Insights on PBS Hawai‘i is sponsored by Carlsmith Ball University of Hawaii Cancer Center and Aloha State Daily >> WE'RE LESS THAN A MONTH AWAY FROM THE PRIMARY ELECTION AND VOTERS WHO LIVE IN HONOLULU'S URBAN CENTER, WILL BE ELECTING A NEW STATE SENATOR.

FIVE DEMOCRATS WANT TO SERVE CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICT 13 WHICH ENCOMPASSES SEVERAL COMMUNITIES INCLUDING NU'UANU, PAUOA, PUNCHBOWL, IWILEI AND CHINATOWN.

BUT THEY'LL NEED TO ADVANCE TO THE GENERAL ELECTION FIRST.

TONIGHT'S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI'I START NOW.

>> Daryl: ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI'I...I'M DARYL HUFF.

AFTER SERVING TEN YEARS IN THE STATE HOUSE AND TEN YEARS IN THE STATE SENATE, KARL RHOADS IS MOVING ON AND HIS SENATE SEAT IS A MAJOR POLITICAL PRIZE...AND THE COMPETITION IS FIERCE.

DISTRICT 13 COVERS AN AREA THAT SPANS FROM UPPER NU'UANU TO PUNCHBOWL, DOWN TO LILIHA, IWILEI AND CHINATOWN.

TONIGHT'S CANDIDATES ARE TRYING TO MOVE ON THE GENERAL ELECTION TO FACE A REPUBLICAN OPPONENT.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW.

YOU CAN EMAIL OR CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS.

AND YOU'LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAII YOUTUBE PAGE.

NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.

LYNN VASQUEZ IS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE KALIHI, CHINATOWN, PU'UNUI AND PALAMA AREA.

SHE'S SERVED ON THE KALIHI-PALAMA NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD SINCE 2008 AND IS CURRENTLY VICE-CHAIR.

SHE IS ALSO THE CO-FOUNDER OF THE SLIPPAH FOUNDATION NONPROFIT.

TRICIA NAKAMATSU HAS LIVED AND WORKED IN SENATE DISTRICT 13 FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.

HER CAREER BEGAN AS A DEPUTY CORPORATION COUNSEL.

SHE THEN WENT ON TO SERVE FOR 13-YEARS AS A DEPUTY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY AND IS CURRENTLY A DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL.

JAMES LOGUE IS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE HAWAII NATIONAL GUARD YOUTH CHALLENGE ACADEMY.

HE'S A COMBAT VETERAN, SERVING IN THE ARMY AS A MILITARY POLICE OFFICER.

HE WAS ALSO A SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES.

AND JORDAN KAPONO NAKAMURA IS A FOURTH GENERATION NU'UANU NATIVE.

HE'S WORKED IN EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR TWO DECADES, INCLUDING AS A TEACHER, PROGRAM DIRECTOR.

>> Daryl: LEI AHU ISA IS ANOTHER DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE RUNNING IN THIS RACE.

SHE ACCEPTED OUR INVITATION TO PARTICIPATE TONIGHT BUT INFORMED US THIS WEEK SHE WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND.

I'LL START WITH TRICIA NAKAMATSU.

WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO RUN FOR OFFICE?

I THINK A COUPLE OF YOU RAN BEFORE BUT THIS IS A FIRST TIME.

>> YES, THIS IS A FIRST FOR ME.

I'M RUNNING BECAUSE I'M A WORKING MOM AND PUBLIC SERVANT AT HEART.

I HAVE TWO BOYS, EIGHT AND TEN YEARS OLD.

FIFTH GENERATION TO GROW UP IN THIS DISTRICT.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT.

LIKE A LOT OF FAMILIES, WE STRETCH EVERY DOLLAR, WE MAKE HARD CHOICES WITH OUR BUDGETING, BUT LIKE MOST FAMILIES, WE'RE GOOD, HARD-WORKING PEOPLE.

WE WANT TO FEEL SAFE IN OUR HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

IF I CAN BE THE VOICE, OTHER FAMILIES LIKE OURS, FOR KUPUNA, LIKE MY 95 YEAR OLD UNCLE.

WE JUST HAD A BIRTHDAY.

HE'S BEEN LIVING WITH US 16 YEARS NOW.

IT'S A BLESSING TO SEE HIM GROW WITH OUR KIDS.

IF I CAN MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SAFER AND MORE THRIVING, STRONGER ECONOMY, MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS TO STAY HERE IN HAWAI'I, AND TO HOPEFULLY HAVE THEIR OWN FAMILIES HERE AND AFFORD THEIR OWN HOUSE, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.

AS A PUBLIC SERVANT, I'VE BEEN AN ATTORNEY FOR 20 YEARS AND SERVING NOT ONLY IN THE COURTROOM BUT THE LAST 15 YEARS I'VE BEEN A PROSECUTOR.

HALF TIME IN THE COURTROOM.

>> Daryl: MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO TALK ABOUT OUR BACKGROUND.

LYNN, HOW ABOUT YOU?

WHAT'S THE MAIN REASON YOU DECIDED TO RUN?

>> I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THE AREA.

I'M 70 YEARS OLD.

I'VE SEEN WHAT IT WAS WHEN I WAS BORN THERE.

I PLAYED IN THE AREA IN AALA PARK.

MY BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS IS IN THAT AREA.

I STARTED MY NONPROFIT AT MAYOR WRIGHT HOUSING.

I GAVE AWAY OVER 100,000 SLIPPERS.

I RAISED MY KIDS, WENT TO McKINLEY HIGH SCHOOL.

MY KIDS WENT TO McKINLEY HIGH SCHOOL.

I'VE BEEN ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARDS FOR 18 YEARS.

I LIVE IN WAENA.

IN THE HEART, I CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY A HOME.

I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO SERVE MY COMMUNITY.

I LOVE THE COMMUNITY WHICH I LIVE.

I'M A KUPUNA.

I'M A DIALYSIS PATIENT.

I KNOW THE SUFFERING OF THE SENIORS.

I KNOW THE STRUGGLES OF WHAT IT IS TO KEEP WORKING.

I'M 70 YEARS OLD AND STILL WORK.

MY HUSBAND STILL WORK, AND IT'S JUST A DAILY STRUGGLES OF EVERYDAY PEOPLE.

I'M A NORMAL PEOPLE.

SHE SAYS SHE'S NORMAL BUT SHE GRADUATE PUNAHOU SCHOOL.

I GRADUATE McKINLEY HIGH SCHOOL.

>> Daryl: LET ME GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE.

MAJOR MAJOR,-- JORDAN?

HOW ABOUT YOU?

>> I REALLY FEEL IT'S KULEANA TO MY COMMUNITY AND HAWAI'I AS A WHOLE TO REALLY PUT ALL OF MY ENERGY INTO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE LEADERSHIP THAT IS ABLE TO CREATE CHANGE.

THAT IS ALLOW HAWAI'I, FAMILIES TO ACTUALLY STAY HERE.

I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT MOVED AWAY BECAUSE I FELT THAT I COULDN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.

WENT AWAY FOR SCHOOL AND WORK.

I HAD THIS FANTASY I'M GOING TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY ONE DAY AND COME BACK.

AS A TEACHER IN LOS ANGELES, WHEN I SAY WHAT HAPPENED WITH RED HILL.

I ASSUMED PEOPLE WERE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

LIKE A YEAR PASS THE, AND ERNIE LAU WAS TALKING ABOUT WE NEED TO HAVE THESE THINGS DONE.

I WAS WATCHING THE LEGISLATION TALKING LONG TO RESPOND.

I WAS WATCHING IN THE YEARS PRIOR TO THAT THE COST OF LIVING GOING UP.

AND I REALIZED THERE'S NO MORE IMPORTANT USE OF MY TIME AND ENERGY THAN TO COME HOME.

SO I RETURNED, I IMMEDIATELY GOT STARTED WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZING IN HAWAI'I.

AND ALL OF MY ENERGY WAS TO CREATE THE CONDITIONS.

SO WE CAN LIVE HERE AS PEOPLE.

>> Daryl: JAMES, I'M SORRY.

>> ORIGINALLY IT STEMS FROM MY DEPLOYMENT.

THAT'S WHEN I BECAME REALLY INTERESTED WITH POLITICKINGS.

MY MISSION WAS KIND OF A POLITICAL MISSION.

WHEN I RETURNED AND WENT TO COLLEGE AND GRADUATED, I STARTED WORKING WITH THE THE HAWAI'I STATE CAPITOL.

ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED, THERE WERE A LOT OF HOMELESS FOLKS IN DOWNTOWN CHINATOWN.

I SAID HOW COME THERE'S NO BILLS TO ADDRESS THINGS LIKE MENTAL ILLNESS AND DRUG ADDICTIONS.

MY BOSS SAID NOT IN A DEROGATORY WAY, IT'S NOT HAPPENED TO ANYTHING HERE.

>> Daryl: NONE OF THE LEGISLATORS WERE HOMELESS YET.

>> YEAH.

AND A SITUATION WHERE A REPRESENTATIVE WAS ADULTS BY SOME HOMELESS FOLKS, AND YOU STARTED SEEING MORE TALK ABOUT THE HOMELESS AND WANTING TO ADDRESS IT.

AND I WORKED AS A SNAP CASE WORKER, AND I WAS DEALING DIRECTLY WITH FAMILIES, THE MENTALLY ILL, ALL THE FOLKS THAT KIND OF LIVE AROUND THE AALA PARK AREA.

YOU SEE THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING AND THERE'S NO REAL SOLUTIONS PROVIDED, SO JUST OVER TIME AND BEING ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARDS, I WANTED TO RUN BECAUSE I FET DONE -- FELT E THE IDEAS WEREN'T -- THERE'S NO REAL PLAN FOR A REAL SOLUTION.

>> Daryl: LET ME GIVE LYNN A CHANCE.

EVERYONE DOES SEEM TO BE KEYING IN ON THE COST OF LIVING ISSUE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS SOMETHING THE LEGISLATURE COULD DO TO EASE THE COST OF LIVING FOR PEOPLE?

>> GIVE US INCENTIVES FOR -- ESPECIALLY FOR THE SENIORS.

GIVE US INCENTIVES.

TAX BREAKS.

>> Daryl: TOO MUCH TAXES?

>> TOO MUCH TAXES.

TAX FOR THIS, TAX FOR THAT.

SURCHARGES.

WE GO TO THE GROCERY STORES, $20 IS NOT EVEN ENOUGH.

THE HURTING US.

>> Daryl: JORD JORD, JORDAN, YOR THOUGHTS.

OUR LIVED IN THE MAINLAND UNTIL A FEW YEARS AGO.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

YOU COMPARED IT NOW.

>> YEAH.

IT'S COMP RAM BUT THE COST OF GROCERIES COST EVER MEDICAL CARE AND MEDICINE HERE IS HIGH.

I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE GOT ON THE G.E TAX ON MED CALS.

WE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THE PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO STAY HERE TO GET WHAT WE KNOW THEY NEED TO SURVIVE.

I THINK THAT WE CAN CREATE A TAX FAIRNESS.

OUR ECONOMY SHOULD BE FUNDED BY PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY CAN AFFORD TO PAY IT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS THAT WE COULD IMPOSE A TAX ON.

MASSACHUSETTS HAS DONE THIS, AND THEY INCREASED THE AMOUNT.

>> Daryl: WE'LL GIVE JAMES A CHANCE TO RESPOND.

COST OF LIVING.

YOU WOULD SUGGEST OR SUPPORT?

>> YEAH.

THERE'S A WHOLE SLEW OF THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN.

MY MAIN CAMPAIGN ISSUE IS NO NEW OR INCREASED TAXES OR FEES.

YOU CAN'T TELL ME WE NEED TO RAISE THE GE TAX AND YOU'RE GIVING YOURSELVES GENEROUS PAY RAISES.

THAT MONEY IS NOT BEING SPENT WISELY.

WE NEED TO GIVE BREAKS TO THE WORKING CLASS, TO SENIORS, THOSE ON FIXED INCOME.

WE NEED NEED TO REEVALUATE HOW E TREAT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES.

TAX INCENTIVES, TAX BREAKS, VERY LOW INTEREST LOANS, GRANTS, THINGS LIKE THIS TO KEEP SMALL BUSINESSES OPERATING.

A LOT ARE CLOSING, AND THEY'RE FAMILY OWNED.

LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESSES.

LOCAL FAMILIES LOSING ALMOST EVERYTHING.

AND THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS HAWAI'I PAYS WELL BELOW NATIONAL AVERAGE IN WAGES CROSSED BOARD.

>> Daryl: TRICIA NAKAMATSU, YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT COST OF LIVING, ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR?

>> I THINK FOR MOST FAMILIES, THEIR BIGGEST EXPENSE EVERY MONTH IS HOUSING.

AND THERE'S A HOUSING SHORTAGE IN HAWAI'I.

TO THE EXTENT WE CAN MAKE MORE HOUSING AVAILABLE AND HOUSING PEOPLE CAN AFFORD, THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT STEP.

WITH RAIL COMING STRAIGHT THROUGH -- COMING THROUGH THE MAKAI SIDE.

DISTRICT, I THINK THAT IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE OUR URBAN DENSITY AS LONG AS WE CAN SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGH BONDED.

TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA THAT WE NEED TO LEAN INTO BECAUSE AS I'VE BEEN WALKING THROUGH THE DISTRICT, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE SUBURBAN AREAS FURTHER UP IN THE VALLEY ARE DEALING WITH MONSTER HOUSES.

IF WE CAN KEEP THOSE AREAS A LITTLE LESS CLUTTERED AND CROWDED AND KEEP IT IN THE DEPOSITIONLY POP LATED AREAS.

THERE'S OTHER BENEFITS YOU CAN HAVE BUILDINGS WITH NO PARKING.

MORE PEOPLE BICYCLING.

IT COULD HAVE A LOT OF GREAT BENEFITS INCLUDING BUILDING A COMMUNITY.

>> Daryl: LET ME GIVE LYNN A CHANCE.

YOU DON'T EVEN OWN A HOME.

>> NO, NEVER DID.

LUCKILY MY CHILDREN HAD TO MOVE FROM HAWAI'I TO LIVE ON THE MAINLAND TO OWN HOMES.

WE NEED TO TRY TO KEEP OUR CHILDREN HERE.

THE COST OF LIVEING IS HIGH THEY MOVE TO THE MAINLAND.

I CAN'T OWN MY HOME.

>> Daryl: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE LEGISLATIVE SOLUTION IS?

MORE HOUSING, SPECIALIZED HOUSING?

>> I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE ONLY ONLY -- RENT CONTROL AND INCENTIVES.

WHERE WE CAN RENT TO OWN.

YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME KIND OF PROGRAM.

WE HAVE SENIOR HOPES.

HAVE COMKIND OF PLANS FOR SENIORS, EVEN FOR ME MAYBE THERE'S HOPE THAT WE CAN STILL BUY A HOME.

>> Daryl: EVEN AT YOUR AGE?

>> AT MY AGE.

>> Daryl: JAMES, IS THERE ONE FIX THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE?

>> WE ALL KNOW THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TERM AFFORDABLE IS USED.

THERE ARE THINGS THE STATE COULD DO SUCH AS LIKE GIVING STATE LAND, 99 YEAR LEASE.

CUTTING DEALS AND BREAKS FOR DEVELOPER TO BUILD REALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND PROVIDING LIKE TRISH WAS SAYING WITH THE BONDS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST COSTS.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE REGULATION ON BUILDINGS.

THERE WAS AN ARTICLE THAT SAID REGULATION OF DEVELOPERS IS 340 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS TACKED ON TO THE COST.

WE NEED TO PROVIDE INCENTIVE FOR SENIOR HOUSING.

LAST I CHECKED, WAITING LIST WAS 14,000 PEOPLE.

FIND A WAY BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IS THE HOUSING IS BEING OCCUPIED BY THE SENIORS, WHEREAS IN THE PAST, SENIOR WOULD MOVE INTO SOME SORT OF CARE HOME, LIVING COMMUNITY AND THAT HOUSE -- >> Daryl: BIG EMPHASIS IN HAVING SENIORS STAY IN THEIR HOMES.

JORDAN, YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOUSING.

A LOT MORE ROOM ON THE MAINLAND.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE.

>> RIGHT.

WE'RE WORKING ON SOME THINGS WITH EXPANDING HOUSING, THAT ARE GOING TO ADD ABOUT 11,000 MORE UNITS.

YOU CAN CREATE MORE COMMUNITY-BASED INPUT.

LIKE SENATOR STANLEY CHANG ARE WORKING ON MODEL MODELS IN SING.

WE HAVE PATHWAYS FOR LOCAL PEOPLE TO USE THIS NEW HOUSING.

THAT'S THE BILLION BOTTOM LIKE.

BUILD MORE AND NEED TO BE INCENTIVIZED FOR LOCALS.

THAT'S CREATING PROGRAMMING FOR FOCUSED.

LIKE DHHLHLHL EXPECT IT'S FOR LL PEOPLE.

>> Daryl: HOUSING AROUND RAIL.

SOME AFFORDABLE.

KAKAAKO, THERE'S LOTS OF VACANT UNITS.

TRICIA, YOUR THOUGHT BETWEEN SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND VACANT CONDOS, THERE MAY BE QUITE A LOT OF HOUSES OUT THERE.

>> YES.

I NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THIS BEFORE.

I RECENTLY FOUND OUT THERE'S HIGHER TAX.

PROPERTY TAX IS UP TO THE CITY.

THERE'S A HIGHER TAX FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SECOND PROPERTIES.

NOT THE HOUSING YOU'RE LIVING IN.

PERHAPS THAT NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED.

OR THERE'S INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE TO OFFER LONG-TERM RENTALS.

TO LET THAT HOUSING BE AVAILABLE TO LOCALS AT A PRICE THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD.

>> Daryl: HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE HOUSING STOCK EXISTS.

>> I'M TOTALLY AGAINST FOREIGN INVESTORS.

I'M GOING TO FIGHT IF I GET IN.

AGAINST FOREIGN INVESTORS IN OUR DISTRICT.

I BELIEVE WE SHOULD KEEP IT FOR OUR LOCALS.

IT'S TOTALLY EMBARRASSING ALREADY.

MOST OF OUR PEOPLE DON'T HAVE IT.

IT HAS TO STOP.

WE HAVE TO MAKE LEGISLATION WHERE OUR LAND, OUR -- GOES TO OUR PEOPLE.

IT HAS TO STOP.

>> Daryl: ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OB HOUSING ISSUE?

>> YEAH.

I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH KAKAAKO, THESE ARE LUXURY APARTMENTS.

THEY'RE BASICALLY GETTING SUBSIDIZED.

AND THEY'RE EMPTY.

IT'S NOT ONLY THIS IS FROM AN ENTIRE ECONOMIC SITUATION.

WE SAW THE SALE OF THE WARD CENTER.

YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE LIVING THERE.

YOU DON'T HAVE EMPTY HOMES BUYING LOCAL.

AND THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT OWN THESE BUILDINGS, THEY'RE STILL MAKING MONEY OFF EMPTY BUILDINGS.

THEY'RE STILL COLLECTING MONEY.

WE SHOULD BE TAXES THAT TO FUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MIXED USE HOUSING AND SOCIAL HOUSING.

>> Daryl: EVE IWILEI.

THE CITY CONSOLIDATED A BUNCH OF PROPERTY.

THAT'S ALSO LIKE THE SOCIAL SERVICE HUB FOR THE AREA.

HOW DO YOU SEE THAT BALANCING OUT IN THE LONG RUN?

>> YEAH.

I THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS SERVICES WILL HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THE AREA.

THE LAND AROUND THE RAIL, PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING TO GO UP.

I FEEL BACK WHO LIVE IN THE AREA.

THEIR PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE ROOF.

AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IS LACK OF LONG-TERM PLANNING THAT A LOT OF THESE GOVERNMENT LEADERS HAVE.

SERVICES LIKE IHS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE.

THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO WHATEVER AREA.

KALIHI IS ONE OF THE LAST WORKING CLASS COMMUNITIES WE HAVE.

THEY ARE BEING PUSHED OUT.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THOSE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES?

>> Daryl: TRICIA NAKAMATSU, YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT, BIG CHANGES THAT ARE COMING WILL AFFECT SOCIAL SERVICE AND EXISTING HOMEOWNERS.

A LOT WAS THINGS.

WHAT KIND OF THINGS ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT COMING IN.

>> I THINK THAT IS IT ACTUALLY PRESENTS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REIMAGINE WHAT OUR COMMUNITY COULD LOOK LIKE AND TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A LARGER SCOPE URBAN PLANNING.

I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'VE SPOKEN WITH OR TO WHAT EXTENT.

THEY MAPPED OUT EVERYTHING ALREADY.

>> Daryl: GOT TO BE A CITY PROJECT.

>> IT IS.

>> Daryl: YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE THE CITY AND STATE ARE COOPERATING ENOUGH?

>> NO.

>> Daryl: WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT?

SCATTERED -- >> I'M ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARDS, AND EVERYTHING THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE MAYOR WRIGHT HOUSING PLANNING, CONDOMINIUMS, BUILDINGS COMING UP.

>> Daryl: THERE'S A BUNCH OF HIGH-RISERS.

>> PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING, AND KUHIO PARK TERRACE, THEY'RE SUFFERING.

IT'S A BUNCH OF MESS.

THEY GOAL -- GET THE CONSTRUCTIN CREW KING FROM THE MAINLAND.

WE DON'T HAVE LOCAL GUYS GETTING THE JOBS.

>> Daryl: IS THAT YOUR IMPRESSION, TOO, JAMES.

ONE HAND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER IS DOING WHEN IT KINGS COO PLANNING.

>> YEAH.

WHEN THEY DRAW THESE PLANS AND IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL ON PAPER.

AND WHEN THEY IMPLEMENT IT, IT'S A REGULAR.

THERE'S NO LONG-TERM PLANNING.

KIND OF LIKE THE BIKE LANES.

THEY LOOK NICE ON PAPER.

YOU GO ON THE ROAD AND THERE'S PILENS MISSING.

PAINT IS ALL FADED AWAY AND MISSING.

IT ALONGS GOOD ON PAPER BUT IN REALITY, THERE'S NO PLANNING ON HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT.

WITH THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S GOING TO DO DAMAGE TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA WHO CAN'T NECESSARILY REVAMP THEIR HOME OR MOVE.

>> Daryl: LET ME GIVE JORDAN A CHANCE.

YOU SEE DISRUPTION COMING?

>> WE NEED TO HAVE AN AWARENESS FROM BOTH THE CITY AND STATE THAT THIS IS A CRISIS.

WE CAN TREAT IT LIKE A CRISIS AND CONVENE LIKE HOW WE DID WITH COVID.

THERE WAS A SPECIAL SESSION CALLED.

HOUSING IS A CURRENTLY EMERGENCY.

SO WE CAN CONVENE THE CITY AND STATE TO COME TOTAL AND TREAT THIS AS IT NEEDS TO BE MEET.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO IS URBAN DESIGN INITIATIVES, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE HOUSING COMPETING WITH SOCIAL SERVICE.

WE CAN COMBINE.

YOU HAVE SOCIAL HOUSING, WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE GETTING SERVICES RIGHT IN THE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE DESIGNING.

YOU CAN HAVE RESIDENTS DESIGN THE BUILDINGS.

THIS IS PART OF THE MODEL.

>> Daryl: TRICIA, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?

>> I DO THINK THAT HONOLULU IS PERHAPS LONG OVERDUE FOR A COMPREHENSIVE URBAN PLANNING, TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN MOVE INTO THE 21ST CENTURY AND ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE, HOUSING, SERVICES.

MAINTAINING THE VIEWS THAT WE TAKE PRIDE IN THAT HAS BEEN PART OF OUR HERITAGE AND CULTURE IN HAWAI'I.

>> Daryl: ALL OF A SUDDEN, I HAVE A TON OF QUESTIONS.

I WANT TO RESPECT OUR VIEWERS 39 I ALMOST FEEL LIKE GOING RANDOMLY AND GRABBING ONE.

SAYS, HOPEFULLY TRICIA NAKAMATSU HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEND BEING A PUNAHOU GRAD AND UNFAIR STATEMENT THAT COMES WITH IT.

I MYSELF HAVE ONCE OR TWICE MADE COMMENTS.

I'M A PUBLIC SCHOOL KID MYSELF.

DO YOU THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE?

MAYBE YOU'RE OF ALL OF YOU YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND, IS THAT SAFE TO SAY?

IS IT A PROBLEM OR OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO STAND OUT?

>> SO A COUPLE THINGS.

I THINK HAVING A PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND IS AN AN ASSET.

HALF THE YEAR I'VE BEEN DOING LEGISLATIVE WORK.

FOR 15 YEARS, I HAVE BEEN LEARNING TO BRING GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TOGETHER WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, NONPROFITS, PRIVATE SECTOR TO REALLY TALK TO EACH OTHER, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY NEED TO WORK ON.

TO SOLVE PROBLEMS, TO GET THINGS DONE.

I THINK THAT I'VE DEVELOPED IN THE COURSE OF MY WORK AS A LAWYER FOR THE STATE, AND THE COUNTY, I'VE DEVELOPED THE SKILLS TO WRITE GOOD LAWS AND NAT GAVE THE LEGISLATIVE SYSTEM.

>> Daryl: WHAT THIS BRINGS UP IS HOW WOULD EACH OF YOU -- EACH OF YOU GAVE ME A BIO.

HOW WOULD YOU BACKGROUND BE THE BEST PERSON TO REPRESENT THE DISTRICT?

YOU GUYS ARE REPLACING KARL RHOADS, A PARTICULAR KIND OF LEGISLATOR.

HE WAS AN ATTORNEY BUT VERY INTERESTED IN CIVIL RIGHTS AND CORRUPTION.

>> NOBODY CAN REPLACE KARL.

HE HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR OUR STATE.

WE ALL BRING EACH OF US HAVE OUR OWN IDEAS OF WHAT WE CAN BRINGS.

EACH OF US IS SPECIAL.

WE HAVE IN OUR MIND OUR HEART, OUR COMMON GOAL IS HELP THE COMMUNITY.

I HAVE 18 YEARS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARDS.

THAT'S WHAT I BRING.

I BRING MISE HEART -- MY HEART AND SOUL.

>> Daryl: JORDAN, YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE DO YOU THINK CONTRIBUTES TO THAT?

>> AS A TEACHER, YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN THINGS TO PEOPLE AND LEAD AND GUIDE.

DIFFERENT LEVELS OF LEARNING AND DEVELOPMENT LEVELS OF PEOPLE TOWARD A COMMON GOAL.

WHO WE WANT TO SEE PEOPLE BECOME.

ALSO AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, THIS IS WHY YOU START SEEING -- WE RALLIED THE PUBLIC TO LEARN ABOUT BILLS.

OFTEN TIMES THEY'RE NOT WRITTEN FOR COMMON FOLKS.

THIS IS ON PURPOSE.

YOU NEED FOLKS WHO ARE IN GRASSROOTS ORGANIZING.

HOW DO WE RALLY THE PUBLIC?

SOMETIMES WE KNOW THE LAWMAKERS DON'T WRITE THEIR OWN BILLS.

SOMETIMES THEY GET THE BILL.

THEY'RE NOT SURE WHAT IT MEANS.

>> Daryl: IT'S A LOT OF WORK.

JAMES, LET ME GIVE YOU A CHANCE.

YOU'RE A VETERAN.

WHAT DOES THAT IN PARTICULAR BRING TO THE LEGISLATURE THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM ANOTHER LEGISLATOR?

>> I WOULD ARGUE IT BRINGS LEADERSHIP AND COMPETENCE.

I ALSO THINK I GREW UP IN THE CRUST INDUSTRY.

AYE WORKED IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY AND HOSPITALITY.

AYE WORKED HOURLY WAGES SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO MISS WORK.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE HAVE, A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE LEGISLATOR HAVE BEEN GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES OR GROWN UP IN THE GOVERNMENT SYSTEM, FAMILIES ARE IN THE GOVERNMENT.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE REAL EXPERIENCE OF HOW THE ECONOMY ACTUALLY WORKS.

THESE FOLKS ARE MAKING ECONOMICS POLICY, WHICH IS WHY WE SEE SMALL BUSINESSES CLOSING.

I FEEL I BRING A WELL-ROUNDED -- >> Daryl: I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET TO QUESTIONS.

MONICA, INTERESTING YOU MENTIONED NEW PEOPLE IN.

WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE.

NOW IT'S OPEN AND PEOPLE WANT TO STEP UP.

WHICH IS GREAT.

IDEA OF TERM LIMITS HAVE BEEN TOSSED AS ONE WAY TO BRING TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY.

DO YOU SUPPORT?

WHY OR WHY NOT?

JAMES.

>> 100%.

IF THE GOVERNOR AND MAYOR AND PRESIDENT ARE GOING TO HAVE TERM LIMITS, THERE SHOULD BE TERM LIMITS.

WHEN SOMEBODY IS EMBEDDED FOR SO LONG, THEY'RE GETTING CHECKS FROM LOBBYISTS.

A LOT OF LEGISLATORS ARE THERE R A DECADE BUT NEVER PASSED A BILL.

TO GET FRESH FACE AND NEW ROTATION, THERE SHOULD BE TERM LIMITS.

>> >> Daryl: TRICIA.

>> I DON'T THINK.

OUR SYSTEM IS BUILT SO VOTERS IN EACH DISTRICT GET TO CHOOSE WHO REPRESENTS THEM.

THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE -- HAVING DONE THE LEGISLATIVE WORK SO LONG, IT CAN TAKE YEARS TO PASS A GOOD BILL.

PERHAPS IT NEEDS TWEAKS.

PERHAPS IT WASN'T THE RIGHT TIMING.

IT CAN TAKE YEARS TO PASS A GOOD BILL.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE MONUMENTAL CHANGE, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE SYSTEMIC CHANGE, THE LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

LECLENGTH OF TIME THEY HAVE TO K MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

VOTERS IN RECENT YEARS ESPECIALLY, WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF INSTANCES WHERE VOTERS ARE VOTING OUT INCUMBENTS.

THEY FEEL THEY'RE BETTER REPRESENTED BY SOMEBODY WHO'S A FIRST TIME CANDIDATE.

>> Daryl: IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATE HOUSE, A LOT OF TURNOVER.

AVERAGE AGE IS 20 YEARS LOWER THAN SENATE.

LYNN?

>> I BELIEVE IN TERM LIMITS.

I THINK WE NEED NEW IDEAS MAYBE ONE OR TWO.

AFTER THE SECOND, GIVE ANOTHER PERSON A CHANCE FOR NEW IDEAS.

>> Daryl: JORDAN.

>> TERM LIMITS ARE A GOOD IDEA.

I DON'T HAVE PLANS TO OVERSTAY MY WELCOME IF LECKED.

LEC -- ELECTED.

VOTERS DATE FEEL THEY HAVE POWER.

INCOME BAN SI IS SO STRONG IN HAWAI'I.

I THINK THAT HAS TO DO WITH CORPORATE LOBBYISTS.

THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH OF THAT IN THE RECENT ELECTION.

WE SEE CORPORATE INFLUENCE BUYING ELECTIONS, THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

WE KNOW THAT CORPORATE LOBBYISTS DON'T HAVE TERM LIMITS.

>> Daryl: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KARL RHOADS CHAMPIONED IS SEPARATE NEW CONTROLS ON CORPORATE MONEY.

>> IT'S NOT A SILVER BULLET THAT'S GOING TO FIX EVERYTHING.

WE WANT TO MOVE TO PUBLICLY FUNDED ELECTIONS.

FOLKS WITH IDEAS, THAT IS WHAT GETS YOU ELECTED.

>> Daryl: IN KAILUA ASKS HOW DO WE DEAL WITH CORRUPTION, WE SIGH IT SO OFTEN IN THE NEWS.

TRICIA, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

IS THERE A -- IS THERE A LOT OF CORRUPTION, FIRST OF ALL?

WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HELP?

>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND IS WE MIGHT NOT BE SURE.

THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT NEW FACES ARE BEING ELECTED INTO OFFICE EVERY SESSION, TO THE EXTENT THAT VOTERS I BELIEVE ARE THE THE ULTIMATE DECIDER OF WHO THEY WANT TO REPRESENT THEM?

SADDEST THING IS IF SOMEBODY -- IF THEIR TIME TERMED OUT BUT THEIR CONSTITUENT LOVED THEM, THAT WOULD BE A VERY SAD THINGS.

>> Daryl: THEY CAN HOP TO THE COUNCIL AND HOP BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE.

>> A LOT OF THE -- REBUILDING THAT TRUST HAPPENS FACE TO FACE.

HAVING KNOCKED ON THOUSANDS OF DOOR.

THEY WANT TO SEE US, WHETHER IT'S ON PHONE, E-MAIL, TOWN HALL.

>> Daryl: I JUST GOT STARTED WITH CORRUPTION.

[LAUGHTER] SO MANY QUESTIONS HERE.

LYNN, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT?

>> CORRUPTION.

LIKE YOU SAID, KARL WORKED HARD FOR THAT CITIZENS THING, AND UNFORTUNATELY IT TAKES EFFECT JULY 12027.

TOO BAD WE DIDN'T HAVE IT NOW.

I'D SIGN A PAPER THAT I WON'T GO OVER 41,000.

I THINK OTHER GUYS DID THAT TOO.

TRISH RAISED OVER 85,000.

HE'SSHE'S THE SECOND LARGEST INE STATE THAT RAISED THAT.

WHERE DOES IT END?

>> Daryl: WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

ACCUSING HER -- >> I'M NOT ACCUSING HER.

WE HAVE A SENATOR THAT WORKED HARD FOR THAT.

>> Daryl: LEVEL GIVE TRICIA A CHANCE TO RESPOND.

YOU'RE A GOOD FUNDRAISER SOUNDS LIKE.

>> THE VAST MAJORITY OF MY DONATIONS WAS $50 OR LESS.

THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL OR THEIR FAIR YOUS ABOUT ANYTHING.

I HAVE BEEN WORKING AS A LEGISLATIVE LIAISON FOR 15 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STATE ORGANIZATIONS, NONPROFITS AND ALL OF THEM I THINK APPRECIATE THE WORK I'VE DONE.

THERE IT'S A ONE DOLLAR, $50, I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN OUTPORK OUTPOURING OF S. I HAVE WORKED VERY HARD.

>> Daryl: LET ME GI -- GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

HOW MUCH DO YOU FEEL YOU OWE THOSE PEOPLE WHO GAVE YOU?

>> PARTICULARLY THE 8 UNIONS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT I SPOKE WITH THAT DID ENDORSE ME THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM.

I HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY CLEAR TO THEM -- AND THIS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH WITH -- INCONSIT WITH THE WAY I CONDUCT MYSELF.

I WOULD HAVE AN OPEN DOOR AND EAR.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE ON FRONT LINES ARE GOING TO LIVE WITH OR IMPLEMENT LAWS THAT WE PASS.

WE NEED TO KNOW FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO LIVE IT AND WORK THROUGH IT HOW IT'S GOING TO DO AFFECT THEM.

>> Daryl: YOU BROUGHT UP EARLY IN THE FIRST OPENING.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> Daryl: SURE.

>> OPEN DOOR AND OPEN EAR BUT NO.

[INDISTINCT] >> ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO REALIZE IS I DON'T THINK THAT VOTERS ARE UNSURE THAT THERE'S CORRUPTION.

WE HAVE CREATED AN ECONOMY THAT WORKS PRIMARILY FOR A SELECT GROUP OF SPECIAL INTEREST, CORPORATE ENTITIES IN HAWAI'I.

SORT OF LIKE REHASHING DYNAMICS WE'VE SEEN IN THE PLANTATION AREA.

WE'RE SEEN SO MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE FAVOR OF DEVELOPMENT DEALS.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT -- I THINK THAT YEAH, KARL RHOADS HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK TO CURB THAT.

WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO TOWARDS PUBLICLY FUNDED ELECTIONS.

I'VE DONE SOMETHING IT YEAR SIGNING THE OUR HAWAI'I PLEDGE, COMMITTED TO NOT TAKING CORPORATE DONATIONS NOT NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.

THEY SEPTEMBER IT -- SENT IT TO EVERY CANDIDATE AND ONLY 33 SIGNED IT.

>> Daryl: JAMES.

>> I THINK THE ISSUE WITH THE CORRUPTION, FOR ME I RUN FOR OFFICE BEFORE.

I NEVER GET UNION ENFORCEMENT OR MONEY.

I'M OUTSPOKEN ABOUT CORRUPTION.

THE MACHINE CONTINUES TO SUPPORT THE COGS THAT GO INTO THE MACHINE THAT KEEPS IT RUNNING.

AT SOME POINT I FEEL VOTERS ARE GOING TO SAY WE NEED TO SWITCH OFF FROM THIS SUPPORT TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WHILE I DON'T GET UNION ENDORSEMENT, UNION DOES BECAUSE THEYFIELD THEY FEEL THE PAIN.

UNION WON'T PERPETUATE THE SYSTEM THAT'S KEEPING THEM WEALTHY.

MEMBERS WANT TO HELP.

PUBLICLY FUNDED ELECTIONS, IF CANDIDATES DON'T NEED TO GO TO UNIONS TO BEG FOR MONEY, IF IT'S JUS SOMETHING LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARDS WHERE EVERYONE GETS MAILED A BIO AND THINGS ABOUT THE CANDIDATE.

IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE CANDIDATES DON'T HAVE TO GET MONEY FROM PEOPLE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MOSH IT WOULD BE E TO THE POLITICAL PROCESS.

>> Daryl: LAST WORD.

IF YOU HAVE MONEY, THAT'S NOT GOOD.

LAST WORD ON THAT.

DO YOU FEEL YOU'VE ANSWERED THAT.

>> IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MONEY PERSONALLY, I HAVE VERY LITTLE.

MY FAMILY'S NEVER BEEN RICH.

WITH REGARDS TO RAISING THE MONEY OR FUND-RAISING FOR THE CAMPAIGN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING INHERENTLY BAD.

WITH A DISTRICT LIKE OURS, THINGS LIKE MAILING, THEY COST MONEY.

AND KARL RHOADS, WHO I ABSOLUTELY RESPECT AND I THINK HE SAID A LOT OF THINGS AND STANDS FOR PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY.

>> Daryl: LET ME MOVE ON.

SAFETY IN YOUR DISTRICT IS A BIG ISSUE.

NO WE.

CRIME.

PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO GO TO SOME PARTS OF YOUR DISTRICT.

LYNN, IS THERE A SOLUTION, ESPECIALLY FROM THE STATE SIDE?

A LOT OF TIMES CRIME IS A COUNTY ISSUE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE MAJOR REASONS FOR CRIME?

>> WE HAVE SHOOTING EVERY SO OFTEN.

DRIVE-BY ON THE HIGHWAYS.

WE CAN'T GO WALKING IN CHINATOWN AFTER 6:00 IN THE EVENING.

WE NEED MORE PATROLS BUT THAT'S THE CITY AND COUNTY.

WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO GET POLICE -- BUT THAT'S AGAIN WITH THE CITY.

SO WE NEED TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE CITY.

>> Daryl: JORDAN, CRIMES.

>> ROOT CAUSES OF CRIME ARE PRETTY WELL KNOWN.

WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RENT, HIGHEST COST OF GROCERIES.

WE ARE MAKING PEOPLE DESPERATE AND SEEING PEOPLE RESORT TO THESE MEASURES.

IF WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON THAT AND PROVIDE HOUSING FOR FOLKS AND LOWER COST OF LIVING, THEN WE'RE GOING TO SEE A REDUCTION.

THIS IS LIKE NOT SOMETHING THAT'S UNCLEAR, RIGHT.

IF YOU REDUCE THE NEED FOR PEOPLE TO RESORT THIS, WE WILL SEE REDUCTION IN CRIME.

PROVISION OF THIS HOUSING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS A PRIORITY FOR CRIME.

AND I THINK FOR A LOT OF FOLKS, THEY SEE THE VISIBLE CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS AND THINGS ARE GOING ON.

PEOPLE ARE WANTING POLICE TO TAKE CARE OF.

NOT THAT POLICE WANT TO GO AND DO THESE THINGS.

THEY'RE NOT TRAINED FOR IT.

WE NEED TO SEE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES PUT TO THAT USE.

WE HAVE RESOURCES.

JOHN A. BURNS CARE HOME ACT AND INVESTMENTS SO WE HAVE MOBILE CARE UNITS.

>> Daryl: I NEED TO GIVE HIM A CHANCE.

CRIME, WHAT ARE THE DRIVERS AND WHAT'S THE SOLUTION?

PARTICULAR THE TYPE OF CRIME YOU SEE IN YOUR DISTRICT.

>> A LOT OF MENTAL ILLNESS, DRUG ADDICTIONS AND SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS OF PEOPLE IS INFLUENTIAL WITH HOW THEY INTERACT IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

THE WAY THE LAWS ARE WRITTEN, THEY CATER TO MUCH TO THE CRIMINALS.

VERY HARD TO GET PROSECUTIONS BECAUSE THE A.G.

'S OFFICE DON'T WANT TO TAKE CASES THEY KNOW THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITH.

IT'S VERY HARD BECAUSE THE BURDEN IS SO HEAVY ON THE STATE TO PROVE SOMEONE IS GUILTY.

TO SEE THAT ACROSS THE BOARD APPROXIMATE IF.

IF YOU TALK TO THE COUNTY PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE.

LAWS ARE CATERED TO CRIMINALS.

REVAMPING THE LAWS, RELOOKING AT THEM.

AS A STATE SENATOR, HAVING THE ABILITY TO VOTE ON THE APPOINTMENT OF JUDGES.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I'M RUNNING.

>> Daryl: THAT'S WHERE IT HAPPENS.

>> I'M NOT A FAN OF CATCH AND RELEASE.

>> Daryl: YOU'VE BEEN A PROSECUTOR.

DO YOU AGREE THAT THE LAWS MAKE IT TOO HARD TO PROSECUTE?

>> THAT'S KINDS KIND OF A LOADED QUESTION.

NO.

>> Daryl: YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT QUESTION.

>> I WOULD NOTE THAT PROSECUTORS ARE ETHICALLY BOND TO CHARGE IF -- >> Daryl: NOT THE PROSECUTOR.

IF THE PROSECUTOR LOOKS AT THE LAW, THE WAY THE 8 THE WAY THE S WRITTEN.

DO YOU THINK THE LAWS THEMSELVES COULD BE CHANGED IN A WAY THAT YOU COULD DETER MORE CRIME?

>> YES.

EVERY YEAR THE PROSECUTORS COME IN WITH A PACK PACKAGE OF BILLSY FEEL WOULD MAKE LAWS CLEARER OR MAKE IT FOR APPROPRIATE.

IT'S NOT TOO OFTEN THAT THEY TRY TO CHANGE THE SENTENCES.

THEY'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE OF LAW.

LIKE ALMOSTS ELEMENTS OF LAW.

WITH REGARD TOES QUESTIONS ASKED BEFORE, CRIME, WE SEE A LOT OF REVOLVING DOOR.

IN RECENT YEARS WE WERE ABLE TO PASS HABITUAL PROPERTY CRIME.

PROSECUTEPROSECUTORS ARE BEING E ON WHICH OFFENDERS THEY PROSECUTE.

IF YOU HAVE THREE LOW LEVEL CRIME -- SO PEOPLE CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND GET THE OVERSIGHT PROBATION SO SOMEBODY IS MONITORING THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON THE STRAIGHT PATH AFTER THAT.

WHETHER IT'S MENTAL HEALTH OR SUBSTABS ABUSE HEALTH.

>> Daryl: I'M GOING TO CHANGE THE SUN.

I'VE GOT ALL THESE QUESTIONS.

I TRY TO LOOK AT THESE AND SAY HOW MANY OF THE SAME QUESTIONS I HAVE.

COUPLE ABOUT MARIJUANA.

LEGALIZING OR DOING MORE FOR DISPENSARIES.

LYNN, MY GUESS IS YOU'RE NOT AN EXPERT ON MARIJUANA?

>> I'M NOT.

AS A PATIENT, I'M A KIDNEY DIALYSIS PATIENT.

I CAN'T TAKE MARIJUANA BECAUSE I WILL TAKE A TRANSPLANT.

IF I COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO BECAUSE I NEED PAIN MEDICINE.

>> Daryl: YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RECREATIONAL?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT BECAUSE IT HELPS PEOPLE.

>> Daryl: JORDAN, MEDICAL MARIJUANA OR RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA, WHERE DO YOU STAND?

>> I KNOW AND HAVE BEEN A PATIENT OF MED 8:00 MEDICAL MED.

A LOT OF PEOPLE BEVED.

-- BENEFITED.

SOME FOLKS GOT OFF OPEN OPEN 0E.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO REGULATE THIS PROPERLY.

I LIVED IN CALIFORNIA.

I WOULD WANT TO SEE SOMETHING WHERE WE SEE THE BENEFITS AND NOT THE NEGATIVES.

BENEFITS, THIS HAS BEEN RETITLED.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S INEVITABLE BUT YOU WANT TO DO IT RIGHT.

WE COULD CREATE TAX REF REVENUER THAT.

AND INSTEAD OF IT BEING THIS BUSINESS VENTURE.

IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS EVERYBODY.

>> Daryl: JAMES, YOUR THOUGHTS.

WHERE DO YOU FIT?

>> FOR ME, RECREATIONAL IS FINE FOR ME.

IF IT'S REGULATES LIKE CIGARETTES.

I DON'T WANT TO BE STANDING OUTSIDE MY FAVORITE RESTAURANT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE 9 SMELL.

WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO IN YOUR HOME IS FINE.

>> Daryl: TRICIA, YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT IT?

>> I DISAGREE WITH LEGALIZING.

I THINK OUR MEDICAL MARIJUANA -- AND THEY ARE STILL GETTING UPDATES AND K3WR06789S.

PEOPLE WHO NEED IT AT THIS POINT FOR THE MOST PART AND MORE CHANGES COULD BE MADE TO EXPAND CERTAIN TOYING KNOW DIAGNOSIS.

IT'S SAFER IF IT COMES FROM A DISPENSE SI.

ON THE MAINLAND, WE'VE SEEN BENEFITS FROM STATES WHO LEGALIZED IT AND THEY SEE INCREASES IN CRIME.

BLACK MARKET IS A BIG CONCERN.

AND BIG TOBACCO COMING IN.

IT'S HARD TO KEEP IT TO SMALL BUSINESSES.

>> Daryl: CONTINUE ON.

COUPLE PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT LEGALIZING GAMBLING IN HAWAI'I.

THERE'S A WHOLE LOT THE CHOICES.

I SAW AN AD THE OTHER DAY THAT SAID DRAFT KINGS AVAILABLE IN 350 350 50 STATES.

>> I'M IN SUPPORT OF LEGALIZED GAMBLING IF WE DIDN'T SPECIALIZE ZONES OR EVEN -- SORRY.

LIKE A CRUISE.

A CRUISE -- >> Daryl: OR SPECIFIC CASINO PLACE?

>> YEAH.

SORRY.

THE PROBLEM WITH LEGALIZING GAMBLING IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CREATE ANOTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO OVER SEE IT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE VERY COSTLY.

I WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE COST OF THAT WOULD BE BEFORE FULLY LEGALIZING BACK GAMBLING F OR KA CASINOS.

IF YOU WANT TO LEGAL LEGALIZE DT KINGS, THAT'S FINE.

>> I THINK IT'S NECESSARY.

WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW MARKET, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CORPORATIONS TO STIE FON MONEY.

THERE IS LIKES A GAMBLE WORKING GROUP THAT'S SUPPOSED TO REGULAR LATE SOME BILLS THAT WERE GETTING PROPOSED.

THERE WAS NO, FOR EXAMPLE, NATIVE HAWAIIANS UNTIL IT WAS SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED.

I HAD A FRIEND WHO HAD TO BANG ON THAT DOOR TO GET IN THAT ROOM.

-- >> Daryl: KIND OF RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

DO YOU THINK THAT SOME FORM OF GAMBLING IS OKAY AND WHAT FORM OF GAMBLING WOULD YOU SUPPORT.

>> IF YOU OPEN UP A MARKET LIKE GAMBLE, IT SHOULD BENEFIT HAWAI'I.

AND WHEN WE SEE NEW MARKETS OPEN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HALF.

IF YOU CAN GUARANTEE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH OVERSIGHT, IT COULD BE BENEFICIAL.

>> Daryl: LYNN.

>> I DON'T SUPPORT GAMBLING.

IT WILL CREATE A MONSTER.

>> Daryl: TRICIA.

>> I DON'T SUPPORT LEGALIZED GAMBLING.

THERE'S STUDIES SHOWING SOMETHINGS LIKE CASINOS AND ONLINE SPORTS BETTING A VERY CLEAR PATTERN BECAUSE IT WAS LEGALIZED BY THE SUPREME COURT A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

IT LEADS TO INCREASE IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, IT'S NOT WORTH IT.

TYPICALLY THE LOWER ECONOMIC -- POORER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SUFFER MORE SO THAN ANY OTHER AREA OF SOCIETY.

>> Daryl: QUESTION FROM A VIEWER.

ALSO GOT A LOT OF ASPECTS TO IT.

DO YOU SUPPORT BUILDING A NEW 1KWR5EU78 ON JAIL ON OAHU?

NOTHING HAPPENS -- >> I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SPEND THAT AMOUNT.

I THINK THE CONDITIONS.

ARE TERRIBLE.

IF YOU BUILD A NEW JAIL, YOU WILL FILL IT WITHOUT ADDRESSING WHY.

PART OF IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A CASH BAIL SYSTEM.

THESE ARE LEGALLY INSPECT FOLKS- INSPECT FOLKS HELD BECAUSE THEY'RE POOR.

IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS YOU'RE HAVING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE CONTINUESES.

>> Daryl: TRICIA, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE SITUATION WITH JAMS AND PRISON?

>> I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY LONG OVERDUE FOR BUILDING A NEW JAIL.

AS FAR AS THE SIZE, WHETHER *U79 TO PLAYING IT BIGGER OR SAME SIZE, WE NEED TO UPDATE.

TREATMENT FACILITY.

PERHAPS COURTROOM.

SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THINGS MORE EFFICIENT AND LIVEABLE AND MODERN FOR PEOPLE.

>> I THINK WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR PRISON SYSTEM.

I WAS ON THE AIEA NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD, AND I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO UPDATE.

>> Daryl: IS OCCC IN YOUR DISTRICT?

>> IN THE KALIHI-PALAMA.

>> Daryl: JAMES, YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT PRISON.

>> YEAH, I SUPPORT BUILDING.

YOU HAVE TO.

EVENTUALLY OCC IS GOING TO BE AT A POINT WHERE WE DIDN'T USE IT.

>> Daryl: THIS MAY BE OUR LAST QUESTION.

>> THAT WAS FAST.

>> Daryl: AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN PONDER.

IF YOU WIN, HOW WILL WE REMEMBER YOU?

RICK FROM PAUOA.

LYNN, IF YOU WIN AND YOU SPEND YOUR TIME IN THE LEGISLATURE AND RETIRE, WHAT DO YOU HOPE FEATURE WILL LOOK BACK?

>> I HAD A DAUGHTER WHO WAS A POLICE OFFICER.

I COULDN'T PUT HER IN THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE SHE KNEW THE LAWS.

I HAD TO WAIT UNTIL SHE WAS CRITICAL AND SHE DIED.

MY FIRST WOULD BE TRY TO CHANGE LEGISLATION HOE TO HELP THOSE CRITICAL.

SO WE CAN PUT THEM BEFORE THEIR CRITICAL.

>> Daryl: JAMES, 15, 20 SECONDS ON THAT.

>> I'D LIKE TO BE REMEMBERED AS AN ARCHITECT OF A BETTER ECONOMY FOR FAMILIES IN HAWAI'I.

>> Daryl: TRICIA.

>> I WOULD -- BACK TO THE PUNAHOU COMMENT.

I WOULD WANT TO BE REMEMBERED AS SOMEONE FROM THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE COMMUNITY.

MY FAMILY STARTED AS LOW-INCOME HOUSING FAMILY.

NO ONE IN MY FAMILY'S BEEN RICH.

I'VE BEEN WORKING SINCIVE 15.

I WORKED THREE JOBS IN COLLEGE.

I WORKED ALL THROUGH LAW SCHOOL AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WORK ETHIC, THAT LEVEL OF INTEGRITY CARRIED ME THIS FAR.

>> I MOVED BACK TO-MY GRANDPARAMEDICSPARENTS.

I WANT TO PROTECT ALL THESE PEOPLE AND LAND AND AINA.

HELP AND PRESERVE HAWAI'I FOR GENERATIONSES TO COME AND ALLOW EVERY GENERATION TO LIVE HERE.

>> Daryl: THIS DISTRICT HAS A GREAT CHOICE OF FOLKS.

AND I WANT TO THANK THE VIEWERS AT HOME.

AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS - THE DEMOCRATIC CANDITES FOR STATE SENATE DISTRICT 13... LYNN VASQUEZ AND JAMES LOGUE.

AND TRICIA NAKAMATSU AND JORDAN KAPONO NAKAMURA.

NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS, WITH LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR SYLVIA LUKE DECIDING NOT TO RUN FOR RE-ELECTION AMID AN ONGOING STATE INVESTIGATION, SEVERAL CANDIDATES ARE LOOKING TO FILL HER SEAT.

WE'LL TALK WITH TWO OF THE DEMOCRATIC HOPEFULS, LOOKING TO ADVANCE TO THE GENERAL ELECTION.

PLEASE JOIN US THEN.

I'M DARYL HUFF FOR INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI'I.

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