
6/5/25 Preparing for Hurricane and Fire Season
Season 2025 Episode 17 | 56m 55sVideo has Closed Captions
Hurricane season is here.
Hurricane season is here and even as weather forecasters are predicting a near to below average season with 1 to 4 tropical cyclones in our region, they stress the importance of staying aware and being prepared. The other threat this time of year heading into the dry summer months is wildfire. Do you have a plan?
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6/5/25 Preparing for Hurricane and Fire Season
Season 2025 Episode 17 | 56m 55sVideo has Closed Captions
Hurricane season is here and even as weather forecasters are predicting a near to below average season with 1 to 4 tropical cyclones in our region, they stress the importance of staying aware and being prepared. The other threat this time of year heading into the dry summer months is wildfire. Do you have a plan?
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> THE CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE SEASON IS HERE.
AND WHILE THE FORECAST PREDICTS A NEAR TO BELOW AVERAGE HURRICANE SEASON IN HAWAI'I THIS YEAR, THERE IS ALWAYS THE THREAT OF FLASH FLOODING FROM PASSING STORM SYSTEMS.
WE'RE ALSO IN OUR DRY SEASON, INCREASING THE CHANCES FOR POTENTIAL WILDFIRES.
PBS HAWAI'I WANTS TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE PREPARED FOR BOTH.
TONIGHT'S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI'I START NOW.
♪ >> Yunji: ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI'I...I'M YUNJI DE NIES.
THE CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE SEASON RUNS FROM JUNE 1ST TO NOVEMBER 30TH.
THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION OR NOAA, IS FORECASTING A NEAR-TO-BELOW AVERAGE SEASON, WITH ONE TO FOUR TROPICAL CYCLONES ACROSS THE CENTRAL PACIFIC.
HERE IN HAWAI'I, WILDFIRE SEASON IS YEAR-ROUND, DUE TO OUR HOT AND DRY CONDITIONS.
BUT THE HIGHEST THREAT FOR FIRE USUALLY COMES IN THE MONTHS OF JULY AND AUGUST.
WE'VE WITNESSED THE DEVASTATING AND DEADLY IMPACTS OF THESE NATURAL DISASTERS.
AND TONIGHT'S PANEL IS HERE TO REMIND US, THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE COMPLACENT.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW.
YOU CAN EMAIL OR CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND YOU'LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAII FACEBOOK PAGE.
NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.
JOHN BRAVENDER IS THE WARNING COORDINATION METEOROLOGIST FOR NOAA AND THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST OFFICE IN HAWAI'I.
HE WORKS WITH ORGANIZATIONS STATEWIDE TO HELP RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND AND PREPARE FOR WEATHER HAZARDS.
RANDAL COLLINS IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY AND COUNTY OF HONOLULU'S DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
HE WAS SWORN IN LAST MONTH, BUT AS A CERTIFIED EMERGENCY MANAGER, HE'S LED RESPONSES TO MAJOR DISASTERS, INCLUDING HURRICANE SANDY.
ELIZABETH PICKETT IS THE CO-EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HAWAI'I WILDFIRE MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION.
THROUGH THE NON-PROFIT, SHE WORKS WITH PARTNERS ACROSS THE STATE AND PACIFIC REGION TO IMPLEMENT WILDFIRE MITIGATION, PLANNING AND EDUCATION PROJECTS.
AND MOLLY SCHMIDT IS THE INTERIM CEO OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS OF HAWAI'I.
IN ADDITION TO DIASTER RESPONSE, THE NON-PROFIT FOCUSES ON EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, OFFERS LIFESAVING SKILLS CLASSES AND PROVIDES SUPPORT TO OUR MILITARY FAMILIES.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION AND TIMELY ONE.
JOHN, WE SAW THE FORECAST COME OUT.
YOU GAVE YOUR ANNUAL PRESS CONFERENCE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE TO FOUR TROPICAL CYCLONES.
THIS DOESN'T MEAN HOW SYSTEMS WILL AFFECT US.
>> WITH THE HURRICANE SEASON, IT'S FOR THE WHOLE BIG OCEAN, AND DOESN'T ADDRESS HAWAI'I.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO COME UP WITH THE ABILITY TO FORECAST FOR LANDFALL.
WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IN 2020 WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
WE HAD ACTIVITY, BUT DOUGLAS PASSED BY NORTH OF US.
LAST YEAR WE HAD GILMA.
WE HAD QUIET SEASONS.
>> Yunji: WHEN WE THINK ABOUT A QUIET SEASON, IT ONLY TAKES ONE.
ELIZABETH, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HURRICANES BUT WE'RE ALSO THINKING ABOUT FIRES.
TELL US ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW WHEN WE APPROACH OUR DRY SEASON AND WHAT YOU'RE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT.
>> NOW IS A REALLY GOOD TIME TO START GETTING PREPARED FOR OUR DRY SEASON.
THERE'S SO MUCH PEOPLE CAN DO FROM WILDFIRE.
WHAT WE'RE LEARNING AFTER LAHAINA AND L.A.
FIRES IS MOST PROTECTIVE ACTIONS YOU CAN TAKE ARE WHAT YOU CAN DO FROM YOUR OUTSIDE WALL OF YOUR HOUSE TO FIVE FEET OUT.
IF YOU RAKE IT AND CLEAR IT AND CLEAN IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOTHING COMBUSTIBLE THAT AN EMBER CAN IGNITE.
THOSE ARE HOMES THAT SURF VIEFD.
BEING PREPARED AND DOING THOSE HOUSEKEEPING CHORES IS A POWERFUL WAY TO MAKE SURE YOUR HOME CAN SURVIVE.
AND MAKING A PRACTICE IN YOUR FAMILY EVACUATION PLAN.
NOW IS THE TIME TO DO THAT.
NOT WHEN THERE'S A FIRE.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE WORK THAT YOU DO AHEAD OF TIME THAT MAKES THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE.
>> Yunji: WHEN YOU'RE TAKING ABOUT ONE TO FIVE FEET.
>> RIGHT AT YOUR OUTSIDE WALL, WORKING INTO THAT FIVE-FOOT ZONE AROUND YOUR HOUSE.
THE HOMES AND STRUCTURES THAT HAD NO LEAVES AND NO COMBUSTIBLES AND HAD SCREENED VENTS.
WHEN A FIRE IS MOVING THROUGH, IT'S USUALLY EMBERS THAT IGNITE THE HOMES, STRUGGLE STURE DOING STRUCTURE AND YARD.
MOST IMPACTFUL PLACE YOU CAN DO IT IS START CLOSE TO YOUR HOME AND WORK YOUR WAY OUT.
>> Yunji: SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING MOST OF US CAN MANAGE.
RANDAL, SHE'S TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING TO DO ON A INDIVIDUAL SCALE.
YOU'RE SORT OF FRESH ON IT'S JOB.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE AREAS THAT NEEDS THE MOST WORK WHEN IT COMES TO THE COUNTYWIDE SYSTEM?
>> WELL, I THINK A BIG THING THAT EMERGENCY MANAGER REALLY FOCUSES ON IS THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS.
IT TAKES THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO PREPARE FOR DISASTER.
WORKING NOT ONLY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT THE RELATIONSHIPS WITH YOU BUILD WITH PEOPLE LIKE THE RED CROSS AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WITH THE WEATHER SERVICE AND ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT COMING TOGETHER DURING DISASTER SO THEY'RE ALIGNED WHEN A DISASTER HAPPENS AND KNOW WHAT EACH OTHER IS TO DO AND HOW TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
>> Yunji: I WOULD IMAGINE AT THIS POINT YOU'RE DOING LOTS OF THAT.
>> LOTS OF MEETING, INTRODUCING MYSELF AND TRYING TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS.
>> WHAT'S YOUR ASSESSMENT?
ARE WE READY FOR A MAJOR WEATHER EVENT, YOU THINK?
>> WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NATURAL DISASTERS, DEFINITION IS WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT OF RESOURCES OR SHY OF RESOURCES AND IT DOES OVERWHELM YOU.
THERE'S NO COMMUNITY THAT'S READY FOR A DISASTER.
THAT'S THE WHOLE DEFINITION OF A DISASTER.
THE FOCUS IS REALLY TO ALWAYS BE VIGILANT.
KNOW HOW TO GET INFORMATION AND ALWAYS BE PREPARED FROM THE INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES HERE.
THEY SHOULD HAVE THEIR PLANS IN PLACE.
NOW HOW TO GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION AND CREDIBILITY INFORMATION AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER.
SAME GOES THROUGH FOR ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS.
WHETHER YOU'RE A BUSINESS, GOVERNMENT AGENCY DOING THINGS WE NEED TO DO TO PREMIUM.
WE'RE HAVING A MAJOR EXERCISE NEXT WEEK FOR HURRICANE, AND SO THAT'S A STATE LED EXERCISE.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU WANT TO DO TO PREPARE.
>> Yunji: THAT'S A PERFECT SEGUE TO YOU, MOLLY.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE KIND OF PREPARATION THAT ELIZABETH TALKED ABOUT THAT'S PREPARING OUR HOUSE, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE KITS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S SOMETHING I GET A LITTLIZE ON.
- LAZY ON.
>> COMMUNITY PREPAREDNESS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT NEIGHBORHOODS AND FAMILIES CAN DO FOR THEMSELVES.
WE ALL KNOW THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT EMERGENCY KIT AND THOSE PREPAREDNESS SUPPLIES.
HERE IN HAWAI'I WE RECOMMEND A TWO-WEEK SUPPLY.
THAT MAY SEEM LIKE A LOT, AND IT IS MORE THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
WE KNOW WE'RE IN A UNIQUE SITUATION SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF WATER.
AND WE NEED TO DO THINGS NOW AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND RELATIONSHIPS AND WORK WITH OUR FAMILIES.
HAVE THAT PLAN.
KNOW WHAT YOUR ESCAPE ROUTE IS AND WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO MEET UP AND HAVE RESOURCES.
THE FOOD, WATER.
IF YOU HAVE MEDICAL NEEDS.
IF YOU HAVE PETS, CHILDREN.
EVERY FAMILY IS UNIQUE SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT FAMILY DISCUSSION AND SAY WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO TO PREPARE.
HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
WE HAVE A CHECKLIST ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE AS PREPARED AS POSSIBLE.
WE CAN DO THINGS NOW TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN THE BEST SITUATION.
>> Yunji: JOHN, PART OF BEING PREPARED IS HAVING DATA AND INFORMATION.
THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
RESOURCES ALLOCATED TO YOUR AGENCY.
HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED ANY CUTS TO THIS POINT AND HOW HAS THAT CHANGED YOUR ARGUMENT ABILITY TO FORECAST?
>> IT'S IMPACTED US AS WE'VE LOST PEOPLE TO EARLY RETIREMENTS AND REGULAR RETIREMENTS, REALLY.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO FILL SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS.
BUT THE CORE MISSION CONTINUES.
THE PROTEST OF LIFE AND PROPERTY.
WE'VE TRIMMED BACK SOME ROUTINE DUTY.
IN ORDER TO CUT BACK THE NECESSARY PEOPLE WE NEED WORKING TO KEEP THE REST OF THE MISSION GOING.
WE HAVE PEOPLE READY TO COME IN EXTRA FOR ANY POTENTIAL HAZARDS, WHETHER IT'S HURRICANE THREAT, FLASH FLOODING OR SEVERE WEATHER.
>> Yunji: DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR ABILITY TO DO THE WORK YOU NEED TO DO?
>> WE'RE STILL ABLE TO MEET OUR COMMISSION.
BY CUTTING BAM SOME -- -- BACK F THE ROUTINE, WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID BURNOUT AND KEEP PEOPLE READY FOR WHEN THE WEATHER DOES GET BUSY.
>> Yunji: I LOVE THAT WE'RE GETTING QUESTIONS ALREADY.
WE LOVE TO HEAR THEM.
GORDAN FROM PALOLO HAS A QUESTION.
WORST-CASE SCENARIO IN A HURRICANE OR FIRE, WHERE WOULD WE GET SUPPORT FROM?
MILITARY, CONTINENTAL U.S.?
WHO'S COMING TO HELP US?
>> WOW.
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE OUR INDIVIDUAL READINESS IS THERE FIRST.
SO THE WAY THAT OUR RESPONSE MECHANISM IS DESIGNED IS INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES FIRST.
AND YOUR COMMUNITIES NEXT.
THEN FOR THOSE OF US HERE ON OAHU, THE CITY AND COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BE YOUR FIRST RESPONSE TO SUPPORT.
AND WE'LL LOOK TO THE STATE.
AND ON INTO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE LOOKING A LOT TOWARD SOMETHING CALLED EMAC, GETTING CENTRAL SERVICES FROM OTHER STATES.
AND IT'S A STATE-TO-STATE AGREEMENT KIND OF THING.
ALSO KNOWING THAT THE MILITARY IS HERE.
WE WOULD PROBABLY BE PRETTY QUICK TO ASK FOR WHAT THEY CALL DEFENSE SUPPORT.
BUT THAT CAN TAKE SOME TIME.
IF IT'S IN AN MEEDS SITUATION, THE MILITARY ALWAYS HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE IMMEDIATE ACTIONS TO SAVE LIVES AS WELL.
WE'D USE THAT PROCESS, BUT MOST LIKELY AGAIN, WE REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN HANDLE THINGS LOCAL WILL I FIRST.
>> Yunji: MOLLY WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ORGANIZATION'S ROLE BE?
>> OUR ROLE WOULD BE TO WORK WITH OUR COUNTY AND OUR STATE AND OFFICIALS.
WE WORK WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCIES AND FOLLOW SUIT WITH OUR PARTNERS.
WE WANT TO BE IN COLLABORATION, AND WE WILL BE READY.
WE ARE AROUND THE CLOCK, 24 HOURS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
WHEN YOU CALL THE RED CROSS, THE COUNTY DECIDE WHERE THE SHELTERS ARE AND NUMBER OF SHELTERS AND RED CROSS STAFF IT.
90% IS VOLUNTEERS.
WHEN YOU SEE THOSE AMERICAN RED CROSS WORKERS IN THE SHELTERS AND HAPPENING OUT BLANK KETS AND WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS AND MENTAL HEALTH, THOSE ARE TRAINED VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE PROBABLY YOUR NEIGHBORS.
OR JUST SOMEBODY FROM ANOTHER ISLAND HERE IN HAWAI'I BECAUSE WE WILL DEFINITELY RELY ON EACH OTHER IN TERMS OF OUR NEIGHBOR ISLAND SUPPORT.
WHEN THERE'S A DISASTER, THAT'S WHO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO FIRST.
WE LOOK TO THE INDIVIDUAL AND OUR COMMUNITIES.
THAT RESILIENCE IS SO KEY.
WE WILL LEAN ON EACH OTHER FOR THAT.
>> Yunji: THERE'S A QUESTION FOR ELIZABETH FROM JANICE.
ARE THERE ANY RULES THAT MANDATE LARGE LANDOWNERS TO TO MANAGE TR PERIMETERS?
EMAFTER THE MAUI WILDFIRES?
>> THERE'S A FEW WAYS TO ANSWER IT.
I THINK ONE I THINK THIS I THINO UNDERSTAND IS THAT OUR RISK INCLUDES A NOT OF FACTORS.
IGNITION THAT HIMS ARE HUMANS AE CAUSING.
99% ARE CAUSED BY ACCIDENTAL.
1% IS LAVA OR LIGHTNING COMBINED.
FIRST PART, REMEMBER HOW FIRES START AND REMEMBER THEY SPREAD TO LARGE LANLTSDZ.
LANDS.
FIRST RECOMMENDATION TO PROTECT AROUND YOUR HOME AND YARD IS THE MOST PROTECTIVE PART OF THINGS.
WE TRY TO SWING IT TO WHAT'S EMPOWERING WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO.
SECOND PART, YES, THERE ARE RULES.
DEPENDS ON THE COUNTY.
THE REQUIREMENT FOR LARGE LANDOWNERS, DEPENDING ON THE COUNTY, IS THEY'RE MANAGING FIELDS WITHIN 30 FEET OF A STRUCTURE.
FOCUS IS ALWAYS ON STRUCTURAL LIFE AND PROPERTY PROTECTION.
NOT ON THE GIANT LAND.
THEIR PIECE IS WHEN LANDS ARE MANAGED, THEY ARE LESS FIRE APPROPRIATE.
IF WE HAVE RESTORATION OR CONSERVATION, IF IT WAS LOOSE MANAGED, THAT WOULD DECREASE OUR WILDFIRE RISK.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNERS THAT SIT ON LAND AND DON'T MANAGE IT.
THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH ECONOMY AND AGRICULTURE.
IT'S A VERY COMPLEX TOPIC.
THERE'S A LOT 6 A LOT OF PEOPLEG ON IT.
IT'S STILL FOCUSED ON STRUCTURAL PROTECTION.
NEAR OUR HOMES AND YARDS, WE'RE FOCUSING ON THAT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING ON THAT.
TO ADDRESS LARGE LANDED.
>> MAY I ADD ON?
>> Yunji: PLEASE.
>> I THINK OUR COMMUNITIES, WE WORK TOGETHER, ALL OF US, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THE AMERICAN RED CROSS DOES IS FREE SMOKE ALARM INSTALLATION.
WE ALSO WORK WITH OUR FIRE WAIKIKI COMMUNITY AND HAWAI'I FIRE MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION.
WHEN WE GO INTO THE HOME, WE'RE GOING TOGETHER.
WE'RE DOING THE SMOKE ALARM INSTALLATION.
HERE'S OUR PARTNER, AND THEY'RE DOING THE OUTSIDE.
WE'RE DOING INSIDE.
ONE CONTACT WITH THE FAMILY.
THEY FEEL WOW, I'VE GOTTEN SOME BENEFIT AND IT DOESN'T FEEL PIECEMEAL.
USING RESOURCES WISELY AND DOING GOOD STEWRDS.
WE WANT TO IMPACT AND MAKE EVERY HOME RESILIENT.
PICK UP THE PHONE AND WE SAY WE'RE GOING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME WITH US.
WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH YOU AND VICE VERSA.
LIKE WITH NOAA, WE'RE ALWAYS ON THE PHONE WHEN WE SEE DISTURBANCES.
WE'RE WORKING IN HARMONY TO MAKE SURE OUR HAWAI'I COMMUNITIES ARE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.
>> Yunji: JOHN, YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME.
HOW ARE WE DOING?
>> I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS LEARNING.
THAT'S ONE THING I BECAME WCM IN 2017.
WE'VE HAD ANY NUMBER OF DISASTERS.
THE MORE YOU GO THROUGH THEM, THE MORE YOU LEARN FROM THEM AND NOW HOW TO RESPOND GOING FORWARD.
THE KEY THERE IS PERSONAL PREPAREDNESS.
COMING UP -- NOT JUST HAVING SUPPLIES, HAVING A PLAN.
KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AHEAD OF TIME.
THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY THINGS.
EVEN THOUGH AS A STATE WE MIGHT HAVE THIS DISASTER HERE, THIS DISASTER THERE, PEOPLE FORGET.
NEW PEOPLE MOVE IN.
PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED DECADES AGO, AND KEEPING THAT FRONT AND CENTER TO KEEP THEM FROM BEING COMPLACE.
IS THE BIG PREPAREDNESS CHALLENGE.
>> CAN I ADD ON?
>> PLEASE.
>> WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL PREPAREDNESS.
FIRE-WISE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS BUILDS ON THAT TO HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL PREPAREDNESS.
ADJACENT LANDOWNERS TIE INTO THAT AND DO THEIR PART.
>> THERE IS THIS COMMUNITY LEVEL READY LESS THAT CAN HELP WITH THAT TURNOVER WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND RESIDENTIAL MEMORY OF THE HAZARDS THAT WE FACE TOGETHER.
AND WE NEED TO KEEP UP SO NEIGHBORS CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER WHEN THEY KNOW EACH OTHER.
IT'S MORE THAN ONE HOUSE.
THE PROTECTION GROWS AND GROWS.
WE TALKED ABOUT INDIVIDUAL PREMIUMNESS BUT THERE'S COMMUNITY LEVEL.
WE HAVE A ROLE AND WE ALL NEED TO DO IT.
>> THOSE EMULATE THE VALUES OF THE HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY.
WE ARE FAMILY-BASED, NEIGHBORHOOD BASED.
>> THAT SENSE OF OHANA AND RESPONSIBILITY, THAT IS PART OF HOW WE JUST OPERATE.
AND ONE OF THE FABULOUS THINGS ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION IS THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DISASTERS.
HURRICANE, WE STARTED THE SEASON, AND THOSE ARE NOTICE EVENTS.
WE KNOW THEY'RE COMING.
WE CAN PREMIUM.
OTHER TYPES OF DISASTERS THAT ARE IN LINGO, NO NOTICE.
THEY'RE SUDDEN.
BEING SURE YOU'RE READY.
I HAVE A GO BAG UNDER MY DESK, AND IT HAS MY SNEAKERS.
IT HAS MY BASEBALL CAP, SUNSCREEN, IT HAS WATER.
A CAN OF SOUP AND SPON AND A -- SPOON AND WAY TO OPEN THE CAN.
I ASK, DO YOU HAVE YOUR GO BAG?
IS IT IN YOUR CAR?
YOU CAN PICK IT UP IT'S A AT AN.
ROLE MODEL TO EVERYONE AND MAKING SURE WE ARE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND KUPUNA.
>> Yunji: I AM NOT THERE.
I GOT TO BE HONEST.
>> Yunji: TO YOUR POINT, TREVOR SAYS WHICH USED TO HAVE DISASTER PREPAREDDENING IN FRONT OF THE PHONE GOOKER BOOKS.
THAT INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE IN ANY MATERIALS DISTRIBUTES NOW.
HOW CAN WE MAKE INFORMATION MORE AVAILABLE AND USEFUL?
YOUR WEBSITE HAS A LOT OF RESOURCES.
I WOULD IMAGINE CITY AND COUNTY.
ALL FOUR OF YOUR WEBSITES, BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO FEEL LIKE USED TO BE EASY.
LOOK AT THIS ONE PAGE.
>> THERE'S NO PHONE BOOK ANYMORE.
THE AMERICAN RED CROSS DOES HAVE A FREE EMERGENCY APP.
CUT IN YOUR ZIP CODE AND SAY WHAT KIND OF DISASTERS YOU WANT TO GET NOTIFIED ON.
I HAVE ONE ON VOLCANOES AND 5.1 EARTHQUAKE.
IF YOUR GRANDMA IS IN TEXAS, YOU CAN DO THAT AND GET ALERTS AND CALL AND ASK AND MAKE SURE.
I SAW THERE WAS A FLASH FLOOD.
WE'LL ME YOU'RE OKAY.
USING TECHNOLOGY SMARTLY BUT -- PREPAREDNESS.
DISASTERS, KNOCK ON WOOD, DON'T HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.
IT -- JUST TAKES ONE.
ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WE GO THROUGH K THROUGH 3 BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO GET USED TO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND THEY GO HOME WITH THEIR COLORING BOOK AND HOPEFULLY TELLING OUR FAMILY, THIS IS WHAT I LEARNED.
IT SPURS THAT CONVERSATION.
>> Yunji: THERE'S A QUESTION FOR THE PANEL.
BETWEEN HURRICANES AND WILDFIRES, WHICH CONCERNS YOU MOST OF HAWAI'I?
HURRICANES AND WILDFIRES, AS WE SAW IN LAHAINA ARE TIED TOGETHER.
HIHIGH WIND EVENT.
ELIZABETH, START WITH YOU.
>> I THINK OF IT IN TWO WAYS.
WILDFIRES, WE'RE HAVING THEM ALL THE TIME.
WE HAVE OVER A THOUSAND FIRES A YEAR.
THERE IS A NEED TO BE PREPARED ALL THE TIME.
THERE IS A NEED TO DO ALL THE MAINTENANCES.
WE HAVE A LOT MORE FIRES THAN HURRICANE.
FIRES CAN ONLY TRAVEL WHERE THERE'S FUEL.
WE CAN MOW THE GRASS, SWEEP THE LEAVES SURE UP OUR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
HARDEN OUR HOMES.
WE CANNOT CONTROL THE HURRICANE LIKE WE CAN'T CONTROL A FLOOD AND TORNADO BUT WITH FIRE WE CAN PREVENT, REDUCE, WE CAN CHANGE THE WAY IT TRAVELS.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT -- THEY BOTH MATTER, AND WE HAVE MORE FIRES BUT THERE'S MORE WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
PEOPLE ARE NOT NECESSARILY DOING THAT YET.
>> NO, WE CANNOT CONTROL HURRICANES.
[LAUGHTER] JUST PREPARE FOR IT.
INTERESTING YOU MENTIONED BOTH AT THE SAIL AT THE SAME TIME.
IN 2018 THERE WAS A LAHAINA DURING HURRICANE LANE.
HEAVY RAIN ON ONE SIDE OF THE ISLAND.
WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT THE -- YOU CAN HAVE HEAVY RAIN AND FIRE AT THE SAME TIME.
IT DRIVING HOME THE POINT OF OUGHT THE DIFFERENT, I GUESS, WILDFIRE HURRICANES.
PREPARING FOR EITHER REALLY HELPS WITH EVERYTHING.
NOT JUST HURRICANES BUT LIKE A SUE TSUNAMI.
TSUNAMI.
KNOWING MULTIPLE EVACUATION ROUTES.
IF A ROAD GETS FLUSHED OUT OR GETS CAUGHT IN A WILDFIRE.
I DON'T REALLY LIKE THE PREM --M SESSION OF THE QUESTION.
IT'S NOT THE INCIDENT ITSELF.
IT'S THE LEVEL OF DAMAGE IT DOES TO INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT'S WHERE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT PREPAREDNESS, WE THINK WE HAVE TO BE READY FOR THE WINDS OF THE HURRICANE.
NO, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN POWER IS OUT FOR TWO WEEKS OR 3 WEEKS AT A TIME.
THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE YOUR GO KIT AND POWER GENERATED THINGS.
I LIVE ON THE 23RD FLOOR.
I'M GOING TO BE REALLY IN SHAPE AFTER A DISASTER TO GET TO MY APARTMENT.
THINK ABOUT THE KUPUNA WHO LIVE SO HIGH AND ELEVATORS AREN'T GOING TO WORK.
NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE OFTEN IN A SHELTER OR WHATEVER OR LIVING WITH FAMILY.
NOT WITHOUT YOUR NORMAL CONVENIENT ITEMS.
THINK ABOUT THAT LEVEL OF DAMAGE AND DESTRUCTION AND BE PREPARED FOR THAT OF.
>> Yunji: I KNOW YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE EXERCISE SO YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER ANSWER AFTER THAT.
JENNIFER SAYS HAS HONOLULU ADDRESSED SHORTAGE OF SHELTER PROBLEM?
WHERE SHOULD WE WE GO AND WHEN?
>> MY DEPUTY DIRECTOR.
[LAUGHTER] NO.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, I THINK YOU HAVE TO EVALUATE WHERE YOU ARE AND YOUR HOUSE AND ITS LEVEL OF PREPAREDNESS OR LEVEL OF STURDINESS TO HANDLE A DISASTER.
IF YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES TO STRENGTHEN IT AND IMPROVE IT, DO SO.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE A POINT, HAVE A PLAN TO GO ELSEWHERE AND DON'T PLAN ON USING THE GOVERNMENT PROVIDED SHELTERS.
SO YOU WANT TO GO TO A FRIEND'S HOUSE, FAMILY MEMBERS HOUSE THAT IS A MORE STURDY HOME.
WE WANT SHELTERS TO BE A PLACE OF LAST REFUGE.
AND MAYBE WORK IS AN OPTION.
WORK WITH YOUR EMPLOYER.
WILL THEY TAKE YOU IN AND CREATE WORK BASED 14E89ERS -- SHELTERS IN THE OFFICE KIND OF THING.
TRY TO KEEP THE BURDEN OFF PLACES FOR LAST REFUGE.
>> Yunji: WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> EVACUATION CENTERS AND SHELTERS WILL POP UP WHEREVER THERE'S NEED.
WE WILL ALWAYS RESPOND IN COMMUNITIES THAT NEED US MOST, AND WE WILL BE THERE.
WITH DISASTER SUPPLY AND HELP AND HOPE.
SECURING LOCATION AND AGREEMENT THAT'S WORK THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THE TIME.
WHEN WE'RE NOT IN A DISASTER MODE.
WE WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE DOING THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
>> Yunji: THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS BY WOULD SADIE BRI -- ABOUT DEBRIS AND BRANCHES.
THIS IS MILES FROM HAWAI'I KAI OF THE WHO'S OVERSEEING THAT PUBLIC-PRIVATE PROPERTIES MAINTAINED WHEN IT COMES TO OVERGROWTH?
GOES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESSURE THAT YOU PUT IN.
IF ALL THE NEIGHBORS ARE DOING IT, THEN THAT ONE HOUSE OR LANDOWNER STICKS OUT.
MOSES SAYS A FEW YEARS AGO WE TOOK A BUNCH OF PRECAUTIONS CLEARING BRANCHES.
NEIGHBORS DID NOTHING AND LEFT LOOSE THINGS IN THEIR YARD THAT COULD HAVE BEEN BLOWN OVER, INCLUDING OUR WINDOWS.
HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT?
>> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS BEFORE THE SHOW.
THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR FENCES, WHETHER IT'S LARGE LAND OWNER OR NEIGHBORS PROPERTY.
IT IS REAL THAT THE ADJACENT LARGE LAND CAN BURN AND THROW EMBERS.
WHETHER YOUR HOW LONG CAN SURVIVE IS UNTO UN-- UP TO YOU.
IT CAN BE FRUSTRATING IF YOU LIVE NEXT TO A VACANT LOT THAT'S NOT MANAGED.
WE ARE ENCOURAGING COMMUNITIES THAT PUTS ON SOCIAL PRESSURE.
WE'RE ENCOURAGING H.O.A.s TO REGULATE SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
THERE'S A LOT OF POWER TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
AND YOU START WORKING YOUR WAY UP.
WE'RE WORKING ON IMPROVING OUR COUNTY ORDER ORDER NANGSZS.
IF YOU WANT YOUR NEIGHBOR TO BE REGULATED, YOU BETTER BE READY TO BE REGULATED.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE GO.
OVER TIME MAYBE THERE WILL BE LEGISLATION OR AN INCREASE IN CODES.
WE ARE SORT OF WORKING TOGETHER AMONG ALL PARTNERS TO FIGURE HOW BEST TO DO THAT WITHOUT OVERREGULATING.
VERY BEST THING IS TO MODEL TO DO OUR OWN WORK AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT'S WHERE THE MOST POWER IS.
>> Yunji: I WANT TO GO TO FORECASTING.
U.H.
MO NOAH I BELIEVE HAS 70 CAMERAS AROUND THE STATE.
TELL US WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF NEW WEATHER STATIONS PUT IN.
U.H.
INSTALLED.
HAWAIIAN ELECTRIC DEPLOYED WEATHER STATION TO THEIR EQUIPMENT AS WELL.
FROM A METEOROLOGIST STANDPOINT, IT'S AMAZING HAVING THAT MUCH DATA.
WE ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS AREA HAS TO BE WINDY.
NOW WE HAVE OBSERVATION THERE.
AND IT HELPS US, 1, FEEDS INTO ALL THE COMPUTER MODELS WE HAVE.
BETTER WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, THE MOST ACCURATE WE CAN FORECAST IN THE FUTURE.
ALSO FROM AN INTERTAKES STANDPOINT, WE SEE THIS PATTERN.
THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPEN HERE.
THIS IS WHAT IS HANG ON -- HAPPENING ON THE GROUND.
INFLUX OF DATA OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS IS GREAT.
>> Yunji: ELIZABETH, THESE CAMERAS ARE INCREDIBLE.
HECO, YOU CAN GO -- MY MOTHER LIVES ON HAWAI'I ISLAND.
I CAN SEE JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM HER HOUSE WHAT THE BEACH LOOKS LIKE IN REAL TIME.
>> IT'S A PART OF THE PACK AM OF A LOT OF NEW ACTIVITIES THAT GOING ON.
SINCE LAHAINA BURNED, AND THERE WERE OTHER FIRES THAT SAME DAY.
THERE WERE SEVERAL FIRES ON MAUI.
SEVERAL ON HAWAI'I ISLAND 39 SINCE THAT DAY IT'S ELEVATED WHAT TOOLS ARE AVAILABLE.
THERE ARE CAMERAS.
IT'S PART OF A LOT OF NEW TOOLS WE HAVE SO WE'RE ABLE TO TRACK BETTER, RESPOND.
WE WORK A A LOT WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
THEY TRACK WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THIS NEW VIG LENGTHS AND SITUATIONAL AWARENESS WHERE EVERYBODY'S KIND OF TUNED IN IS TOTALLY NEW.
BEFORE THERE WAS SO MUCH COMPLACENCY.
AND NOW IT'S MAKING IT SO MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE.
MORE TUNED IN.
THAT'S MORE PREVENTION.
WE'RE SEEING OUR PARTNERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS USING THOSE.
>> Yunji: I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S USED IN THE STALE -- STATE EXERCISE.
>> I'LL EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE SYSTEM AT WORK.
BEING NEW, I'VE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THAT YET.
SEEING ALL THE PARTNERS WORKING TOGETHER, SEEING THE COMMUNICATION GOING ON, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO EVALUATE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
>> Yunji: MOLLY, THERE'S A COMMENT HERE.
SAYS MY FAMILY AND I WERE EVACUATED AND LOST OUR HOME IN NANAKULI.
ONE THING THAT HELPED WITH INSURANCE WAS PICTURES.
TELL EVERYONE TAKE YOUR PICTURE.
THAT IS SMART.
MOST OF US HAVE A SMART PHONE.
>> THAT'S HEARTBREAKING.
MY HEART GOES OUT TO ANYBODY WHO'S LOST ANYTHING.
IT'S DEVASTATING FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THAT FAMILY IN THAT MOMENT.
WE CAN'T TO DO THE THINGS AND PREPARE.
DOCUMENTS ARE ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE IF IT GETS BURNED OR GETS WATER WARPY.
WHATEVER THAT WORD IS.
IN A FLOOD.
INUNDATION OF WATER OR DEBRIS.
THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL TO THINK THROUGH.
RANDAL MADE ANOTHER POINT.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PREPAREDNESS.
BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT HAWAIIAN ISLANDS ARE UNIQUELY SITUATED AND WE'RE SO DEPENDENT UPON IMPORTS AND PORTS, WE ARE TALKING A LOT ABOUT INDIVIDUAL PREPAREDNESS.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
WE CAN'T CONTROL SPEED OF THE SHIPS COMING HERE OR WHAT'S ON THOSE CONTAINERS MIDWAY THROUGH THE OCEAN.
WHEN WHEN GET THE REPORT, RED CROSS AND ALL PARTICIPATES ARE GEARING UP WAY BEFORE IT IS A THING BECAUSE WE KNOW WE NEED TO BE PREPARED.
AT THE AMERICAN AMERICAN RED CR, RESILIENCE.
MAKING SURE WE'RE READY.
LOOKING AT PREPOSITIONED SUPPLIES TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYONE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY SERVED AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
WE ARE STAGED AND STRATEGIC AND THOUGHTFUL TO RESPOND.
WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> I WOULD ADD IN THAT WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND OUR EMERGENCY PLANS WITH DEPENDENT ON THE FACT THAT INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES ARE GOING TO PREPARE FOR THEMSELVES.
SO IT'S TIED TO EVERYBODY DOING THEIR PART.
NOT OUR PLANS RESPECT FOR WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE FOR EVERYONE.
OUR PLANS ARE WE'RE GOING TO PREPARE FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES.
>> WHEN YOU BRING UP THE WORD RESILIENCE, I'M BUMMED ON PART OF MY ANSWER.
WHAT DO YOU DO IF YOUR NEIGHBORS.
I WISH I LED, DID YOU ASK IF YOU CAN HELP THEM?
WE HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING FULL-TIME PARENTS.
THAT IS WHY IT IS THE INDIVIDUAL BUT IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT YOU'RE LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS.
YOU ARE ACCEPTING HELP.
GIVING HELP.
MAYBE SURE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO NEED A RIDE.
IF YOU HAVE THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND YOU KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS OR NOT.
LINK ARMS AND DO IT TOGETHER AND HELP EACH OTHER.
ALSO CAN BE PREPARED.
MAKING FRIENDS AND BEING PART OF THE SOLUTION.
THAT'S A HUGE PART OF RESILIENCE.
LIVING IN COMMUNITY AND IN HAWAI'I, A LOT OF FOLKS ALREADY NOW HOW-TO-DO THAT WELL.
WE WANT TO BE INTEGRATED.
>> WE TALK ABOUT THE FIRE-WISE PROGRAM.
HAWAI'I HAZARDS PROGRAM AT THE STATE LEVEL BUILDS THESE COMMUNITY GROUPS, NEIGHBORHOOD.
A VALLEY COMES TOGETHER.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE WAY IN OR OUT.
WE SHOULD NO EVERYBODY.
WHAT RESOURCES WITH HAVE.
HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH EVERYONE.
AND IT IT FEEDS INTO THE STORM READY PROGRAM.
AND THEY HOST COMMUNITY FAIRS AT THE LOCAL MALL OR DIFFERENT VENUES.
YOU CAN GET INFORMATION.
GET THOSE BOOKS YOU CAN TAKE HOME TO REPLACE WHAT YOU LOST.
>> Yunji: WE DON'T WANT TO MEET OUR NEIGHBORS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A POWER OUTAGE.
THERE'S A CALLER FROM HILO A QUESTION FOR JOHN.
ARE THE SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURE BE LEE -- BELOW NORMAL, NORMAL?
WE'RE VULNERABLE TO CHANGES IN CLIMATE.
CURIOUS TO KNOW ABOUT OUR OCEAN TEMPERATURE.
>> RIGHT NOW THIS SUMMER, ONE OF THE BIG CLIMATE DRIVERS, WEATHER PATTERN, EL NINO WE'RE NEUTRAL.
LA NINA, WE HAVE A QUIETER SEASON.
WE'RE NEUTRAL THIS SEASON.
THAT'S JUST LOOKING AT OCEAN TEMPERATURES RIGHT ON THE EQUATOR.
NEAR HAWAI'I WE'RE A LITTLE BIT ABOVE NORMAL.
WITH WARMER OCEAN TEMPERATURES NEAR HAWAI'I, HURRICANES TRACK AT HIGHER LATITUDE AND COULD BE MORE IMPACT 68.
>> Yunji: A DIFFERENT QUESTION FROM HILO.
ASKING ABOUT PETS.
ARE THERE PET-FRIENDLY SHELTER IN HILO?
I WOULD ASK ACROSS THE STATE.
PEOPLE ARE RELICK TANT TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF PETS.
>> SHELTERS ARE OPEN TO ANYONE, ANY PETS.
WE WORK WITH PARTNERS, HUMANE SOCIETY.
TO MAYBE SURE WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY.
WE SIGNED SIGNED A MOU WITH A RH OWNER.
THAT IS PETS -- BUNNIES DOGS, CATS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE DO COME WITH THEIR KNEELED -- NEEDS WITH THEIR PET.
CAGES AND LEASHES.
AND A DISASTER AND YOUR EVACUATION CENTER IS NEVER COMFORTABLE.
BUT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
YOU'RE SAFE, FED.
YOU HAVE A WARM PLACE.
YOU ARE OKAY.
LIFE MATTERS.
UNFORTUNATELY SOMETIMES WE LOSE THINGS BUT THOSE CAN BE REPLACED.
FAMILY PEOPLE AND FAMILY AND FRIENDS CANNOT.
I TOGETHERLY UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION.
>> THIS IS WHERE THE PRE-PLANNING FOR YOUR EVACUATION AND SHELTER AREA ARE IMPORTANT.
IF YOU HAVE LIVESTOCK, DO YOU HAVE A PLAN TO GET THE TRAILER?
DO YOU HAVE IT SET UP?
DO YOU HAVE YOUR CAT CARRIER?
THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF YOUR FAMILY EVACUATION PLANNING.
WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO?
SHELTERS ARE A LAST RESORT.
YOU WANT TO THINK THROUGH YOUR FIRST CHOICE OF OPTION.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT TWO-WEEK SUPPLY.
SOMETIMES THAT INCLUDES PET FOOD.
WE'RE GOING TO PRIORITY TIES HUMANS BUT IF YOUR FAMILY HAS A PET AND YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THEM TO A SHELTER, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A NECESSARY SUPPLY FOR YOUR PET.
>> THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO DIFFERENTIATE.
THERE IS CONFUSION.
HOW TO PREPARE FOR FIRE?
YOU NEED TO BE OUT THE DOOR LEVEL SO YOU'RE NOT PART OF THAT EVACUATION TRAFFIC.
SHELTER IN PLACE OR BE AT A SHELTER OR HAVE YOUR TWO-WEEK SUPPLY IS DIFFERENT.
HAVING TO KNOW WHICH THING, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF IT.
IT'S A BIG ASK BUT BIGGER ASK TO GO WITHOUT IT.
UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY TO PREPARE.
>> Yunji: EXERCISES ARE GOING TO HAPPEN NECESSARY WEEK.
THAT SCENARIO PLANNING, IT TAKES YOU THINKING THROUGH THIS.
WHAT WOULD I DO?
SO THOSE QUESTIONS AND ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS IS SUPER IMPORTANT FOR THOSE TAME - TABLE TOP EXERCISES.
HAVING IT BE A REGULAR PART OF THE MAKESUP IS IMPORTANT.
>> Yunji: ALL OF THE THINGS WE'RE TICK, THROUGH, PEOPLE ARE SO BUSY.
I'M ALREADY DOING SO MUCH.
I GOT TO GET MY KID HERE AND THERE.
I'M DOING TWO JOBS.
I DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR A TWO-WEEK EXTRA SUPPLY.
PEOPLE WHO DO THE BEST IN SANDY, WHAT DID THEY DO?
WHAT CAN WE LEARN THAT WE HERE IN HAWAI'I CAN LEARN FROM WHAT THEY DID?
PEOPLE WHO SURVIVED THE BEST?
>> HONESTLY I DIDN'T RUN INTO THEM BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T THERE.
THEY FOLLOWED THE DIRECTION OF THE GOVERNMENT.
I WAS IN LONG BEACH OF THOUGH FOLLOWED ORDERS AND WENT INLAND AND STAYED AWAY UNTIL POWER RECORM -- RE150U78 ABOUT TWO WEEKS LATER.
I REMEMBER WORKING WITH THE LONG ISLAND POWER AUTHORITY.
THEY WERE TELLING ME THIS SIB STATION WAS FLOODED AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE TWO WEEKS TO BE REBUILD.
I SEE SUBSTATIONS HERE AND OUR SUPPLY CHAIN PROBLEMS WE HAVE BECAUSE WE'RE SO FAR AWAY.
IF IT TOOK TWO WEEKS IN NEW YORK, HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKES HERE?
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE PREPARED.
THEY SAID IT WAS A HURRICANE TWO YEARS AGO AND NOTHING HAPPENED.
WHEN WE SAY IT'S TIME TO BE PREPARED, IT'S TIME TO EVACUATION.
>> WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TWO-WEEK SUPPLY, DO IT SLOWLY.
IT HELPS THE ECONOMY.
THE.
IT'S THE MORE RESPONSIBILITY THING TO DO.
IF EVERYBODY FLOODS THE GROCERY STORE, THAT'S NOT HELPFUL TO EMPLOYEES.
BEING RESPECTFUL AND THINK ABOUT HOW YOU CAN DO IT SLOWLY.
IT ALSO HELPS THE ECONOMY AND HELP'S EVERYBODY'S POCKETBOOK.
IT IS A BURDEN BUT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL.
THERE'S A COST BENEFIT.
>> Yunji: PATTY FROM KULA AND ERIC.
SINCE YOU DO SO MANY COMMUNICATIONS, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?
WE USED TO WORK LOCAL COVERAGE BUT CUT THE CORD ON CABLE.
IS REALTIME AVAILABLE?
PATTY SAYS WHAT SHOULD YOU DO IF YOU HAVE NO WAY TO COMMUNICATE INNAGE EMERGENCY?
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO US?
>> FIRST QUESTION, THERE'S A LOT OF STREAMING ALL THE LOCAL STATIONS USUALLY STREAMING LIVE.
THE REAL ISSUE IS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE COMMUNICATION.
THERE'S NO INTERNET.
RADIO.
BROADCAST RADIO.
A.M., F.M.
RADIO IS A GREAT WAY TO GET INFORMATION.
NOAA WEATHER RADIO IS ANOTHER OPTION.
THAT NORMALLY 24/7 BROADCAST CURRENT CONDITIONS.
DURING SEVERE ALERT, FLASH FLOOD WARNING.
>> FOR EVERY COUNTY, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.
ON HAWAI'I ISLAND IT'S CIVIL DEFENSE.
IF YOU SIGN UP YOU CAN GET ALERTS IN REALTIME.
OUR EMERGENCY MANAGERS USE.
SO I TRAVEL A LOT ACROSS THE STATE AND I'M SIGNED UP FOR ALL OF THEM.
SIGN UP FOR YOUR OWN COUNTY.
THERE'S AN ALERT OR WARNING.
HERE ARE WHERE THE SHELTERS ARE.
EVEN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS.
IT CAN BE A LOT OR CHOOSE WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT.
EVERY COUNTY HAS ONE.
WE HIGHLY ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO SIGN UP FOR THAT.
DURING THE EVENTS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TRUSTED SOURCE.
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO SIGN UP FOR THEIR COUNTIES.
THAT'S IS THE MOST TRUST J SOURCE OF INFORMATION.
>> Yunji: TONY SAYS I'VE SEEN PEOPLE BOARDING UP WINDOWS.
DOES THAT REALLY HELP?
>> YEAH, SURE.
IT'S IMPORTANT -- BUT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE BACKSTAGE.
THERE CAN BE COMPLICATIONS IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN.
DON'T HAVE THE THE RIGHT EQUIPMR IF IT'S IT'S JUST YOU.
SOME OF THOSE BOARDS CAN BE PRETTY BIG.
PUTTING THEM BY YOURSELF MIGHT NOT BE YOUR THING.
MAKES SURE YOU HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILIES THAT CAN HELP YOU INSTALL THE PROTECTIVE BARRIERS FOR YOUR HOME.
BY FAR, TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.
DON'T BE THERE WHILE IT'S COMING ASHORE PUTTING IT IN.
THOSE ARE THINGS YOU GET TO DO A DAY OR TWO OUT.
DON'T BOARD IT UP TOO LATE.
>> KEY IS KEEP PROTECTIVE ENVIRONMENT, IF YOU'RE COVERING IT'S WINDOWS.
SO WIND OR RAIN GET IN.
WIND GETS IN IT'S EASIER CALL DAMAGE.
SMALL PROTECTION LIKE THAT CAN HELP.
KEY IS PLAN AHEAD OF TIME.
THERE'S COMPOSITION IT OPTIONS.
YOU CAN'T WAIT UNTIL AN EVENT.
>>.
>> THAT MAKES ME THINK ABOUT FIRE.
WE HAVE FOLKS THAT START TO CLEAN UP WHILE THE FIRE IS COMING.
THE LATE EVACUATIONS OFTEN LEAD TO INJURIES OR YOU'RE STUCK IN A PLACE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE.
OR THINGS HAPPEN ON THE ROAD AND YOU'RE STUCK.
EMERGENCY RESPONDERS AND SEARCHING AND RESCUE.
FOR LOTS OF REASONS IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT STUFF GOING ON BEFORE, NOT DURING.
IF WE LIVE READY AND WE ARE RAKING AND SWEEPING ALL THE TIME.
ANDAND WE'RE SLOWLY BUILDING THE STOCKPILE.
THIS IS LIKES OUR REALITY.
BE READY ALL THE TIME THEN IT'S NOT SO MUCH OF A RUSH, RUSH.
NOW I CARE.
>> Yunji: I LIKE WHAT ALL OF YOU ARE SAYING.
THIS IDEA THAT WE BUILD IT OVER TIME.
THE WEEK BEFORE AND EVERYBODY'S AT COSTCO AT THE SAME TIME.
A LITTLE BIT -- IF YOU WERE TO PRIORITIZE?
>> START WITH WATER.
THERE'S WATER VESSELS.
SOME HAVE SPOUTS.
START WITH WATER.
AND THOSE CANNED GOODS.
BEYOND FOOD, DEFENDANT -- DEFINITELY THINK ABOUT YOUR MEDICATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BE PART WITH THOSE STOCKPILES, KNOWING THERE ARE EXPIRATION DATES.
STOCKING THE FRIDGE OR FREEZER.
THINK ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
CRANK RADIO AND ESCAPE PLAN AND SNEAKERS.
THAT ARE ESSENTIAL.
LOOKING AT YOUR OWN FAMILY'S NEEDS.
>> YOU MENTIONED MEDICATIONS.
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ONE THAT THE SUPPLY CHAIN CAN BE SIGNIFICANTLY DISRUPT THE.
OFTEN TYPES YOU CAN'T GET.
YOU'RE ONLY PRESCRIPTION THE SO MUCH.
ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO WORK WITH THEIR DOCTOR AND PHARMACY.
TALK TO IT WITH YOUR DOCTOR.
WHAT CAN BE DONE?
DOCTOR SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADVICE HOW TO GET YOUR SURPLUS FOR YOUR KIT.
>> ONE.
-- OF THE THINGS WE HAVEN'T TALKS ABOUT ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO.
TAKE A LIFE SAVING CLASS.
TAKE A CPR CLASS.
KNOW HOW TO DO THINGS THAT ARE BENEFICIAL TO YOUR NEIGHBOR, FRIENDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THOSE ARE SKILLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ALL THE TIME.
THEY COME IN HANDY IF THE EMERGENCY TEAM IS NOT ABLE TO GET TO YOU.
KNOW HOW TO WRAP A BANDAGE PROPERLY.
WHEN CHAOS HAPPENS, YOU WANT TO BE AS PREPARED AND HAVE AS MANY TOOLS TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN BE HELPFUL TO YOURSELF AND OTHERS.
>> MOST IMPORTANT REAL ESTATE IN A DISASTER AREA IS 12 INCHES BETWEEN YOUR EARS.
IF YOU TRAIN YOUR BRAIN THROUGH EDUCATION, THROUGH THE CLASSES, MAKING GOOD DECISION, WE PROBABLY LOSE MORE PEOPLE OF A DISASTER THAN DURING THE NATURAL DISASTERS IN MANY CASES.
PEOPLE MAKING BAD CHOICES.
LEARNING HOW TO REABILITY AND HOW TO ACT IN A DISASTER.
>> Yunji: JOHN, YOU EVER GET FRUSTRATED?
YOU'RE HERE EVERY YEAR TELLING PEOPLE TO DO THIS.
WE HAVE YOU EVERY YEAR.
EVEN I AM THINKING, WHAT DO I HAVE IN MY KIT.
HOW MUCH WATER DO I HAVE?
AND I TALK TO YOU AT LEAST ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
>> ONE THING THAT COMES UP IN HEAVY RAIN, PUDDLES.
MY WIFE WILL MAKE A JOKE.
SHOULD WE TURN ON?
CAR STUCK AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE STUMBLING BLOCKS.
EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT WHAT IF.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE CONS CATIONS -- CONVERSATIONS.
IT'S THE REINFORCEMENT.
THEY'LL COME ACROSS SOMETHING THAT DRIVES HOME THE POINT FOR THEM.
THEY'LL START TO BUILD UP TO THAT.
THEY'LL GET TOWARDS IT.
AND IT WILL HELPS IN THE LONG TERM.
>> Yunji: WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME.
RANDAL, WHAT TRAINING DO OUR LEADERS GO THROUGH TO MAKE DECISIONS IN DISASTERS?
>> WELL, NEXT WEEK IN PARTICULAR, AGAIN IT'S WEEK LONG, AND WE REALLY TRY TO EMPHASIZE CRITICAL DECISION-MAKING AND RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.
PRESSURE OUR LEADERS TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GET RESOURCES, WHERE TO SHARE RESOURCES.
HOW TO COLLABORATE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
WHEN ONE DIRECTOR IS FACED WITH A DECISION, WHO WILL THEY TURN TO?
THEY THINK OBVIOUSLY INTERNALLY FIRST, AND THEY'RE, WE'RE OUT OF RESOURCES.
MAYBE I CAN TURN TO THE RED CROSS OR MAYBE ONE OF THE CITY ENTITIES AND GET HELP THERE TO ACCOMPLISH WHATEVER THAT TASK OR MISSION IS IN REGARDS TO THAT.
I THINK YOU ALSO SEE THAT FROM A LEADERSHIP POINT OF VIEWERS WE START LOOKING AT POL POLICIES.
WHAT TOUGH DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE.
CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS UNDER PRESSURE.
LAST DAY OF OUR EXERCISE, WE'RE DOING A EMERGENCY OPERATION STRESS TEST.
SEE HOW WELL THEY'LL WORK WITH EVERYBODY THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THAT RESPONSE, USING ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND SEE HOW WELL THE SYSTEM HOLDS UP.
>> Yunji: WE'LL HAVE TO INVITE YOU BACK WHEN WE'RE PAU.
THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO LEAVE US.
>> Yunji: MAHALO TO YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.
AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS - NOAA METEROLOGIST JOHN BRAVENDER AND ELIZABETH PICKETT OF THE HAWAI'I WILDFIRE MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION.
HONOLULU EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR RANDAL COLLINS AND FROM THE AMERICAN RED CROSS OF HAWAI'I, MOLLY SCHMIDT.
NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS, HAWAI'I HAS ONE OF THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATES IN THE NATION.
WE'LL SEE WHAT'S KEEPING OUR RATE STEADY AND LOOK AT WHICH SECTORS OF THE WORKFORCE ARE HIRING.
JOIN US AS WE EXAMINE HAWAII'S JOB MARKET.
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