE THAT IN BULK.

SO THAT WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, IT'S EASY ENOUGH TO STORE, WE CAN GIVE THEM THAT AND THEY CAN HELP USE THAT.

>>Daryl: FASCINATING.

ONLY HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES LEFT.

ASK FIRE DEPARTMENT AND JAMES BARROS.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE IN HAWAII ARE ACTUALLY PREPARED FOR THESE DISASTERS?

PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY DO YOU THINK IS PREPARED?

CHIEF?

>> I WILL GUESS NOT ENOUGH.

EVERY HURRICANE SEASON, DEM PUSHES OUT MESSAGES AS WELL AS HI-EMA.

GET PREPARED.

DO YOUR 14 DAY SUPPLY OF EQUIPMENT.

HARDEN YOUR HOME WHATNOT.

BUT FEAR IS YEAH, NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE.

>>Daryl: HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE EXCITED ENOUGH DO SOMETHING IN ADVANCE?

BECAUSE HAD SO MANY A RM LAS I WON'T CALL THEM FALSE ALARM.

REAL ALARMS.

SO MANY ALARMS.

>> I THINK OAHU, GOT HIT IN WAIALUA.

MANOA, WAIANAE.

>>Daryl: WAKEUP CALLS.

>> YEAH.

I WAS TELLING MY TEAM, ANOTHER NATURE GAVE US SOME JABS.

THIS WASN'T A RIGHT CROSS.

MOTHER NATURE.

IT WAS JABS GOT TO LEARN IT FROM THAT.

>>Daryl: BE PREPARED FOR THE RIGHT CROSS, REAL BIG PUNCH.

>> RIGHT.

ONE OF THE THINGS UNIVERSITY DID A STUDY ABOUT, TWO YEARS AGO, THEY WERE SAYING, 12%.

BEFORE OUR POPULATION.

>>Daryl: GOOD ANSWER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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ALSO, HI-EMA ADMINISTRATOR JAMES BARROS AND MAJOR TOM STAMBAUGH FROM THE SALVATION ARMY.

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ALOHA.

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