NAVIGATING THROUGH UNCHARTED WATERS.

THAT'S THE TASK AT HAND FOR TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, PARENTS AND STUDENTS, WHO JUST STARTED THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR.

THE BACK AND FORTH OVER WHAT'S CONSIDERED SAFE IN THE CLASSROOM HAS LED TO A DEBATE OVER IN PERSON INSTRUCTION OR STICKING WITH DISTANCE LEARNING.

JOIN THE DISCUSSION ON "WHAT'S IT GOING TO TAKE": BACK TO SCHOOL DURING COVID 19.

TONIGHT'S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVE STREAM OF WHAT'S IT GOING TO TAKE ON INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII START NOW.

¶¶ ALOHA WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII.

I'M DARYL HUFF.

ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII...I'M DARYL HUFF.

THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT DURING THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC.

LUNCH BOXES HAVE BEEN REPLACED WITH LAPTOPS AND FACE MASKS AND HAND SANITIZER ARE NOW ON THE SCHOOL SUPPLY LIST.

THERE'S ALSO THE DEBATE OVER IN PERSON INSTRUCTION, DISTANCE LEARNING OR BOTH?

AND IF AND WHEN STUDENTS AND TEACHERS HEAD BACK TO CAMPUS, HOW DO THEY STAY SAFE?

OUR PANEL TONIGHT INCLUDES ADMINISTRATORS, TEACHERS, A PARENT AND STUDENT AS WE ASK, "WHAT'S IT GOING TO TAKE: BACK TO SCHOOL DURING COVID 19."

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW.

YOU CAN EMAIL, CALL OR TWEET YOUR QUESTIONS.

AND YOU'LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAII FACEBOOK PAGE.

NOW, TO OUR GUESTS WHO ARE ALL APPEARING VIA THE INTERNET.

CATHERINE PAYNE IS THE CHAIR OF THE HAWAII BOARD OF EDUCATION.

SHE IS A RETIRED EDUCATOR WHOSE CAREER SPANNED MORE THAN 35 YEARS.

PRIOR TO RETIRING SHE WAS THE PRINCIPAL AT FARRINGTON HIGH SCHOOL.

COREY ROSENLEE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HAWAII STATE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION, THE UNION REPRESENTING MORE THAN 13 THOUSAND PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS ACROSS THE STATE.

HE'S ALSO A TEACHER AT CAMPBELL HIGH SCHOOL IN WEST OAHU.

MITCHELL OTANI IS STARTING HIS 11TH YEAR AS THE PRINCIPAL OF KALANI HIGH SCHOOL.

PRIOR TO THIS HE WAS PRINCIPAL AT KANEOHE ELEMENTARY FOR 19 YEARS.

FROM KAUAI TONIGHT IS KEVIN MATSUNAGA.

HE'S ENTERING HIS 28TH YEAR OF TEACHING AND IS CURRENTLY AT CHIEFESS KAMAKAHELEI MIDDLE SCHOOL IN LIHUE.

KIM EKIMOTO IS A PARENT OF THREE CHILDREN AGES 8, 12 AND 16.

ALL OF THEM ATTEND PUBLIC SCHOOLS ON OAHU.

AND TAYLOR MCCANN IS A STUDENT WHO JUST STARTED HER JUNIOR YEAR AT WAIAKEA HIGH SCHOOL IN HILO ON HAWAII ISLAND.

WE'VE BEEN UNDERWAY FOR 10 DAYS OR SO IN SCHOOL.

LET ME JUST GO AROUND AND FIND OUT HOW IT'S GOING.

START WITH YOU TAYLOR.

HOW ARE THINGS GOING WITH YOU AS A STUDENT FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS OF SCHOOL?

HOW HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR SCHOOL?

>> WELL, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A BIG CHANGE.

CLASSES ARE A LITTLE BIT WEIRD.

IT'S HARD TO BE SOCIAL WITH NEW PEERS.

WHEN I GO TO SCHOOL, VOCAL, BACK TO SCHOOL REALLY FUN BECAUSE WE GET TO KIND OF CHAT WITH EACH OTHER WHILE PAYING ATTENTION TALK ABOUT HOW OUR SUMMER, WHAT'S GOING ON, KEEPING UP WITH OUR LESSONS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS ONLINE.

UNMUTE YOUR MIC AND SAY SOMETHING TO YOUR FRIENDS KIND OF DISRUPTS THEM.

ONLY TEN DAYS IN.

BUT GOOD JOB.

DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB STAYING INVOLVED.

A LOT OF HOMEWORK ALREADY.

BEEN TRYING TO IT KEEP IN TOUCH WITH MY FRIENDS OVER SOCIAL MEDIA.

HELP EACH OTHER WITH ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT.

ROCKY START.

SO FAR I THINK I'M DOING OKAY.

PARENT OF THREE KIDS, HOW HAS IT BEEN?

YOU MUST BE GOING CRAZY.

>> IT'S NOT AS CRAZY AS I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE.

WITH A STRESSED ME OUT MORE WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF GOING FACE TO FACE AND WITH THEIR STARTING OF THEIR SCHOOL DAYS, IT'S STAGGERED.

SO IF MY ELEMENTARY STUDENT IS NEEDING TO LOG IN AT 8:00, AND I'M STILL DROPPING OFF MY MIDDLE SCHOOLER, HOW WOULD I GET THEM ONLINE IF WE'RE STILL COMMUTING IN THE VEHICLE?

THIS WAS THE FIRST WEEK WE REALLY GOT OUR TOES WET INTO CLASSES.

THE TEACHERS HAVE BEEN GREAT.

THEY'RE ENCOURAGING.

THEY'RE REALLY, I THINK, BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO HOW OUR CHILDREN HAVE BEEN FEELING EMOTIONALLY TOO.

SO I'M REALLY THANKFUL FOR THEM TO PAY ATTENTION.

JUST THE CURRICULUM.

>>Daryl: AFTER SO MANY MONTHS WITHOUT COMMUNICATION, WITHOUT SOCIALIZATION, HOW ARE YOUR KIDS DOING GETTING BACK TO SCHOOL?

ARE THEY EXCITED ABOUT IT?

>> THEY'RE EXCITED.

THEY MISS THEIR FRIENDS.

THE JUST A DIFFERENT, A CHANGE.

I DO FEEL FOR SOME OF THE CHILDREN.

I NOTICE THAT SOME OF MY CHILDREN'S CLASSMATES, HOME ALONE, EVEN AT THE YOUNG ELEMENTARY AGE.

SO I JUST, I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW THEY'RE MANAGING AND HOW THE PARENTS ARE FEELING.

HAVING TO LEAVE THEM TO JUST KIND OF DO THIS ON THEIR OWN.

>>Daryl: THAT IS KIND OF REALLY SAD.

TEACHER ON KAUAI, HOW ARE THINGS GOING FOR YOU AS A TEACHER?

>> THIS YEAR AS BEEN DEFINITELY THE MOST STRESSFUL OF MY CAREER.

A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD PROBABLY SAY THE SAME THING.

A LOT OF US JUST HAD TO COMPLETELY CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE'RE DELIVERING INSTRUCTION.

PRETTY MUCH OVERNIGHT.

AND WE HAVE TEACHERS THAT ARE OLDER AND MAYBE NOT AS TECHNOLOGICAL SAVVY AS OTHERS.

SO THE TECHNOLOGY PART HAS BEEN DIFFICULT.

IT'S JUST BEEN REALLY REALLY STRESSFUL.

>>Daryl: COULD YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE TECHNICAL CAN CHALLENGE FOR A TEACHER?

WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS.

WHAT'S IT LIKE?

WHAT'S YOUR DAY LIKE, TYPICAL DAY?

>> WELL, DEPENDS ON YOUR SCHEDULE.

CERTAIN DAYS WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED LEARNING WE HAVE LESSONS THAT ARE POSTED INTO OUR GOOGLE CLASSROOM.

STUDENTS ON THEIR OWN WILL GO AND ACCESS THE LESSON AND DO THINGS ON THEIR OWN.

SECOND DAY SHOW UP FOR A CALL LIKE THIS, ALL LOG IN, ON THEIR COMPUTERS, SO IT'S BEEN TOUGH FOR TEACHERS TO HAVE TO LEARN THE TOOLS TO RECORD THEMSELVES AND TO KEEP THE LESSONS ENGAGING AT THE SAME TIME IT'S NOT JUST PUTTING I CAMERA ON YOURSELF AND TALKING TO YOUR STUDENTS.

IT'S MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

BRINGING IN OTHER RESOURCES.

HAVING ACTIVITIES FOR KIDS TO DO.

ALL OF THAT TAKES TIME.

A LOT OF THE THAT REQUIRE AS A LOT OF EFFORT AND A LOT OF LEARNING NEW SKILLS.

IT'S BEEN TOUGH.

>>Daryl: WHAT IS THE CHALLENGES FOR A SCHOOL PRINCIPAL THIS TIME OF DAY?

, THIS TIME OF ERA?

>> A LOT OF IT HAS DO WITH HAVING TO MAKE PLANS AND THEN CHANGE DIRECTION AND PIVOT ON DEPENDING WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE AND THE NUMBERS RISING.

I THINK WE WERE VERY READY TO OPEN TO DO IN PERSON TEACHING AND HYBRID TYPE OF MANNER WITH OUR KIDS.

AND THEN THE NUMBERS STARTED SPIKE.

SO IT'S BEEN VERY CHALLENGE.

WE HAVE TO CHANGE PLANS.

BUT YOU KNOW, I'M LUCKY.

SURROUNDED BY VERY GOOD TEACHER AND STAFF.

ABLE TO ADJUST TO THE DIFFERENT CONDITIONS.

WE'RE ABLE TO ADAPT IN THIS GROWING PANDEMIC.

THE KEY WORD I GUESS FOR US IS FLEXIBILITY.

WE TRY OUR BEST TO BE VERY, VERY FLEXIBLE.

IN ADAPTING TO WHATEVER THE CONDITIONS ARE.

>>Daryl: YOU ALSO, AS A PRINCIPAL, HAVE TO DEAL WITH TEACHERS, SOME TEACHERS JUST DON'T WANT TO COME BACK TO SCHOOL BECAUSE OF THEIR SAFETY ISSUE.

KALANI, I MEAN, I WENT THERE.

WE TENDED TO HAVE SENIOR TEACHERS.

I DON'T MEAN SENIOR CITIZENS BUT THEY WERE OLDER.

VERSUS THE YOUNGER GO GETTER ONES JUST WANT TO GET IN THE CLASSROOM.

DID YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF MANAGEMENT IN THAT RESPECT?

>> YOU KNOW, WITH REGARDS TO TEACHERS, THEY ALL PRETTY MUCH WANTED TO COME BACK AND WORK WITH THE KIDS.

AND THEY MISS SEEING THE KIDS.

WE DO HAVE SOME THAT HAVE SOME CONDITIONS THAT WILL FACTOR IN.

BUT AGAIN, THE DEPARTMENT HAS WORK PROGRAM GUIDELINES FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.

I BELIEVE THAT TELEWORKING IS IMPORTANT TOOL TO HELP EMPLOYEES BALANCE WORK AND QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS.

FOR US, REQUEST FOR TELEWORK AT SCHOOLS HANDLED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

DECISIONS MADE ON CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH EACH AFFECTED STAFF MEMBER.

WHAT HE DO, TRY TO FOCUS ON CONVERSATION AND FOCUS OF THE CONVERSATION IS NOT ON THE WHY.

BUT I THINK ON WHETHER THE INDIVIDUAL CAN FULFILL THE JOB REQUIREMENTS.

IF MAKE THOSE DECISION, PRINCIPALS LOOK FOR WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE STUDENTS AND EXAMINING WHETHER THERE ARE ANY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCE.

LEADS TO YOU OF THE REPRESENTING TEACHER TELEWORK ISSUES.

WE'VE BEEN SEEING CONVULSIVE EVERY DAY.

ALMOST EVERY DAY, SOME SORT OF CONVULSIONS.

AFTER TEN DAYS.

HOW DO YOU FEEL MOST OF YOUR TEACHERS ARE DOING WHETHER IT COMES TO THIS NEW NORMAL OF TEACHING ONLINE?

>> I THINK PUT IT RIGHT.

TEACHERS ARE STRESSED OTHER LAYER OF THREAT OCCURS, I APPRECIATE THAT MITCH IS ALLOWING HIS TEACHERS TO TELEWORK BUT WE HAVE SCHOOLS AND CONFERENCE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE IN THE ALLOWED TO TELEWORK.

TEACHERS ARE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THEIR SAFETY.

THEN YOU HAVE SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS THAT SOME OF THEM ARE STILL IN CROWDED CLASSROOMS AND THEY JUST KEEP ON LOOKING AT WHEN THE MAYOR SAYS, IF YOU CAN WORK AT HOME, WORK AT HOME.

THEY'RE NOT GIVEN THIS OPPORTUNITY.

AND THEY'RE PUT INTO UNSAFE CONDITIONS AND THEY KEEP ON SAYING, THIS ISN'T FAIR, ISN'T SAFE.

ANOTHER LAYER OF STRESS OCCURRING.

>>Daryl: I'M GOING TO ASK, 13,000 OR SO TEACHERS THAT YOU REPRESENT.

VAST MAJORITY OF THEM EMBRACING THIS CHALLENGE AND COMING TO WORK AND ENJOYING WORK AND SUCCEEDING AT WORK?

>> PROFESSIONALISM OF TEACHERS IN THIS CONDITION HAS BEEN AMAZING.

I MEAN, YOU SHOULD THE CREATIVITY THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT IN AND HAVING TO LET RALLY REINVENT THE WHEEL WHEN IT COMES TO TEACHING.

WORKING HARDER THAN EVER BEFORE.

FRUSTRATING BELIEVE BECAUSE WE'RE DISTANCE LEARNING, THEY'RE NOT WORK HARD.

THEY'RE WORKING HARDER THAN EVER BEFORE.

>>Daryl: I SAVE YOU FOR THE LAST OF THIS ROUND ROBIN.

YOU'VE HAD PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE CONVULSIVE CHAIR OF THE SCHOOL BOARD.

OVERSEEING HOURS OF LONG MEETINGS.

BIG PICTURE, HOW DUE FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING GIVEN ALL THE CURVE BALLS YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS?

>> THINK THE CHALLENGE OF THE SCHOOL BOARD IS THAT WE DON'T GET ENGAGED IN THE NITTY GRITTY HOW THINGS ARE ROLLED OUT.

SO MUCH OF THE CONCERNS COMING OUR WAY, PEOPLE EXPECT US TO BE RESPONSIVE AND WE'RE TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE AND ALSO, RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF REALLY IMPORTANT PRIORITIES AS A BOARD AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

ONE, NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WAS THE SAFETY AND THE HEALTH OF AND AT ADULTS ON THE CAMPUS.

EVERYTHING ELSE FALLS UNDER THAT.

SECOND OF COURSE, AND ALMOST AS HIGH A PRIORITY, IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EDUCATE THE MOST VULNERABLE CHILDREN.

I WAS DISTURBED BUT UNDERSTAND WHAT KIM WAS SAYING, THAT OUR FAMILIES THAT HAVE HAVING TO LEAVE THEIR CHILDREN ALONE NOW, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR LEARNING ON THEIR OWN, I THINK THAT IS A HUGE CONCERN.

I THINK THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

IN OUR SOCIETY.

THAT ARE REALLY BEYOND THE CAPABILITIES OF THE SCHOOLS TO HANDLE.

THE TRAUMA THAT FAMILIES ARE EXPERIENCING WILL COME TO SCHOOLS.

TRAUMA THAT TEACHERS ARE EXPERIENCING COME TO TEACHERS.

THEIR WORLD BEYOND THE CLASSROOM IS ALSO A CRITICAL WORRY FOR THEM.

MANY LAYERS OF ISSUES.

CORY TOUCHED ON THEM.

WE'RE AWARE OF THEM.

TEACHERS ARE DOING AMAZING THING RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE TO HONOR THAT BUT ALSO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE CHALLENGE OF THE TIME THAT THAT ARE IN.

>>Daryl: KIM AND TAYLOR, QUESTION FOR THE STUDENT AND PARENT.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE AMOUNT MUCH WORK YOU'RE BEING GIVEN?

TAYLOR, YOU SAID YOU HAVE A LOT OF HOMEWORK.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE A LOT DIFFERENT OR CEREMONY DIFFERENT FROM CLASSROOM, DO YOU THINK THE TEACHERS MAKE UP FOR THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT SEEING YOU BY PUTTING A LOT OF WORK ON YOU?

I'M CURIOUS.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR HOW YOUR KIDS WORKLOAD IS WORKING OUT.

TAYLOR, GO FIRST.

WELL, I CAN'T SAY FOR OTHER SCHOOL.

HIGH SCHOOL, GOING TO ONLINE VIRTUAL GOING MEET CLASSES EVERY DAY AND DIFFERENT KIND OF SCHEDULE WHEN WE'RE IN PERSON.

I'M NOT IN PERSON BUT SEEING MY TEACHERS SAME AMOUNT OF TIME I WOULD BE SEEING THEM IN SCHOOL.

I DON'T THINK I'M GETTING ANY MORE WORK THAN I WOULD BE IN SCHOOL.

TO MAKEUP FOR ME NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE THEM.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO THINK THE WORK IS A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN SUCH A LIKE NEW WAY.

I DO A LOT OF WORK ONLINE.

THIS DAY AND AGE, EVERYTHING IS ONLINE.

I KNOW MY WAY AROUND, GOOGLE DOCS, SLIDES, KHAN ACADEMY.

FREE WIPE, TAKE NOTES, SOME OF MY TEACHERS REQUIRING WE DO THAT STUFF ONLINE TO MONITOR WHAT WE'RE DOING.

KIND OF STRANGE, STRANGE CONCEPT DO THAT.

>>Daryl: EXPLAIN TO ME.

LISTENING TO A LESSON.

TYPING NOTES.

AND THEY'RE SEEING YOUR NOTES IN REAL TIME ON THEIR COMPUTER?

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

>> SOME TEACHERS HAVE BEEN LECTURING AND THEY HAVE OWN NOTES THEY SHARE WITH US.

SOME LECTURING LETTING US TAKE NOTES ON OUR OWN, PENCIL PAPERS.

A LOT OF MY TEACHERS WANT TO MAKE SURE, ESPECIALLY KIDS TURN THEIR CAMERA OFF, MAKING SURE WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION DOING OUR WORK.

ASSIGN LOOKING AT A VIDEO OR THAT SOMEONE ELSE MADE A ARTICLE THEY FOUND ONLINE THAT EXPLAINS WHAT WE NEED TO LEARN FOR THE DAY.

THEN THEY'LL LET US LEAVE OUR MEET AND ASSIGN US IN GOOGLE CLASSROOM DOCK WE CAN GO ON.

ACCESS TO IT AS WELL, THEY CAN KIND OF WATCH AS US TYPE AS WE GO.

SWITCH AROUND BETWEEN DIFFERENT SCENES DURING CLASS, SEEING IF WE PAY ATTENTION OR SOME WORKING HALFWAY THROUGH CLASS.

>>Daryl: KIND OF LIKE THE TEACHING WALKING AROUND THE CLASSROOM LOOKING OVER EVERYONE'S SHOULDER.

>> EXACTLY.

>>Daryl: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

THAT'S KIND OF LOSING ME.

THAT'S MY POINT.

CRAZY.

EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN DID WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY.

PRESENTING SLIDE SHOWS.

THAT'S PRETTY CRAZE.

>>Daryl: OH, MY GOODNESS.

KIM, YOUR KIDS ARE PRETTY WELL SPACED IN THE SYSTEM.

DESCRIBE WHAT EACH ONE DAY IS LIKE.

INTERESTING THAT TAYLOR IS GOING THROUGH A CLASS SCHEDULE EVERY DAY.

IS THAT WITH A KID IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TOO?

>> YES.

WE HAVE THE I GUESS A, B, SCHEDULE FOR THE STUDENTS.

ALL OF MY CHILDREN HAVE DIFFERENT DAYS WHERE THEY WOULD ATTEND FACE TO FACE.

SINCE WE WENT IN DISTANCE LEARNING, NOW THEY'RE ONLINE.

EVERY DAY.

PRETTY MUCH FOR A FULL DAY.

SO FOR MY THIRD GRADER, THAT CHILD IS THERE ON AND OFF THE COMPUTER SEVERAL TIMES A DAY.

WORK WITH THE TEACHER AS WELL AS INDEPENDENT WORK.

THINK THE CHALLENGE WITH THIRD GRADERS THEY'RE JUST KIND OF STARTING TO GET USED TO USING TECHNOLOGY AND THE COMPUTERS.

LEARNING HOW TO ADD DIFFERENT TAB.

LOG INTO THERE THEIR ONLINE LEARNING TOOLS, WHAT IS A URL?

HOW DO YOU PUT IN THE PASSWORD AND USER NAME?

THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

THE CHAT BOX HAS BEEN I THINK A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING OR EXCITING FOR SOME STUDENTS.

A LITTLE BIT DISTRACTING TOO.

JUST DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS I THINK HAS ITS OWN CHALLENGE.

WITH TECHNOLOGY.

MY 7TH GRADER PRETTY COMPUTER SAVVY.

THEY'VE ALL BEEN DOING TESTING THIS WEEK.

SO THAT'S BEEN TAKING UP SOME OF THE TIME.

AS WELL AS MY 16 YEAR OLD.

>>Daryl: LET ME ASK KEVIN.

MIDDLE SCHOOL, RIGHT?

ARE YOU GUYS, DO EACH OF THE KIDS SEE EACH TEACHER EVERY DAY, WE'RE IN THE AB SCHEDULE AS WELL.

MONDAY, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED OFFICE HOURS.

AND WHOLE DAY IS OPEN FOR STUDENTS TO REACH OUT TO THEIR TEACHERS.

>> SCHEDULE MEETINGS WITH THEM.

CONTACT THEM FOR HELP.

TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAYS, HAVE A DAYS.

TUESDAY, STUDENTS WILL DO LESSONS ONLINE.

AND THEN WEDNESDAY, MEET THEIR TEACHERS, TEACHERS WILL HAVE VIDEO CALL LIKE THIS.

AND THEY WILL EACH, WE HAVE OUR SCHEDULE LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

WE ONLY GO UNTIL LUNCH.

WE DIDN'T WANT STUDENTS IN FRONT OF THE COMPUTER FOR A WHOLE ENTIRE DAY.

SHORTER CLASS, 45 MINUTE BLOCKS GO TO LUNCH.

ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, WE JUST REPEAT THAT SCHEDULE FOR THE B STUDENTS.

WE ARE SEEING OUR STUDENTS JUST ONCE A WEEK THAT'S THE TOUGH PART.

>>Daryl: STRIKES ME, TO DIFFERENT FROM ONE SCHOOL TO THE NEXT.

COREY ROSENLEE, TEACHER AT CAMPBELL, HOW ARE THEY HANDLING?

YOU HAVE GUYS HUMUNGOUS SCHOOL POPULATION.

HOW IS THAT BEING MANAGED?

>> IT'S ALL ONLINE.

SENIOR, DOING WORK RIGHT NEXTDOOR.

>>Daryl: CAN WE SEE?

SHOW IT TO HER LATER ON.

>> I'D HAVE TO BUST DOWN A WALL TO DO IT.

SHE'S BEEN GOING TO EVERY PERIOD EVERY SINGLE DAY.

LOGGING ON AND GETTING INSTRUCTIONS.

ALREADY GOOD STUDENT.

AMOUNT OF HOMEWORK SHE HAS AS WELL.

>>Daryl: COMPLAINING ABOUT IT?

SOMEONE WHO REPRESENTS TEACHERS, HOW DIFFICULT IS IT GET A HANDLE ON WHAT'S GOING ON WHEN EVERY SCHOOL HAS LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION OF THE WAY DO THIS?

>> THAT'S BEEN SORT OF PROBLEM.

ACROSS THE STATE, ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SOME SCHOOLS ARE 100% DISTANCE LEARNING FOR ALL STUDENTS.

SOME ARE BRINGING ON SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS.

THAT'S FOR TEACHERS HAVE TO BE ON CAMPUS AS WELL.

UNTIL TODAY, GOOD NEWS CAME IN FAMILY, IT'S GOING TO BE DISTANCE LEARNING UNTIL END OF FIRST QUARTER.

THAT WAS DIFFERENT ACROSS THE STATE.

IT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING FOR TEACHERS.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, TEACHERS ARE HANDLING IT.

TRYING TO MAKE DUE.

I KNOW SOME TEACHERS, BEFORE, JUST REALLY STRESSED ABOUT IT.

SOME UNFORTUNATELY ARE THINKING OF LEAVING THE PROFESSION.

>>Daryl: I'M CURIOUS WHY IS IT THAT WE HAVE SYSTEM LIKE THIS, SO MANY DECISIONS LEFT AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL?

>> WELL, JUXTAPOSITION OF THIS PANDEMIC CAME ALONG AT A TIME WHEN WE WERE WORKING REALLY HARD TO PUT WHAT WE CALL SCHOOL EMPOWERMENT INTO PLACE.

TALKING ABOUT, ON THE PROGRAM BEFORE.

BECAUSE HAVING SCHOOLS MAKE DECISIONS AT THE LEVEL WHERE THE TEACHERS AND THE STUDENTS CAN KNOW WHAT IS BEST, HAS BEEN THE MOVEMENT ACROSS OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM IN HAWAII.

AND I THINK THAT SOMETIMES THAT HAS REALLY CAUSED SOME DIFFICULTIES FOR SCHOOLS WHEN WE HAVE EPIDEMIC THAT IS COMMON TO EVERYONE.

AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES IN SCHOOL THAT ARE NOT SO UNIQUE TO THE SCHOOL.

I KNOW SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR MORE STANDARDS DECISIONS ON THE NUMBER OF THINGS, AND THAT HAS BEEN FORTHCOMING.

CERTAINLY, WITH RESPECT TO HOW WE HANDLE A VIRUS, NOTIFICATION AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS HAVE BEEN STANDARDIZED.

DECISION ON HOW TO HANDLE THE INSTRUCTIONS HAS NOT BEEN CONSISTENT AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT, WOULD LIKE US TO BE MORE CONSISTENT.

PARENTS AND TEACHERS AND PRINCIPALS TOO.

>>Daryl: WHAT'S IT'S VALUE IN DOING THAT, DO YOU THINK?

>> I THINK ONE OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO, ACROSS THE STATE, IS TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN WHO DON'T HAVE STRONG VOICE.

THE CHILDREN WHOSE PARENTS ARE NOT ENGLISH SPEAKERS, THOSE PARENTS ARE NOT ABLE TO HELP THEM AS MUCH.

TAKE CARE OF CHILDREN WHO REALLY ARE NOT ABLE TO LEARN ON THE COMPUTER.

THAT'S WHAT CORY SPOKEN ABOUT WITH SPECIAL EDUCATION CHILDREN.

WE HAVEN'T REALLY FOUND A GREAT WAY TO DO THAT YET.

BECAUSE IT'S JUST A HOW MANY CHALLENGE.

AND WE MUST DO IT.

NOT ONLY BY LAW BUT MORALLY.

HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THESE YOUNGSTERS.

THAT COMES RIGHT UP AGAINST HOW DO WE MANAGE THAT IN A HEALTH CRISIS?

BECAUSE LECTURES FACE TO FACE OR IN DIFFERENT KINDS OF SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE TO WORK EITHER IN THE HOME WITH THE CHILD OR IN SMALL GROUPS IN SCHOOL.

ACROSS THE NATION RIGHT NOW.

HSTA HAS IDEAS.

OTHER PLACES HAVE SOME IDEAS.

NO SCHOOLS SYSTEM HAS ROLLED OUT OPENING OF SCHOOL THIS YEAR IN WAY THAT WE CAN SAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT THIS WAY.

>>Daryl: CLEARLY NOT.

THIS IS A QUESTION DIRECTED TO YOU AS BOARD CHAIR.

I'LL PUT IT TO YOU.

I WANT TO GO AROUND THE PANEL AGAIN.

ON THE ISSUE OF SAFETY.

TO THE BOARD CHAIR, I'M SPECIAL ED.

TEACHER.

DO YOU REALLY THINK IT'S SAFE TO HAVE SPECIAL ED.

STUDENTS ON CAMPUS AND I WANT THEM SAFE TOO.

THE PEOPLE ARE ON CAMPUS NOW ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE STUDENT US FOR THE MOST PART.

ISN'T THAT CORRECT?

HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU ABOUT SAFETY IN THAT COMMUNITY?

>> I AM VERY CONCERNED.

AND WE HAVE MORE STUDENTS IN CERTAIN SCHOOLS.

CLUSTERED IN LARGE GROUPS IN CERTAIN SCHOOLS.

ALREADY, WE'RE SEEING SOME SITUATIONS THAT ARE CAUSING CONCERN.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME SPECIAL ED.

TEACHERS WHO DO AMAZING THINGS.

TOLD ME THAT WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT.

WE CAN DO THIS EVEN ONLINE.

WITH A LOT OF THE SUPPORT.

AND SOME OF THEM ARE DOING IT ALREADY.

IF WE ARE EXPECT THAT, WE'LL HAVE TO REALLY REALLY UP OUR SUPPORT OF THE TEACHERS BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE, IS WE CANNOT LEAVE THOSE YOUNGSTERS BEHIND AND THOSE FAMILIES BEHIND WITH THOSE CHILDREN.

>>Daryl: HOW ARE YOU HANDLING THAT ISSUE AT KALANI HIGH SCHOOL?

>> LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

HEALTH AND SAFETY ALWAYS COMES FIRST.

SO WE WANT TO, CHALLENGE FOR SCHOOLS IS TO BALANCE THE THAT HEALTH AND SAFETY WITH PROVIDING THE STUDENTS WITH CHALLENGE AND RIGOROUS CURRICULUM.

WHEN WE LOOK AT VULNERABLE, DEPARTMENT OF DEFINED VULNERABLE AS THOSE STUDENTS WHO DO NOT BENEFIT FROM DISTANCE LEARNING OR THOSE THAT HAVE DIFFICULTY ACCESSING OR MAKING PROGRESS WITH THEIR CURRICULUM.

SO THEY END UP COMING TO SCHOOL.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS SAFE, SO WE PRACTICE ALL THE DISTANCE >>Daryl: DISTANCING.

SORRY, WE MAKE IT SO THAT THE TEACHERS ARE SAFE, EQUIPPED ALL OF OUR TEACHERS ARE MASKS AND FACE SHIELDS AND PLEXIGLASS BARRIERS AND THEY GET SHIPMENTS OF OTHER SUPPLIES THAT COME IN.

WE MASK UP IN THE ROOM.

MAKE SURE EVERYBODY SAFE.

FIRST AND FOREMOST ON THE MINDS OF EVERYBODY ON CAMPUS.

ESPECIALLY IN THE MINDS OF THE PRINCIPALS.

>>Daryl: DO YOU END UP BEING SAFETY COP ON THE CAMPUS?

HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS BEING FOLLOWED, EQUIPMENT IS THERE?

DID YOU HAVE TO ASSIGN SOMEONE ESPECIALLY OR DO YOU DO THAT YOURSELF AS PRINCIPAL OF A SMALLER SCHOOL?

>> NO.

YOU KNOW, QUICK ONE.

KALANI IS 12TH LARGEST PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL IS IN THE STATE.

WE'RE AT ABOUT 1500 STUDENTS.

I HAVE EXCELLENT STAFF OF MANY OF WHICH WORKING DURING THE SUMMER.

EITHER 12 MONTH TEACHERS.

WE WERE WORK UNTIL THE DAY THAT WE HAD TO COME BACK TO SCHOOL.

ORDERING WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

BROUGHT BACK SOME VICE PRINCIPALS EARLY AND ORDERING ALL THER SUPPLIES THAT WE NEEDED.

AND WE HAD A COMPANY COME IN AND PUT LINES SO THAT WE HAVE DIRECTIONAL ARROWS ON OUR CAMPUS.

STUDENTS WILL ONE WALK IN ONE DIRECTION.

WE HAVE COMPANY THAT COMES IN EVERY NIGHT.

TO SANITIZE OUR CLASSROOMS.

TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE ABOUT DOING THINGS TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR EVERYONE.

>>Daryl: KAUAI, DO YOU GUYS HAVE THAT SAME LEVEL OF RESOURCE AT CHIEFESS KAMAKAHELE SCHOOL?

>> I THINK THERE'S SOME EXTENT, OUR ADMINISTRATION IS PROVIDED MASKS AND SUPPLY AND GLOVES.

DIFFERENT THINGS.

I HEAR EVERYONE TALK ABOUT HOW HEALTH AND SAFETY IS TOP PRIORITY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS POSSIBLE WHEN YOU BRING IN 400 STUDENTS TO CAMPUS ON A GIVEN DAY.

WE JUST HAD 400 STUDENTS ON CAMPUS.

SPLIT UP OUR NORMALLY, AT 900.

BROUGHT ABOUT 450 STUDENTS ON CAMPUS.

AND YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WE HEAR ABOUT NO MORE THAN TEN TO A GROUP, 6 FEET OF SOCIAL DISTANCE, SOMEHOW, THE D.O.E.

SAYS, OH, NO, YOU CAN DO IT WITH 3 FEET.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW SOME OF THE LOGIC APPLIES IN SOME OF THESE ALLOWANCES THAT ARE OKAY FOR SCHOOL.

LIKE OAHU, YOU GUYS CAN'T EVEN HAVE MORE THAN FIVE PEOPLE.

YET, I HAVE MORE THAN, AT ONE POINT, I HAD 18 STUDENTS ON TWO OF MY DAYS.

IN A CONFINED SPACE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE REALLY SAYING WE WANT KIDS TO BE SAFE.

YET, BRINGING SO MANY KIDS ON CAMPUS.

>>Keahi: DO YOU PERSONALLY FEEL SAFE?

>> I DON'T.

I DON'T.

>>Daryl: TAYLOR, YOU'RE A YOUNG PERSON.

TOTALLY IMMORTAL.

HOW ARE YOU FEEL ABOUT SAFETY ON CAMPUS?

ARE YOU AND YOUR PEERS NERVOUS ABOUT THIS?

DO YOU FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY IS FOLLOWING THE RULES?

YOU HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN TO CAMPUS MUCH, HAVE YOU?

>> NO.

NONE OF US HAVE BEEN BACK SINCE MARCH.

>>Daryl: OKAY.

I GUESS, SAFETY IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR YOU EXCEPT WHEN YOU'RE NOT ON CAMPUS.

I GUESS.

>> YEAH.

I MEAN, EVERYONE KIND OF CARES.

SO MANY PEOPLE CARE MORE THAN OTHERS.

SOME PEOPLE'S FAMILY CARE MORE THAN OTHERS.

SOME OF MY FRIENDS AREN'T DOING THE BEST JOB FOLLOWING THE RULES.

SOME STUDENTS WHO ARE DOING A GREAT JOB FOLLOWING THE RULES.

NONE OF KIDS AT MY SCHOOL BACK TO SCHOOL YET.

TEACHERS BEEN ON CAMPUS EVERY DAY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST.

SOME OF THEM DON'T REALLY MIND BUT KNOW THAT A LOT OF THEM SPOKE TO ME ABOUT PUSHING TO GO TRY TO BE ALLOWED TEACH FROM HOME.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RULES ARE.

NOT SURE IF THEY DIFFER FROM SCHOOL TO SCHOOL.

YOU CAN'T IMAGINE WHY THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO TEACH FROM HOME AS LONG AS THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT MATERIALS AND TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO LECTURE FROM HOME AND JOIN FROM HOME.

NOT ONLY ENDANGERING THEIR SAFETY, MORE WE SEND PEOPLE OUT, SEND PEOPLE TO WORK, WHO FROM HOME, I FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT HELPING SLOW THE SPREAD.

AS MUCH AS WE COULD BE AT LEAST.

>>Daryl: PARENT OF THREE.

DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT YOU DID HAVE TO TAKE AT LEAST ONE OF YOUR CHILDREN TO CAMPUS RECENTLY?

>> YES.

THIRD GRADER, WE HAD TO SEND THEM ON TO CAMPUS TO PICK UP COMPUTER AND TEXTBOOK.

WE DID A DRIVE THROUGH FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

HIGH SCHOOL ALSO DID A DRIVE THROUGH.

PRIOR TO KNOWING WHAT SCHOOL WAS GOING TO BE LIKE, FOR THE START, MY 16 YEAR OLD IS INVOLVED WITH STUDENT ASSOCIATION.

THEY WERE MEETING IN SMALL GROUPS THINGS LIKE THAN ON CAMPUS.

>>Daryl: SO HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THEIR SAFETY AND SAFETY AS AN ISSUE FOR YOU AS A PARENT?

>> I'M NERVOUS ABOUT THEIR SAFETY.

YOU KNOW, FAMILIES OUT THERE THAT STILL HAVE ESSENTIAL WORKERS.

THAT NEED TO GO OUT TO WORK.

AND TEMPERATURES THAT'S GREAT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE TEMPERATURES.

BUT WITH PEOPLE WALKING AROUND THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE ASYMPTOMATIC AS WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW.

CAREFUL.

>>Daryl: I WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR KEVIN MATSUNAGA HAVING SO MANY KIDS IN A CLASSROOM.

JUST CLARIFY.

KEVIN, IS THAT RECENTLY OR LIKE SUMMER SCHOOL?

IS THAT HOW YOU'RE OPERATING NOW?

>> THAT WAS LAST WEEK.

MY CLASS, GROUP THAT HAD OF 18 LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE KIND OF CLASS IT WAS.

I ASKED TO BE MOVED.

I NORMALLY TEACH IN COMPUTER LAB.

THERE WAS NO WAY THAT I WAS GOING TO BE COULD FIT 18.

ASKED IF I COULD USE BACK PART OF THE LIBRARY TO HAVE MY CLASS BACK THERE.

SO I CAN HAVE EVERYTHING OPEN UP.

STILL IN AN AIR CONDITIONED BUILDING.

LIBRARY STILL USED BY OTHER PEOPLE.

MY CLASSES RANGE FROM 18 DOWN TO 7.

THAT WAS ALL LAST WEEK.

BROUGHT STUDENTS ON CAMPUS FOR FOUR FULL DAYS.

PICK UP BOOK, MEET TEACHERS, TAKE DIAGNOSTIC TESTS AT THE SAME TIME.

>>Daryl: WHY WAS THAT NECESSARY AT YOUR SCHOOL?

IS THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF KIDS THAT HAVE A CHALLENGE OF GETTING DISTANCE LEARNING AND NEEDED THAT TIME?

WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THAT THINKING?

>> YOU KNOW, WE INSTITUTED ONE ON ONE CHROMEBOOK DISTRIBUTION FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.

ALL OF OUR STUDENTS HAVE CHROMEBOOKS.

ALLOWED THEM TO TAKE THEM HOME.

ONLY SCHOOLS THAT I KNOW OF IN WHICH A STUDENT WAS GIVEN A CHROME BOOK AND ALLOWED TO TAKE IT HOME TO CONTINUE THEIR WORK.

WHEN THE WHOLE PANDEMIC THING HIT AND WE WERE FORCED TO STAY HOME, ALL OF OUR STUDENTS ALREADY HAD THAT.

OTHER SCHOOLS SCRAMBLING WE WERE AHEAD OF THE GAME.

FOR THEM TO COME IN, OUR SCHOOL FELT THEY NEEDED TO RUN DIAGNOSTICS TESTS IN MATH AND READING SO THAT OUR SPECIAL ED.

TEACHERS COULD THEN WORK ON IEPS AND GET THINGS READY AND IT WAS TOUGH.

BECAUSE THOSE TESTS TOOK UP A GUIDE CHUNK OF OUR DAY.

WE COULD HAVE BEEN MAYBE GETTING TO KNOW OUR STUDENT AS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT DATA IS NEEDED.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE CHOSE TO DO.

>>Daryl: I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD.

I HAVE TO GUESS IT'S ABOUT JUST HEARING THIS IS WHAT YOU HEAR ALL DAY, EVERY DAY, RIGHT?

>> FRUSTRATION, WHEN YOU HEAR IT, IT'S DIFFERENT IN EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL.

YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF KIDS GOING ON TO A CAMPUS, CROWDED INTO A CLASSROOM.

MIDDLE OF THE PANDEMIC.

I WANT TO PAINT A PICTURE, SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS.

YOU CAN HAVE 50 OR 20 KIDS IN A CLASSROOM.

BECAUSE SOME OF KIDS NEED A ONE ON ONE SITUATION.

AND DEFINITELY NOT, KIDS CAN'T WEAR A MASK.

SO THESE ARE VERY FRUSTRATING FOR TEACHERS.

FEEL LIKE HEALTH AND SAFETY IS AT RISK.

ACROSS THE STATE.

TAYLOR, HER SCHOOL IN WAIAKEA, CHARTER SCHOOL, KAEO CAME DOWN WITH THE CORONAVIRUS.

HAS TO BE THE REALIZATION THAT JUST BECAUSE CHILD HAS SPECIAL NEEDS OR ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNER DOESN'T MAKE THEM IMPERVIOUS TO THE VIRUS NOR DOES TEACHER IMPERVIOUS.

WHERE WE'VE GOT TO, FOR TAYLOR' TEACHERS, LAST TIME THEY'RE ON CAMPUS, THE SPREAD.

SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELEWORK.

>>Daryl: LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.

THIS GOES TELEWORKING QUESTION.

QUESTION FOR JJ IN WAIALAE.

PUBLIC SCHOOLS DOH OF D.O.E.

CHANGED DISTANCE LEARNING AND FEW TIMES A NOW.

WHY JUST NOT ADMIT WE SHOULDN'T THINK ABOUT GOING BACK TO IN OF PERSON TEACHING UNTIL JANUARY.

COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ALONG THOSE LINES.

JUST SORT OF LIKE LET'S FIGURE OUT THIS ON LINE THING.

BEFORE WE TRY TO BRING PEOPLE BACK.

HOW MUCH URGENCY DO YOU FEEL ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE BACK?

VERY IMPORTANT TO BRING STUDENTS BACK TO SCHOOL?

TAYLOR, WHAT YOU DO THINK?

>> PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK IT IS.

I KNOW THAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH ON INLINE SCHOOL.

NEVER HAD DO ANY THIS KIND OF SCHOOL BEFORE.

MY PEER AND TEACHERS ESPECIALLY.

THE MORE WE KEEP WORKING AT IT, EVERY DAY WE GO TO SCHOOL, GETTING BETTER AROUND MORE TECH SAVVY.

HONESTLY, THE WHOLE WORLD IS PRETTY TECH SAVVY AND ONLY GOING TO GET MORE TECH SAVVY FROM THIS POINT ON.

IT'S NOT BAD PRACTICE.

LEARNING A LOT.

I THINK THAT MY EDUCATION IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I'M A JUNIOR.

ALMOST OUT OF SCHOOL.

I WOULD LIKE TO MILK WHATEVER I HAVE LEFT.

BUT I THINK THAT MY HEALTH AND THE HEALTH OF OTHERS AROUND ME SHOULD BE OUR MAIN PRIORITY.

RIGHT NOW, I'M DOING FINE.

MY CLASSES ARE HARD.

AND I HAVE HOMEWORK AND I'M STRUGGLING WITH IT.

SO I THINK I'M LEARNING.

STRETCHING MY BRAIN PLENTY.

WHY NOT KEEP GOING?

ONLY GOING TO GET BETTER WITH PRACTICE.

IF WE PUSH EVERYTHING TILL JANUARY, WHAT'S REALLY THE HARM?

>>Daryl: LET ME ASK YOU KIM.

HOME WITH THREE KIDS FOR SIX MONTHS NOW.

AS A PARENT, HOW MUCH RELIEF WOULD IT BE AND IT WOULD BE WORTH IT TO YOU TO HAVE THE KIDS GO BACK TO SCHOOL EVEN IN THESE CONDITIONS IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, SAY?

>> YOU KNOW, WORKED FROM HOME FOR A LONG TIME WITH MY OWN BUSINESS.

SO I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN PREPARING FOR THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

I DON'T MIND.

IN MY SITUATION, I DON'T MIND BEING AT HOME WITH THEM.

I SEE IT AS A CHANCE FOR ME TO WORK MORE CLOSELY ONE ON ONE TO GIVE MY THIRD GRADER ONE ON ONE TUTORING.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE HOME AND IT'S SAFER FOR THEM TO BE HOME, I DON'T MIND DOING THE DISTANCE LEARNING SCHOOL.

EDUCATION.

>>Daryl: I'M CURIOUS, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON A SCHOOL LIKE YEARS, SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING ONLINE UNTIL 2021?

>> AS I LOOK AT IT, THERE HAS TO BE A METRIC AS TO WHEN SCHOOLS ARE SAFE ENOUGH FOR STUDENTS AS WELL AS FACULTY TO COME BACK.

AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, THE NUMBERS ARE HIGH.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO GO TO THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER.

BUT AS WE GO FORTH, TO LOOK AT TAKING US WEEK BY WEEK, MONTH BY MONTH, OR WHATEVER IT IS, THERE HAS TO BE SOME NUMBER OUT THERE THAT THAT WOULD BE SAFE ENOUGH, FOR OUR KIDS, STAFF AND EVERYONE, TO COME BACK, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, IT SHOULD BE THAT WE CAN GO BACK TO SCHOOL SAFELY.

>>Daryl: YOU MEAN A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY SPREAD FOR EXAMPLE, OR INFECTIONS AS OPPOSED TO, NUMBER LIKE THAT, COMMUNITY NUMBER?

>> YES.

WHETHER IT BE SINGLE DIGITS, CASES, LIKE WE HAD EARLY JUNE, OR LOW DOUBLE DIGIT.

I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.

THERE HAS TO BE SOME METRIC THAT WE CAN SET OUT THERE THAT WE CAN HAVE, SAY, OKAY, THIS IS SAFE ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY TO RETURN TO SCHOOL.

>>Daryl: LET ME ASK KEVIN MATSUNAGA.

THIS ISSUE OF ONE ON ONE HEALTH, KIM MENTIONED IT, AS I'M GETTING A NUMBER OF CALLERS.

WHAT ABOUT NO DIGITAL ACCESS.

I EMERGENCY THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET DIGITAL ACCESS.

I IMAGINE.

NOT AN OPTION OF NOT HAVING IT ANY MORE.

THEY NEED SUPPORT.

DO YOU THINK A TEACHER CAN BE AS EFFECTIVE ONE ON ONE IF IT'S JUST ONE ON ONE THROUGH A SCREEN AS HAVING TO HAVE EACH OTHER PHYSICALLY PRESENT?

>> LIKE THERE IS NO TEACHER THAT I KNOW OF THAT WOULD RATHER TEACH THAT WAY.

EVERY TEACHER WANT TO BE BACK IN THE CLASSROOM IN FRONT OF STUDENTS AND ABLE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH STUDENTS AND ABLE TO WALK UP TO A STUDENT, HELP THEM WITH SOMETHING.

EVERY TEACHER WANTS THAT.

WE ALL STUDENTS BACK IN THE CLASSROOM.

BUT HAVE THAT DONE SAFELY.

WHAT MITCH SAYS, I TOTALLY AGREE.

WE NEED TO HAVE SOME METRICS IN PLACE THAT CAN SAY WHEN IT'S TECHNICALLY SAFE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVER TRULY SAFE TO HAVE STUDENTS ON CAMPUS.

BUT IS IT MUCH SAFER WHEN WE HAVE MAYBE THE PERCENTAGE OF TESTS VERSUS POSITIVE CASES THAT NUMBER IS REALLY LOW.

I THINK THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN FRUSTRATING FOR TEACHERS IS THAT THERE HAVEN'T BEEN MUCH DIRECTION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH FROM OUR STATE, DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, ON WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE.

WE HARD STUFF IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC.

THAT IF THERE WERE NO CASES FOR FOUR WEEKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR TWO WEEKS, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS DON'T OPEN UNTIL THEN.

WE ALL LOOK AT THAT, NO WAY SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO OPEN.

HERE WE ARE FIVE MONTHS LATER WE GOT TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

>>Daryl: FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD POINT OF VIEW, YOU HEARD ALL OF THIS AS WELL.

DO YOU SEE STICKING WITH DISTANCE LEARNING ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THE NEW YEAR AS BEING A MORE VIABLE OPTION THAN CONTINUOUSLY TRYING TO LOOK FOR A DATE?

>> I THINK JUST AS WE LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND MAKE A PREDICTION, IT SEEMS VERY LIKELY TO ME THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN.

BECAUSE I THINK CASES ARE GOING TO BE CONTINUING TO GO UP.

THEY'RE TESTING A LOT MORE PEOPLE.

AND I THINK EXPECT THE COMMUNITY SPREAD AT LEAST ON OAHU IS GOING TO INCREASE.

I THINK IT'S ALSO REALLY HARD FOR OUR TEACHERS TO SWITCH, WE TALKED ABOUT PIVOTING BACK AND FORTH.

BUT PIVOTING IS NOT EASY.

WHEN YOU FINALLY ARE STARTING TO GET WHERE YOU NEED TO BE AND THEN MAKE THAT BIG SWITCH BACK, BECAUSE BOTH TYPES OF INSTRUCTIONS TAKE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF PLANNING TO BE EFFECTIVE.

I THINK WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT THE SCHOOLS AND TEACHERS WHO ARE ASKING TO IMPLEMENT THIS LEARNING.

IT'S ABOUT HEALTH AND SAFETY.

IT'S ALSO ABOUT HOW CAN THEY BE MOST EFFECTIVE.

AND HOW MUCH CAN WE ASK OF THEM TO KEEP CHANGING AS THEY'RE MOVING ALONG.

>>Daryl: LET ME ASK THIS COUPLE OF YOU FOLKS.

I WANT TO READ A COUPLE OF FACEBOOK.

MIGHT THERE COME A TIME TEACHERS AND STUDENTS COULD PIVOT TO THE BEST MATCH FOR THEIR KID.

EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

TEACHERS AND THE STUDENTS.

TEACHERS MIGHT BE REALLY GOOD AS TECHNOLOGY.

ABLE TO WORK FROM HOME.

WHEREAS ANOTHER TEACHER MIGHT BE REALLY GOOD ONE ON ONE TEACHER.

VIA HOME INSTRUCTIONS AND STUDENT MIGHT BE REALLY GOOD DISTANCE LEARNING, ANOTHER ONE MIGHT BE GOOD IN SCHOOL.

ARE WE GOING TO BE IN A PLACE WHERE ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN HAPPEN OR HAVE TO TAKE TIME TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND ALL FEELING LITTLE RUSHED?

>> SYSTEMS ARE EITHER CLOSED COMPLETELY RIGHT NOW, THE ONES TRIED TO DO OPEN, LIKE GEORGIA, TRAIN WRECK.

2000 IN GEORGIA RIGHT NOW IN QUARANTINE.

NOT ABOUT A DATE BUT THE DATA.

RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY OPEN SCHOOL SYSTEM EFFECTIVELY.

AND THERE NEW FOR EVERYBODY.

RIGHT NOW, DATA IS SHOWING SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS OPEN EFFECTIVELY WITHOUT OUTBREAK OF CASES.

I THINK TOO, KEVIN AND KATHERINE WAS SAYING, OUR TEACHERS NEED CLARITY.

SOONER WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION, MORE THEY CAN START GETTING SOME STRESS OFF OF THEIR PLATES AND STARTING TO THINK ABOUT, WHAT DO I NEED DO FOR NEXT SEMESTER KNOWING THAT ENTIRE TIME WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO PLAN.

>>Daryl: CURIOUS HOW STRESSED YOUR TEACHERS ARE.

>> IT VARIES ACROSS THE BOARD.

LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, ANXIOUS TO SEE THE KIDS.

AT THE SAME TIME, NUMBERS ARE GOING UP.

NOT BEEN VERY HELPFUL.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHATEVER IS THROWN AT US AND OUR TEACHERS ARE EXCELLENT.

I HAVE A GROUP OF SENIORS THAT AS A SENIOR ADVISORY GROUP THAT I RECEIVE VERY POSITIVE COMMENTS FROM THEM AS TO HOW IT'S GOING OF THE CLASSES THEY'VE ATTENDED.

AGAIN, TEACHERS HAVE WORKED VERY, VERY HARD TO PRESENT THE CURRICULUM IN THE PLATFORM THAT THEY'RE GIVEN.

BUT NOTHING REALLY REPLACES THAT ONE ON ONE, LIKE EVERY TEACHER WANTS TO BE WORKING WITH THE KIDS OF THE CLASSROOM.

AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT TIME COMES, WHEN THE NUMBERS ARE LOWER, THEY'LL FEEL LESS STRESS AND READY TO TACKLE THAT CHALLENGE.

>>Daryl: THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUTTING FOCUS GETTING CHROMEBOOK TO KIDS OR STUDENTS GETTING SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THE SYSTEM.

GETTING WI FI OUT THERE.

I KNOW THERE'S STILL PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT BEING SERVED IN THAT WAY.

WE HAVEN'T HEARD AS MUCH ABOUT THE TEACHERS ABILITY TO TELEWORK FROM HOME WITH EQUIPMENT THAT THEY HAVE.

I DID GOT A CALL FROM PUBLIC TEACHER ON KAUAI.

SOME FELLOW TEACHERS HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN PROPERLY WORKING MAC BOOK, HAVE TO USE A STUDENT CHROMEBOOK.

WE NEED PROPER EQUIPMENT TO TEACH.

THEN A COUPLE OF ANONYMOUS CALLERS.

HOW DO WE APPLY, EVEN GET A CHANCE TO TRY IT?

HOW MUCH ABILITY DO TEACHERS HAVE TO TELEWORK?

WHAT'S IT LIKE WORKING FROM HOME?

YOU'RE A YOUNGER GUY COMPARED TO ME.

>> NOT THAT YOUNG.

>>Daryl: WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO WORK FROM HOME DOING BASICALLY THE SAME THING YOU'RE DOING IN A CLASSROOM NOW?

>>I CAN DO IT.

I TEACH DIGITAL MEDIA.

CAMERAS, FOR ME, I'M FINE WITH TEACHING FROM HOME.

I HAVE A PRETTY STABLE INTERNET CONNECTION.

I HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.

BUT A LOT TEACHERS WOULD LIKE TO STAY IN SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY HAVE LESS DISTRACTION.

VARIES FROM PERSON TO PERSON.

SOME TEACHERS KIDS ARE AT HOME AND MIGHT WANT TO BE AWAY FROM SOME OF THIS DISTRACTION.

THE TECHNOLOGY ISSUE IS A HUGE DEAL.

TEACHERS NEED EQUIPMENT THAT CAN ALLOW THEM DO.

IT'S TRUE.

THAT TEACHER COULD BE FROM OUR SCHOOL.

WE'VE HAD TO GIVE TEACHERS CHROMEBOOKS.

AREN'T THAT GREAT.

FOR A TEACHER TO CREATE LESSONS ON.

SO WE'RE TRYING VERY HARD TO GET EVERYBODY DECENT COMPUTER.

IT'S TOUGH.

>>Daryl: SO I UNDERSTAND.

CHROMEBOOK, USUALLY DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF MEMORY OF IT.

THAT'S WHY IT'S INEXPENSIVE.

>> GLORIFIED KEYBOARD WITH A SCREEN.

WHAT IT IS.

JUST CONNECTING TO INTERNET.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF RAM.

CHEAP.

WE USE IT BECAUSE IT'S CHEAP.

250, $300.

GIVE TO EVERY KID DEVICE.

IF THEY BREAK IT NOT A BIG DEAL.

IF WE GAVE THEM A MAC BOOK, A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THAT'S MUCH, MUCH TOUGHER TO REPLACE.

GOT TO GIVE OUR TEACHERS DECENT EQUIPMENT.

>>Daryl: EMPHASIS THAT I'VE HEARD, UP FROM THE D.O.E., SO MUCH EMPHASIS ABOUT GETTING THE EQUIPMENT TO THE KIDS TO THE FAMILIES.

AND LESS EMPHASIS ON GETTING EQUIPMENT TO TEACHERS.

DO YOU THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ACCELERATED AS WELL?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

BUT I ALSO THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE DEPARTMENT AND SOME OF THE PRINCIPALS HAVE REALLY WANTED TO KEEP THE TEACHERS ON CAMPUS EVEN THE STUDENTS ARE NOT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE TECHNICAL SUPPORT.

THEY HAVE MORE EQUIPMENT ON THE CAMPUS THAT TEACHERS CAN USE.

THAT'S PART OF THE DILEMMA.

BUT CERTAINLY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS AS WE MOVE INTO THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS, AFTER THE FIRST FOUR WEEKS, THERE WILL BE MUCH MORE FLEXIBILITY TO REQUEST TELEWORK FROM HOME.

BUT ALONG WITH THAT WILL BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THEY HAVE TO CAPABILITY TO PROVIDE THE TECHNOLOGICAL SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED FROM THEIR HOME.

>>Daryl: LET ME ASK.

THROW THERE OUT.

COUPLE OF CALLERS.

CATHY FROM EAST HONOLULU.

I'VE SEEN SCHOOL KIDS CROSSING STREET TOGETHER WITHOUT MASK.

NO DISTANCING.

TOO SOON TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL SAFELY.

ARE THEY CHECKING IF SCHOOLS HAVE ENOUGH PPEs?

OUR SCHOOL DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH.

KAILUA, KALAHEO COMPLEX.

SHOULD BE CONSENSUS THERE SHOULDN'T BE A RUSH TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

EVEN WHEN DO YOU, DO YOU THINK THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE CAPABLE OF PHYSICALLY KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE ONCE HAVE YOU THEM ON CAMPUS?

I SEE NODDING VIGOROUSLY.

WE CAN'T EVEN GET ADULTS TO SOCIAL DISTANCED.

HOW CAN WE EXPECTED KIDS?

LIKE OUR SCHOOL IS TRYING.

WHEN WE HAD KIDS ON CAMPUS LAST WEEK, IT WAS SADDEST THING TO WALK PAST CAFETERIA IN THE MORNING AND SEE ALL OF OUR STUDENTS IN THE CAFETERIA 6 FEET APART FACING ONE WAY.

NOT ABLE TO TALK TO ANYBODY.

AT LUNCH, WHEN THERE'S NOT AS EVERYBODY PROVISION, KIDS ARE CRAMMED IN DIFFERENT PLACES.

THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER.

YOU TALK TO THEM AND YOU TELL THEM SEPARATE.

THEY COME RIGHT BACK.

OUR PA SYSTEM, EVERY TIME WE HAVE STUDENTS TRANSITIONING, OUR PA SYSTEM IS MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

STAY 6 FEET APART.

THEY DON'T DO IT.

THINK HARD TO ASK KIDS OR TO EXPECT THEM DO IT WHEN OUR ADULTS CAN'T DO IT.

>>Daryl: YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT KIDS THAN ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS PANEL I THINK.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, DO YOU THINK THERE'S A MESSAGE THAT COULD GET THROUGH TO YOUNGER PEOPLE TO DO THAT OR IS THAT REALLY NOT GOING TO WORK?

>> SADLY, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT CAN REALLY GET THROUGH TO US OR GET THROUGH TO THOSE OF US WHO DON'T REALLY CARE AS MUCH RIGHT NOW, IS IF WE WERE GO BACK AND NOT SOCIAL DISTANCE AND NOT WEAR MASKS FOR A LOT OF US TO GET SICK.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY THING THAT IS SERIOUS ENOUGH TO GIVE US WAKEUP CALL.

PAYING ATTENTION, TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY.

I'VE ACTUALLY HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH MY PEERS BEFORE ALL THE NEWS CAME OUT WE WERE GOING TO START BEING 100% DISTANCE LEARNING.

THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH ALL OF OUR MAIN CONCERN.

AT THE TIME, WE WERE GOING TO BE SCHOOL, WEREN'T REALLY WORRIED ABOUT OUR EDUCATION.

WE WERE JUST WERE WORRIED ABOUT ALL KIDS DON'T CARE, POSTING DON'T CARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

>>Daryl: I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT FOR TEACHERS AT HOME.

WHAT KIND OF INVESTMENT DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO SEND HALF THE TEACHERS HOME, FOR EXAMPLE?

HOW MANY MILLIONS AN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WOULD THAT COST?

>> A LOT OF OUR TEACHERS DO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AT HOME.

ACTUALLY, BANDWIDTH MIGHT BE BETTER AT HOME THAN IT IS AT SCHOOL.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE TEACHERS, CAMPBELL 200 TEACHERS TRYING TO ACCESS THE INTERNET AND VIDEO.

ACTUALLY WOULD PREFER TO DO IT AT HOME.

POINT THAT TAYLOR SAID, KIDS, TEENAGERS, ALREADY SEEN, THEY CONGREGATE BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL.

KIDS THEY PUT THE MASK NOT COVERING THE NOSE.

KIDS WANT TO BE SOCIAL.

WANT TO GET CLOSE TOGETHER AND NOT GOING TO FOLLOW DISTANCE RULES AND MASKS.

>>Daryl: QUESTION FROM WAIPAHU.

WHAT IS THE D.O.E.

'S PLAN FOR YOUNGER STUDENTS, KINDERGARTENS FIRST GRADERS OLDER STUDENTS BETTER EQUIPPED FOR LEARNING ON CHROMEBOOKS.

AND TALKING LITTLE BIT ABOUT ANOTHER COMMENT FROM A FORMER TEACHER.

SHOULD TIER ENTRIES BACK TO SCHOOL.

SOME GROUPS DO NEED TO BE IN SCHOOL BEFORE OTHERS.

SCHOOLS COULD ADJUST TO THAT.

HOW DO YOU FEEL YOUR YOUNGEST CHILD INABILITY TO BE IN A SCHOOL?

>> STILL MAKES ME NERVOUS.

HARD FOR ADULTS TO SOCIAL DISTANCE.

DIFFICULT FOR THE CHILDREN DO SO.

TEACHERS CAN'T BE AROUND CAMPUS 100% OF THE TIME WATCHING EVERY SINGLE STUDENT.

THERE'S GOING TO BE THOSE TIMES, RECESS, LUNCH, MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONGREGATE WITH ONE ANOTHER AND JUST OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BE A LITTLE TOO CLOSE WITH ONE ANOTHER POTENTIAL OF GETTING SICK.

IS >>Daryl: I GUESS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

DO YOU FEEL THAT LIKE ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A BOY OR GIRL.

SORRY.

YOUNGEST.

DO YOU THINK THAT HE OR SHE IS BEING HELD BACK BY HER INABILITY TO BE OF A CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENT?

>> I THINK THIS IS SO NEW TO HER, THAT LIKE TAYLOR SAID, HOPEFULLY, IT CAN JUST GET BETTER FROM HERE ON IF WE ARE GOING TO DO DISTANCE LEARNING FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.

COMPUTERS, I DON'T THINK IT WAS THAT BIG OF A LEARNING TOOL LAST YEAR.

THEY WERE INTRODUCED TO IT.

THIS YEAR, THEY'RE DOING MUCH MORE OF THEIR WORK ONLINE.

ON THE COMPUTER.

TYPING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>>Daryl: ONLY GOT A COUPLE MINUTES LEFT.

I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THESE QUESTIONS TO MITCHELL AND TO KATHERINE AS THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THIS SYSTEM THE LONGEST.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE POSITIVE THAT MIGHT COME OUT OF THIS?

YOU'RE SEEING TREMENDOUS NEW TECHNOLOGY COMING IN.

TREMENDOUS CHALLENGE.

SEE CHALLENGING BEFORE IN YOUR CAREERS.

DO YOU SEE POSITIVE THINGS LOOKING AHEAD THAT COULD COME OUT OF THIS?

WHY DON'T YOU START?

>> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVES THAT HAS COME OUT.

DESPITE ALL OF THE PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING, I THINK WE HAVE NOW AN OPPORTUNITY TO REINVENT HOW WE DELIVER INSTRUCTIONS TO STUDENTS.

AND WE HAVE MANY, MANY MORE TOOLS TO WHICH WE CAN DELIVER THIS INSTRUCTION IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.

TO THE STUDENTS.

>>Daryl: ABOUT 40 SECONDS.

45 SECONDS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

WHAT JUMPS OUT ABOUT A GOOD THING MIGHT COME OUT OF THIS?

>>WE BUILT A LOT OF MORE SKILLS IN TECHNOLOGY THAN WE EVER THOUGHT WE WOULD NEED.

I THINK EDUCATION HAS BEEN CHANGED FOREVER BECAUSE OF THIS.

YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT DIFFERENT LEARNING STYLES OF DIFFERENT CHILDREN.

AND EVEN TEACHING STYLES.

MAYBE WE WILL BE ABLE TO MATCH THESE A LITTLE BETTER.

SO THAT IF THERE ARE CHILDREN, WE HAVE CHARTER SCHOOLS DOING THIS ALREADY.

CHILDREN LEARN WELL ONLINE.

TEACHERS THAT TEACH WELL ONLINE.

WE CAN MATCH THEM UP AND USE THOSE SKILLS AND NEW TECHNOLOGY.

I THINK WE'LL COME OUT BETTER IN THE END.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG ROAD.

THIS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY.

WE HAVE A LOT STRUGGLE AHEAD.

>>Daryl: THANK YOU SOME OF.

THE FUTURE IS NOW.

MAHALO TO YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION CATHERINE PAYNE HSTA PRESIDENT COREY ROSENLEE MITCHELL OTANI, PRINCIPAL AT KALANI HIGH SCHOOL KAUAI TEACHER KEVIN MATSUNAGA PARENT KIM EKIMOTO AND.

HAWAII ISLAND STUDENT TAYLOR MCCANN.

NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS, WE'LL GO BACK TO OUR ELECTION 2020 COVERAGE WITH THE TWO CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR HAWAII COUNTY MAYOR, IKAIKA MARZO AND MITCH ROTH.

PLEASE JOIN US THEN.

I'M DARYL HUFF FOR INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI`I, ALOHA!

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