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Pau Hana Years, a new day for older Americans, a time for living.

Your host, Bob Barker.

Bob Barker: Hi, and welcome to the program for and by the senior citizens of Hawaiʻi.

Today, Pau Hana Years is on the eastern tip of the Valley Isle in Heavenly Hāna, Maui.

Here is enchantment, tranquility, haunting beauty at a remote Hawaiian village nestled in a lovely verdant valley beneath historic Kaʻuiki Hill on the slopes of Haleakalā, the House of the Sun.

We're visiting the Hanalani Senior Citizen Club at Hāna Bay Park.

(Singing) …kē ia He Ulumano no ke kai loa Noenoe ua kea o Hāna Hoapili o ka Mālualua ʻElua māua i ka piko I kolu i ke ʻala lipoa Bob Barker: This is Bear Tavares.

area-wide planner for the Committee on Aging, County of Maui.

Bear, what's happening in the aging program in Maui these days?

Bear Tavares: Well, I tell you, Bob, things are going pretty good.

We just completed with the Senate hearing on Maui.

This was sometime early in January, and things are looking real good as far as the whole state is concerned for, for the elderly people.

I think this fine.

Bob Barker: You have any projects underway right now?

Bear Tavares: Yes, sir.

We do.

Right now, we have a nutrition project running in the Puʻunēnē and Kahului area.

And another project we're going to start very soon be the defensive driving course for all the elderly people in the island of Maui.

This is in conjunction with the police department, and hopefully, once the elderly complete their eight-hour course, we can get cheaper insurance rates for these people.

Bob Barker: Yeah, but are you going to be able to get gas for the course?

Bear Tavares: No.

Well, see the course, I mean, Bob, is we taking out the application phase of the course itself.

This should strictly be a lecture conference type.

Bob Barker: You don’t actually go out in the car?

Bear Tavares: That is correct.

So, we'll be showing them films, the new laws and statutes of the state of Hawaiʻi, and hopefully educate our elderly people as far as good driving habits is concerned within the county.

Another thing that we putting across now because of the energy, energy crisis is I have made up two checklists: one for the conservation of electricity, and the other one is for gasoline, and hopefully going through the 20 odd clubs that we have on Maui, leaving this checklist with the clubs themselves, explaining the different things that we put down there, so that they can, you know, really use the gasoline and electricity the best without, you know wasting the thing in any way.

Bob Barker: Sounds very good, Bear.

Thank you.

Bear Tavares: My pleasure, sir.

Bob Barker: This is Annie Smith, secretary of the Hanalani Senior Citizen Club.

How many members do you have in the club, Annie?

Annie Smith: Well, actually, we have about more than 30, but 25, about 25 active members.

Bob Barker: Active members, uh huh.

Annie Smith: Yeah.

Bob Barker: How long have you belonged to the club?

Annie Smith: Well, I belong.

I joined the club about three years ago.

Bob Barker: How old is the club do you know?

Annie Smith: The club’s about four years old now.

Bob Barker: About four years old.

When do you meet?

Annie Smith: We meet once a month, and that's about the last Monday of the month.

Bob Barker: Last Monday of each month.

Annie Smith: Yes, unless something turns up and Jenny has to be taken away to something else that's important, we change our meeting.

We may just don't have a meeting for that month, or we can have it at the early part of the following month.

Bob Barker: Now, Hāna is a rather remote spot.

Do you ever go on any excursions as a club?

Annie Smith: Yes, we do.

But once in a great while we go to Wailuku because transportation is rather hard.

Bob Barker: Tough now, yes, mm hmm.

Annie Smith: Right.

But then, right in Hāna alone we do.

We go out to Waiʻānapanapa.

Or to like, out at Seven Pools in Kipahulu.

Once we've had a meeting down at my place, and I live in Kipahulu, also.

Bob Barker: Oh, yes.

Okay, well thanks Annie.

Annie Smith: You're very welcome.

Bob Barker: And playing his ʻukulele in the background, some of the time, has been Pablo Laong.

Pablo Laong: Yes.

Bob Barker: Pablo, how old are you?

Pablo Laong: Just…75.

Bob Barker: 75 now.

Pablo Laong: Yes.

Hawaiʻi this day 1917, come to Hawaiʻi.

Bob Barker: You came to Hawaiʻi in 1917?

Pablo Laong: Yeah.

Bob Barker: Where from?

Just, before I come, Kapahulu.

Kapahulu place.

It’s a… Bob Barker: How long have you lived in Hāna?

Pablo Laong: Hāna, just about 40 year.

Bob Barker: About 40 years, huh?

Pablo Laong: Yeah.

Bob Barker: What kind of work did you do?

Pablo Laong: Pipi, the cowboy was, bumbai me captain.

Bumbai me (inaudible).

Any kine my job, before.

Yeah, okay.

Bob Barker: You work now?

Pablo Laong: No.

No.

Pension.

Bob Barker: Retired now, huh?

Pablo Laong: Yeah, pension.

Bob Barker: How long have you belonged to this Hanalani Senior Citizen Club?

Pablo Laong: This uh Bob Barker: This group here, how long have you… Pablo Laong: Whole pay before, whole pay.

This year now, only the security.

Bob Barker Uh huh.

Pablo Laong: Security government.

And the one month, $130.

One month security.

Before the whole pay and only 85.

Sometime 55.

Sometime 56.

Or go down, bumbai up 85.

Bumbai go down again, 70 Bumbai go down in 70 I put the government, put the security office.

And put the security 130.

One month, this year.

Only this year.

Bob Barker: 130 this year.

Pablo Laong: Yeah.

This year, this year it start.

Bob Barker: Mm hmm.

Very good.

Okay thanks Pablo.

Pablo Laong: Yeah, okay.

Bob Barker: This is Jenny Chang, aide in consumer education for the elderly and community aide with the Maui Economic Opportunity Incorporated.

Jenny, is this somewhat of a typical meeting of the Hanalani Club?

Jenny Chang: Yes, it is, Bob.

Bob Barker: They do their individual craft work and… Jenny Chang: Individual craft work, yes.

Whatever they have.

And they bring at each meeting and do it.

Bob Barker: This, I gather, is a lei-making process here.

Jenny Chang: Yes, this is Rose Dipan who is doing a bougainvillea lei.

Bob Barker: Do they make many, do they make leis from bougainvillea very much?

Jenny Chang: Right.

Yes, they do.

Bob Barker: Isn’t that quite fragile, though?

Does it hold up well?

Jenny Chang: No, no, it isn't.

And we’ve got beautiful leis made from it.

Bob Barker: Takes a lot of blossoms though, doesn’t it?

Jenny Chang: Yes, it does.

Bob Barker: And then, of course, here another type.

Jenny Chang: This is another type that we call the haku lei.

This is Marie Silva, and she is an artist in the haku lei making.

Bob Barker: Marie, did you decorate your own hat?

Marie Silva: Yes.

Bob Barker: Beautiful.

Marie Silva: Yes, I did.

Bob Barker: She is an artist, huh?

Jenny Chang: Right.

Bob Barker: And various work.

And now, the Hawaiian quilt making, is this right?

Jenny Chang: Right.

Yes.

And this is here is Luʻukia Pelekai and she does this quilt making beautifully.

She’s made several, you know.

Bob Barker: I wonder, could I interrupt you just long enough to hold that up a little bit so we can see how pretty it is.

Yes, very, very nice.

How many quilts do you think you have made?

Do you know how many quilts you've made?

Luukia Pelekai: Didn’t count.

Bob Barker: Didn’t count.

Okay, and what have we, oh some, what is this, knitting?

Lil Chaffee: Yes.

Bob Barker: Knitting.

What are you knitting?

Lil Chaffee: Well, I’m making some potholders with the owl’s face on them.

Bob Barker: Oh yes.

Lil Chaffee: And they’ve been, went over very big.

I made a lot of them for Christmas, and I had lots of fun with them.

Bob Barker: Fine.

Jenny Chang: And this is Lil Chaffee Bob Barker: Oh yes.

Jenny Chang: Yes, she's visiting here, but she's been visiting over a year.

Bob Barker: Your visit is getting a little extended, huh?

Lil Chaffee: She doesn’t know enough to go home.

Bob Barker: Oh, is that it?

And lauhala work, huh?

Jenny Chang: Yes.

She has the leaves that you would, that she has stripped, (inaudible) stripper, Nani?

Do you have your stripper?

Right.

Bob Barker: Oh, this is the… Jenny Chang: Yes, yes.

Bob Barker: This is the stripper.

Jenny Chang: That she would strip, yes, the lauhala leaves to get this… Bob Barker: Get these strips here like that?

Jenny Chang: Yes, that size, right.

Bob Barker: That’s exactly that width between those, needles or nails, I guess.

Nani Kaina: Nails.

Bob Barker: Nails.

Nani Kaina: Then make out of hat.

Bob Barker: Oh, and make the hats, uh huh.

Very good.

Very good.

Jenny Chang: And this is Nani Kaina Bob Barker: Nani.

Jenny Chang: Nani Kaina.

Bob Barker: I see you’ve got a lot of work, a lot of work ahead of you here.

Nani Kaina: Right.

Bob Barker: And some more lauhala work.

Jenny Chang: Some more lauhala work and this is Anna Kahalawahi.

Bob Barker: Anna, what are you making there?

Anna Kahalawahi: A basket.

Bob Barker: A basket, mm hmm.

Ann Kahalawahi: Yes.

Bob Barker: Who made this hat here?

Anna Kahalawahi: I made it.

Bob Barker: You made that hat?

Anna Kahalawahi: Uh huh.

Bob Barker: That’s very nice.

Let me hold that up once.

Oh, yes, yes.

That’s nice, mm-hmm.

And then here’s another haku lei, is that right?

Jenny Chang: Yes, it is.

Bob Barker: And who is this making the… Jenny Chang: This is Ella Morris.

Bob Barker: Ella, Ella Morris: Yeah.

Bob Barker: What is this in your hat?

Is that some kind of a…what’s it made of?

Jenny Chang: Egg carton.

Ella Morris: Egg carton.

Bob Barker: Egg carton!

Whoa, that's very attractive.

You're an artist in both flowers and plastics, huh?

Jenny Chang: Yes, she has a beautiful garden.

You know, she just loves flowers.

This green thumb.

This is her husband.

Bob Barker: What are you doing?

Are you fanning her to keep her?

Mr.

Morris: Yeah, yeah, that’s what I’m trying to do.

Bob Barker: Okay.

Uh-huh.

And another… Jenny Chang: Another haku.

Bob Baker: Well, this has some different flowers in it now.

Jenny Chang: Yes, using the allamanda and the pentas and bougainvillea and marigolds.

And she has it on the lauaʻe leaves that she is weaving.

And this is Kalani Navarro.

Bob Barker: Kalani, what kind of string do you use?

Just ordinary string?

Kalani Navarro: Mm-hmm.

Bob Barker: Just ordinary string, uh-huh.

Oh, that’s very attractive.

Oh, now here’s something different.

What is this?

Jenny Chang: This… Bob Barker: Shell, are those shells?

Rebecca Eyster: These are Job’s tears.

Bob Barker: Job’s tears.

Rebecca Eyster: Yes, and I raised them here in Hana.

And it’s the only seed that has its own puka or hole.

Bob Barker: The hole’s already there.

Rebecca Eyster: The hole’s already there.

Made by the stem through, that grows through them.

Bob Barker: Oh, yes.

What is your name?

Rebecca Eyster: Rebecca Eyster.

Retired school teacher.

Bob Barker: Oh, what did you teach?

Rebecca Eyter: Oh, just about everything from the fifth through the 12th grade.

Bob Barker: Did you teach here?

Rebecca Eyster: Yes, I taught in Hāna and retired here.

Bob Barker: Oh, how nice.

Rebecca Eyster: I feel so…the uh… Bob Barker: And you have a seed lei on your hat, huh?

Rebecca Eyster: Yes.

Bob Barker: All different types of seeds?

Rebecca Eyster: That’s made of kaʻeʻe and Job’s tears.

Bob Barker: Oh, yes.

Rebecca Eyster: We used to find the kaʻeʻe seed here on the bay.

Bob Barker: Do these Job’s tears last a long time?

Rebecca Eyster: They last forever.

Bob Barker: Oh, they will?

Rebecca Eyster: Yes.

Bob Barker: Nice.

Mm-hmm.

Jenny Change: Do you have the Hawaiian name for that?

Rebecca Eyster: It has a Hawaiian name waimaka o Iopa, which actually means water eye of Job.

They told me that was no word in Hawaiian for the tears.

So they put together eye water.

Bob Barker: Oh, isn’t that interesting?

Rebecca Eyster: The water of the eye of Job.

Bob Barker: Oh, yes, uh-huh.

Now some more hala work.

Jenny Chang: Yes, and this is Lei Kuailani.

And she is doing in the process of doing part of the hat, that we’ll make, you know.

Bob Barker: Well, Lei, I can’t even see you under that big hat.

Jenny Chang: And of course, she has a maile.

Bob Barker: Maile?

Jenny Chang: This is grown, found right out here in Hāna.

Bob Barker: Aha.

Jenny Chang: Mm-hmm.

Her boys have picked them, up in the mountains.

This is Mary Ann Olivera, of Hāna.

Long-time resident here.

Bob Barker: Mary Ann, mm-hmm.

Janny Chang: Yes.

Bob Barker: And then, still more hala work.

Jenny Chang: Yes, and this is tūtū Haya.

Yes, she’s a retired teacher.

Tutu Haya: Peekaboo!

Bob Barker: Peaking through that…haha.

Peekaboo, haha.

Jenny Chang: Yeah.

She’s a retired teacher.

Bob Barker: What did you teach, all grades, too?

Tutu Haya: Mm-hmm.

My husband was principal so he said, so-and-so is absent, you better take this class.

So, I have to take that class.

Bob Barker: Oh, oh.

Tutu Haya: All the way.

Bob Barker: So, the husband was the boss of the school so you did what he said, huh?

Tutu Haya: Yes.

Bob Barker: Now another basket, huh?

Jenny Chang: Yes, this is a lauhala basket.

And the weave is a little different from the others.

Bob Barker: And it’s a wide, it looks like a wider strip.

Is it a wider strip than the others?

Annie Smith: Yes, it is.

This is about a half inch.

Bob Barker: And you are Annie Smith, aren’t you?

Annie Smith: I am Annie Smith, yes.

Bob Barker: Annie Smith was just, what, nominated?

Jenny Chang: She was nominated as our nominee, for the woman of the year for Hanalani Club.

Bob Barker: Hmm.

Very good.

Very good.

And then, we’re doing some more work over here on Evelyn Cooper: Just softerning lauhala.

Bob Barker: Oh is that the way you soften... Evelyn Cooper: Just softening lauhala Bob Barker: Roll it up and… Evelyn Cooper: Yeah, and stretch it and roll it and soften it.

Bob Barker: Do you ever use anything like water or anything like that?

Evelyn Cooper: No, no, no.

Bob Barker: That doesn’t soften it.

That makes it stiff, huh?

Evelyn Cooper: No, you just, yeah, just… Bob Barker: Just work with it.

Evelyn Cooper: Yeah.

Bob Barker: Mm-hmm.

Evelyn Cooper: And then make it into rolls.

Jenny Chang: She is also a retired teacher and kamaʻaina family, a long-time here in Hāna.

Bob Barker: Primary teacher, you say?

Evelyn Cooper: Primary teacher.

Bob Barker: Mm-hmm.

Evelyn Cooper: Taught all my life in Hāna.

Bob Barker: Oh boy.

It’s a good place to be a teacher, I’ll bet.

Jenny Change: Yes.

That’s Miss Cooper, Evelyn Cooper.

Bob Barker: All right, now we’re going to have another song.

(Singing) ʻO Makalapua ulumāhiehie ʻO ka lei o Kamakaʻeha No Kamakaʻeha ka lei na Liʻawahine Nā wāhine kīhene pua E lei hoʻi, e Liliʻulani ē E lei hoʻi, e Liliʻulani ē E lei hoʻi, e Liliʻulani ē E lei hoʻi, e Liliʻulani ē Bob Barker: On the island of Maui, far from Waikīkī, there’s a place called Hāna that is heavenly.

And when you go there, you’ve got to see the Hasegawa General Store.

(Singing) Maui, far from Waikīkī, there’s a place called Hāna that is heavenly.

And when you go there, you’ve got to see the Hasegawa General Store.

For as you walk through the doorway… Bob Barker: And that’s where we are.

The Hasegawa General Store.

And this is Toshimasa Hasegawa.

Toshi, how long has the store been established here?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, I think over 60 years.

Bob Barker: 60 years.

And who started it?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: My father started it.

Bob Barker; Your father.

Now, you are retired now, huh?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Oh, I’m semi.

Bob Barker: Semi-retired.

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Until I reach age of 65.

Then I’ll fully retired.

Bob Barker: Oh, I see.

Who’s running the store?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Oh, my son, Harry.

Bob Barker: Harry's running the store.

What do you do in your semi-retirement?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, planning to do lots of painting, oil painting.

Bob Barker: Oil painting.

Did you just take that up recently, or have you?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, I I took it up almost five to six years, now.

Bob Barker: Six years ago.

You got any paintings that we can see?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, yeah.

There’s one in the store, hanging on the wall above the office.

Bob Barker: Good, oh, fine.

Now, you have just about anything and everything in the store here.

Who decides, and how do you decide what to stock?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, it’s all depend on the customers, too.

Bob barker: The customers.

You have two kinds of customers to satisfy here, huh?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: That’s right.

We have a local trade and a tourist trade.

Bob Barker: A lot of tourists.

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Quite a bit.

Bob barker: Of course, that’s all the result, or much of that a result of the song, huh?

“The Hasegawa General Store?” Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, that’s true, that’s true.

Bob Barker: Now, is this the original store?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: No, this is an entirely new building we built.

This old building was just next of this building.

Bob Barker: Uh-huh.

But this is a new building.

When did you build this thing?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Oh, let’s see.

Bob Barker: Is it pretty much the same size as the old?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: No, we made it a little bigger.

Bob Barker: Little bigger, little bigger.

Uh huh.

Is your business seasonal?

Do you get more business at certain times of the year?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, summertime is very busy.

Bob Barker: That's because of the tourists.

Toshimasa Hasegawa: That’s right.

Bob Barker: You've had, I suppose, many famous people visit here.

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Oh yeah, we had, we had, we had quite a bit.

Bob Barker: Who are, can you tell, you remember some of them?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, let me see.

Clark Gable, Shirley Temple, Susan Hayward.

Oh, quite a few more, but uh.

Bob Barker: Now, Charles Lindbergh lives here in the neighborhood.

Does he ever come in here?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, he was in here this morning with Missus.

Bob Barker: He was in here this morning, was he?

Uh-huh, uh-huh.

Your bumper sticker, which is a rather unusual item that is for sale here, and how did you happen to start this?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, I understand that we got the idea from the somebody from California, I guess.

Bob Barker: Where they have plenty of smog.

Toshimasa Hasegawa: That's right.

Yeah.

Bob Barker: So, you picked up the idea, and the bumper sticker says, fight smog, buy horses, Hasagawa General Store.

Far from Waikīkī.

Toshimasa Hasegawa: That’s right.

Bob Barker: Are you implying a little bit of smog in Waikīkī there?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Whoa, I don’t know.

Bob Barker: What item would you say has been one of those that you’ve sold the longest from the beginning that you still sell today?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, let me see, maybe horseshoe, horseshoe nail.

Bob Barker: Horseshoe, you still sell hoseshoes?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: We do.

Bob Barker: Of course, there are a lot of riding horses here.

Toshimasa Hasegawa: That’s right.

Not only here, Kaupō District.

Bob Barker: Yeah, all the ranches.

A lot of cattle, cattle being raised around here.

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Ah, that's right.

Bob Barker: The, you have every kind of hat imaginable, I see.

even some from far off places.

Like I see an Australian-type hat here.

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Yeah.

Bob Barker: And a sweatshirt or T-shirts with Hasegawa General Store over the front.

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Mm-hmm.

Bob Barker: Uh-huh.

Do you do you sort of think about sometimes getting back in here in the store and telling Harry how to run it?

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, sometimes I do.

You see, I always try to get away from the store and let let Harry do everything.

So I come back once in a while, maybe two weeks in, you know, in two weeks, maybe couple of days or three days.

I stay in Hāna.

Then I go back to my, another home in Kahului.

Bob Barker: Well Toshi, thanks very much for letting us talk about the Hasegawa General Store.

Toshimasa Hasegawa: Well, thank you for coming and see us.

(Singing) ...Far from Waikīkī There’s a place called Hāna that is heavenly And when you go there you gotta see The Hasegawa General Store For as you walk through the doorway, what a great surprise There’s a wonderul variety of merchandise It’s all spread out there, before your eyes At the Hasegawa General Store You’ll find a baseball bat a paniolo hat, sunburn creams, the latest magazines Muʻumuʻu and mangoes, and ʻukuleles, too Even hamburger for a malahini like you They say a cheerful aloha when you first go by A sweet mahalo nui when you say goodbye You can’t resist it, once you try The Hasegawa General Store You got to walk very slowly as your tour begins Throught the pineapples and cereals and bobby pins And spears and goggles and swimming fins At the Hasegawa General Store If you want to lamalama they’ve got kerosene You want a lomi lomi they’ve got rubbing cream And some guava jelly that’s just supreme At the Hasegawa General Store They’ve got kukui nuts, assorted cold cuts Surfers’ pants, papaya plants A shiny koa calabash to catch your eye Some ʻōkolehao when your throat gets dry So if you’re ever, ever in Hāna with some time to spare You got to holoholo down to you know where You just name it, They've got it there at the Hasegawa general store.

They've got kukui nuts, assorted cold cuts, surfers pants and papaya plants, a shiny Koa calabash to catch your eye, Some ʻōkolehao when your throat gets dry.

So if you ever if you're ever in Hāna with some time to spare, you got to trot down to you know where.

You just name it, they’ve got it there, at The Hasegawa General Store.

Bob Barker: And that’s Pau Hana Years for today.

A visit where the term paradise comes to life, heavenly Hāna, on the eastern tip of the Valley Isle of Maui.

Until our next program, this is Bob Barker leaving you with this thought: The man who lives by himself and for himself is apt to be corrupted by the company he keeps.

(Singing) Try to remember when life was so tender That no one wept except the willow Try to remember when life was so tender That dreams were kept beside your pillow Try to remember when life was so tender That love was an ember about to billow PBS Hawaiʻi Classics is sponsored by the Olson Trust.