Try to remember, Try to remember Pau Hana Years a new day for older Americans.

A time for living.

Your host Bob Barker.

Bob Barker: Hi and welcome to the program for and by the senior citizens of Hawaii.

Today, Pau Hana Years is on the Big Island to visit Huliheʻe Palace built on the shores of Kailua-Kona 138 years ago by Governor John Adams Kuakini and for the past 50 years has been maintained as a Hawaiian museum by the daughters of Hawaiʻi.

(Chanting) ʻAe Te atua ua lau i ta laʻi ē. E hea wale i luna au o Kuahunui Te atua pee i ta lau ti ʻeleʻele ʻO hā matua i tui lei tui no ouou i ke lei no makou ae.

Keu ka ʻō Ke Aloha kaukau ē.

(Chanting) (Kaulilua i ke anu ʻo Waiʻaleʻale) Kaulilua i ke anu ʻo Waiʻaleʻale ʻO ka maka hālalo ka lehua makanoe ʻO ka lihilihi kūkū ʻia no ʻAipo ʻO ka hulu ʻaʻa ʻia ʻo Hauaʻiliki A i pēhiʻa ka ua ʻeha i ka nahele E māui e ka pua uwē ʻeha i ke anu ʻO ke kūkuna lā wai lehu Mokihana Ua hana ʻia e ka pono a ua pololei Ua haʻina ʻia aku nō iā ʻoe ʻO ke ola mai nei Nā kiaʻi loko (Kīʻei Kaʻula nānā i ka makani) Kīʻei Kaʻula nānā i ka makani Hoʻolono ka halulu O Ka Mālua Kele Kiʻei hālō Makaikiolea Kāmau ka ʻea i kāmau Hālauaola He kula lima ia no Wāwaenoho Me he pūkoa haka lā i Waʻahila Ka momoku a ka unu ʻUnulau o Lehua A lehulehu kē ka pono Leʻa ka haʻawina Ke ʻala mai nei o ka puka o ka hale He Inoa no Kalākaua (Singing) Oli nō kou inoa A he hiwahiwa ʻoe na ka mākua A he lani ʻoe no ʻoukou A he milimili hoʻi na mākou Mele ʻo nā lani kou inoa A he hiwahiwa ʻoe na ka mākua A he lani ʻoe no ʻoukou A he milimili hoʻi na mākou Iolani Luahine: Aloha!

Aloha mai, Bob.

Lōʻihi loa a hiki hou.

It’s been a long time.

Bob Barker: Yes, yes, it has.

Iolani Luahine: We’ve seen each other.

Welcome to Huliheʻe Palace.

Bob Barker: Thank you very much.

Iolani Luahine: Welcome, my dear.

And may I have the pleasure of introducing you to our chairman, Daughters of Hawaiʻi, Mrs. Edward Nobriga Barbara Nobriga: Hi, Bob.

Bob Barker: Nice to meet you.

Barbara Nobriga: Just call me Barbara.

Bob Barker: Thank you, Barbara.

Barbara Nobriga: And welcome to Huliheʻe.

Bob Barker: Thank you.

I'd like to talk to you, Barbara, about the palace and where we are right now.

First, the daughters of Hawaii.

How old is this organization?

Barbara Nobriga: We were founded in 1903 by seven kamaaina women who foresaw the probability of our loss of our Hawaiian heritage through the encroaching of the Western Civilization.

And they dedicated their organization to the perpetuation of our heritage.

Bob Barker: How many members do you have?

Barbara Nobriga: We have over 1000 members now.

Bob Barker: Ooh, that’s a good size and growth.

Barbara Nobriga: Yes.

Bob Barker: What type of work do you do as an organization?

Barbara Nobriga: Right now we dedicate our organization to the maintenance of two very fine museums, the Queen Emma Summer Palace in Honolulu and the Huliheʻe Palace here in Kailua.

Bob Barker: Hulihee, when, when was it built?

How old is it?

Barbara Nobriga: It was built in 1837 by Governor John Adams Kuakini.

Who at one time governed the islands from here.

Bob Barker: Did he build it as a home, was that it?

Barbara Nobriga: Yes.

Bob Barker: His own home to live in?

And then, who later owned it?

It was passed down through the years I suppose.

Barbara Nobriga: It was.

King Kalākaua used this as his summer home.

And the last era was Prince Cupid Kalanianaʻole.

Bob Barker: When did the Daughters of Hawaiʻi assume the responsibility for it as a museum?

Barbara Nobriga: In 1927.

In 1971 we really firmed this up by signing a 65 year lease with the State Department of Land and Natural Resources.

Bob Barker: What uh, Where do you get your financial support?

Barbara Nobriga: We depend solely on donations monetary and whatever visitor flow we have come through.

Bob Barker: There is an admission for the visitors then?

There is an admission for the visitors then there is $1 for adults and 50 cents for children.

Bob Barker: How many visitors do you have in say, a month or a year or something like that?

Barbara Norbriga: Well, in the first 11 months of this year, we had over 32,000 visitors right here in Hulihee.

Bob Barker: Oh boy, that’s a lot of traffic.

Barbara Nobriga: Yes, yes.

Bob Barker: Now we’re in the midst of some wonderful historical furniture and artifacts and pieces of furniture here.

Would you tell us about some of the pieces that are in this room?

Barbara Nobriga: Well we have that very beautiful teak slideboard there that King Kalākaua ordered from Boston in the 1880s sometime and it now belongs to the Daughters.

It is a permanent residence of the palace.

Bob Barker: I see, uh huh, and an unusual desk.

Barbara Nobriga: That also belonged to King Kalākaua and it’s on loan here.

It belongs to the state of Hawaiʻi.

Would you like to step over and sign our register?

Bob Barker: Oh, yes, very well.

Barbara Nobriga: Bob, these girls are our staff members here at Huliheʻe.

Bob Barker: Good morning.

Staff: Good morning.

Bob Barker: And is this where I’m supposed to sign?

Staff: Mm hmm.

Bob Barker: Bob Barker, Pau Hana Years, Honolulu, okay.

Staff: We’d like you to have one of our brochures, Mr. Barker.

Bob Barker: Oh, thank you very much.

Staff: Enjoy your visit.

Bob Barker: Thank you very much.

Josephine Norton: Aloha.

Bob Barker: Aloha.

Josephine Norton: Bob, how are you today?

Bob Barker: Josephine Norton, another daughter of Hawaiʻi.

Josephine Norton: Yes.

Bob Barker: What is this room Josephine?

Josephine Norton: It is our dining room and of course as the museum we call it the Kuhio room.

Bob Barker: The Kūhiō room?

Josephine Norton: Yes.

Bob Barker: Quite a table setting here.

Josephine Norton: Yes, I would like to talk about these dishes that we have here.

This was the only design designed for our, for Hawaiʻi.

And this was an original piece, as you can see.

And it was designed by Roger Williams’s grandfather.

And then this here later on it was the patent was taken to England.

And then D.O.H.

Davis put it out.

And then this patent here was put out by The Diamond, by Diamond and Company.

Bob Barker: Is there a name for this pattern?

Josephine Norton: Yes, this is what we call the lokelani pattern.

And this was the original, named after our Hawaiian roses.

Bob Barker: Oh the lokelani rose.

Josephine Norton: Yeah, they are raised in Hawaii and it is very fragrant.

It isn't anything like any other rose around the world.

These roses are raised in Hawaiʻi.

And so the pattern was made after the flowers.

A type of dishes was sold amongst all the elite Hawaiians, but the set of dishes it was stylish to England at that time.

Bob Barker: Oh yes.

Josephine Norton: And also, I would like to point out this table was made of solid koa, and it was done amongst one of our biggest koa tree, and that it's made of one piece, because the bottoms were joined up.

Joined to it.

Bob Barker: Yes, mm hm.

Josephine Norton: And I would like to point out that this chair, chairs here belongs to King Kamehameha V and that was a model that they worked on the statue there that designed the original statue in Kōhala and Honolulu Oh yes, yes.

And of course these are donations are different koa dishes that we have here and those were used on large parties large painas or lūʻaus.

And this is a very lovely piece of koa that was done by a Chinese prisoner who was served 30 years in prison and that is done of kou, the dark designs.

Bob Barker: You mean he did it while he was in prison?

Josephine Norton: While he was in prison.

But it is to be said that this man was kept that many years because Kalā, he did a lot of things for Kalākaua, King Kalākaua.

So there was not only this piece there were many other little things that he did and very beautiful work that he did do.

And that chest there that where the dishes are in is belonged to Prince Princess Elizabeth.

Uh huh.

Wife of Prince Cupid Kalanianaʻole.

And that chest there belonged to Prince Kūhiō.

And of course when Miss when Queen Kapiʻolani died.

She had only two heirs that was her two nephews that was adopted by she and the king.

And that was David Kalākaua Kawananakoa.

And then Prince Kūhiō, Jonah Kūhiō, Kalanianaʻole.

So all of this was left to the two nephews and Prince Kalanianaʻole was the last heir to Huliheʻe Palace.

Bob Barker: And Josephine what is this chest over here?

Josephine Norton: This chest here belonged to Queen Kapiʻolani.

And it's very interesting to see she took this chest all the way up to England when she went on Queen Elizabeth's 50th, Queen Victoria's 50th Jubilee.

And it is interesting to see how this type of lining was done by lead.

Bob Barker: Lead, lead lining?

Josephine Norton: Lead lining.

And of course here we have the Third Order of the Sacred that was given to King Kalākaua, Sacred Order the Third by Emperor Meiji.

Bob Barker: Of Japan.

Josephine Noron: Of Japan.

Bob Barker: They’re all kinds of things in here.

Josephine Norton: Yes, and most of these things are the Bakers’ collection.

A lot of these things are the Bakers’ collection, which we are going to, after our restoration, have on display.

Bob Barker: Now she used this as sort of a trunk or chest?

Josephine Norton: This held, yes.

And this held all of her state clothes.

Bob Baker: Oh, I see.

Josephine Norton: They dresses that she had to wea, wear whenever there was a state affair.

Bob Barker: With that lead lining must have weighed a ton.

Josephine Norton: Yes.

Bob Barker: And in another room downstairs we find Josephine Barry.

What is this room, Josephine?

Josephine Barry: The Kuakini room, named after its founder.

And it contains displays and all three wardrobes of ancient artifacts and donated by interesting families to the palace.

Bob Barker: Now this, what is this a cupboard?

or a Josephine Barry: This is a wardrobe that belonged to King Kalākaua.

And as you see there's a guitar that belonged to him there, too.

Most of the things in there belonged to Kalākaua and King Kamehameha.

Bob Barker: Mm hm.

Right right behind you is a big stone ball.

What is that?

Josephine Barry: Now this is King Kamehameha’s bowling ball.

Bob Barker: Bowling ball?

Josephine Barry: Bowling ball.

Bob Barker: He actually picked it up?

Josephine Barry: Oh yes!

He exercised each day with it.

That was his exercise stone.

That’s what he used to exercise with.

And in the display cases, you find artifacts of a, for fishermen.

Who use, still use them like the squid hooks and the, of course, the poi pounders that they use for making poi.

Families in the outskirts of town still use the poi pounders to use and for their poi.

Bob Barker: What is this piece of wood right down here in front of the cabinet?

Josephine Barry: That's the anvil that they use to beat tapa with.

And the tapa beaters are in the display case.

Bob Barker: Oh I see.

They put the tapa on top of the wood and then beat it.

Josephine Barry: They put the bark on top of the wood and beat it with the tapa beaters.

Bob Barker: And then over here?

Josephine Barry: Over here is Queen Emma’s mother’s traveling bed.

Bob Barker: A traveling bed?

Josephine Barry: Yes, traveling Bob Barker: Looks like a big coffee table.

Josephine Barry: Well, she traveled, wherever she traveled she picked that bed up and Bob Barker: Took it with her.

Josephine Barry: Took it with her.

And that case, the wardrobe belonged to Queen Kapiolani.

It contains artifacts like a 200 year old calabash.

Bob Barker: Oh yes.

Josephine Barry: That's made out of koa.

And of course those days calabashes were used for most everything.

That, the display case there is, contains all the um lei hulu and the the flower, flower leis that were symbolic of rank and nobility.

Bob Barker: Oh.

Josephine Barry: That’s the poi board there or pig board that use nowadays.

Bob Barker: Oh, uh huh.

Josephine Barry: And that's the wardrobe that belonged to Queen Emma and their tapa in there that was made by wauke with the tapa beaters and those things that you see there.

That’s the kāhili, a standard bearer that’s used as symb, as a symbol of royalty.

And that’s the fish god.

Bob Barker: Oh the fish god?

Josephine Barry: Fish god.

And it's usually displayed in a simp, in a conspicuous place, outside in a yard.

To lure the fish Bob Barker: Oh to lure the fish in, oh.

Josephine Barry: Lure fish in, and give it good luck.

Bob Barker: And in this room, Cynthia Sailey invited us to sit down.

Cynthia, what is this room?

Cynthia Sailey: This is the upstairs sitting room.

Bob Barker: Upstairs, most of the old homes had upstairs sitting rooms didn’t they?

Cynthia Sailey: They did, right.

A place to relax.

Bob Barker: Mm hm.

So you didn’t have to run downstairs to sit down.

Cynthia Sailey: Right.

Bob Barker: Over here, this little, cute little footstool.

Cynthia Sailey: That’s Kalākaua’s footstool.

It's a tiny, wonderful little gem right there.

Now Bob Barker: It matches the chair.

Cynthia Sailey: It matches the chair.

However, the chair we don't know much about because it came with the palace when the daughters acquired Bob Barker: Oh I see.

Cynthia Sailey: Acquired it.

Bob Barker: And the table and chairs over here?

Cynthia Sailey: That table is also Kalākaua’s table.

It's quite ornate, very heavily carved.

Bob Barker: What is the top?

Cynthia Sailey: The top is marble.

There’s an inlaid marble top.

Bob Barker: Well now these little tables here seem to match that table.

Are they a set?

Cynthia Sailey: No they're not a set.

They do match very well and because of this a friend of Hulihee donated them to the palace.

Bob Barker: It seems to have the same type of marble and almost same type of carving.

Cynthia Sailey: Same carving, the same beading around the top.

Bob Barker: It’s a very comfortable room.

Cynthia Sailey: It is, right.

Bob Barker: Thank you very much.

Cynthia Sailey.

You’re very welcome.

Bob Barker: And now we get a chance to sit down with Emelia Burgess.

Emelia, what room is this in the palace?

Emelia Burgess: This room is in honor of Princess Ruth Keʻelikōlani.

Shes the granddaughter of King Kamehameha the First.

She was married to Leleiohoku, son of Governor Kuakini.

And Governor Kuakini was the first owner and and original owner and builder of the Huliheʻe Palace.

When Governor Kuakini died, he left the palace to his son, Leleiohoku.

They later left, left the palace to their son.

And when he died it was inherited by Princess Ruth.

So she was the owner who lived here at the palace.

Bob Barker: Now this enormous chair you are sitting in.

Emelia Burgess: Now this was made specially for Princess Ruth and it’s made of koa.

Bob Barker: She was a large woman, wasn’t she?

Emelia Burgess: She was very heavy, very kind, and the people loved her.

Bob Barker: Now would you tell us about some of the things that are in the room here?

Emelia Burgess: Yes, this hat box here is made of the base of a coconut tree and the cover and the stand are made of koa.

Koa is a beautiful, heavy wood that we use, the Hawaiians have use a lot of.

The koa bed there was on the premises on Huliheʻe Palace when Princess Ruth lived here.

That was you know her bed here at the palace.

This coffer chest in front of the bed was in her home in Honolulu.

She had a very beautiful home in Honolulu, Keōua Hale, where that came from and in it she kept her private papers.

The chest of drawers that you see back there is owned by Princess Ruth and that also was in Keoua Hale on Honolulu.

And that also can be converted into a desk.

Bob Barker: Oh.

Emelia Burgess: This here is a wardrobe that belonged to Queen Kapiolani.

And it's made of sandalwood and it's inlaid with pearl that was made in China.

Bob Barker: Pearl inlay.

Emelia Burgess: The legacy that we get from Princess Ruth Keelikolani is priceless.

She died May 24th, 1884 right here on the palace grounds.

She had a grass hut built right our here in front of the palace.

She left a lot of her vast, she owned a lot of land.

She left a lot of it to her cousin, Bernice Pauahi Bishop and then that in turn was is a foundation of the Kamehameha Schools.

It was left to the Bishop Estate and that now is the sole Bob Barker: Support of the Emelia Burgess: Support of the Kamehameha Schools.

Bob Barker: Mm hm.

Well thank you vey much Emelia it’s very interesting.

(Chanting) (ʻAuʻa ʻia) (ʻAuʻa ʻia) ʻAuʻa ʻia e Kama e kona moku ʻO kona moku ē Kama ē ʻauʻa ʻia ʻO ke kama kama kama kama i ka hulu nuʻu ʻO ke kama kama kama kama i ka huli au Hulihia pāpio a i lalo i ke alo Hulihia i ke alo o kū ka Makiʻilohelohe ʻO ka hana ana i hiki ʻōhulehule Kaʻa ʻia ka ʻalihi aʻo pōhaku kū Me ka ʻupena aku aʻo ihu aniani Me ka unu o Niuolaniolaʻa ʻO Keawe ʻai kū ʻai a laʻahia ʻAuʻa ʻia e Kama e kona moku ʻO kona moku ē Kama ē ʻauʻa ʻia ʻO ke kama kama kama kama i ka hulu nuʻu ʻO ke kama kama kama kama i ka huli au Hulihia pāpio a i lalo i ke alo Hulihia i ke alo o kū ka Makiʻilohelohe ʻO ka hana ana i hiki ʻōhulehule Kaʻa ʻia ka ʻalihi aʻo pōhaku kū Me ka ʻupena aku aʻo ihu aniani Me ka unu o Niuolaniolaʻa ʻO Keawe ai ku ai a laʻahia Nāna i halapepe ka honua o ka moku I hāʻale ʻia i ke kiu welo ka i ka puʻu Ko welo lohi aʻo Kanaloa He inoa (Chanting) (Ae ko mai hoeueu) Kō maʻi hōʻeuʻeu Hōʻeke pue ana ʻoe Kō maʻi hoʻeuʻeu Hōʻeke pue ana ʻoe Hoʻike i ka mea nui O Hālala i ka nuku manu Hoʻike i ka mea nui ʻO ka hana ia o Hālala Ka hapapai kīkala Aʻe a ka lawe aʻe oʻe Ka hapapai kikala Aʻe a ka lawe aʻe oʻe A i pono iho o Hālala Aʻe a ka lawe aʻe oʻe A i pono iho o Hālala Haʻina mai ka puana ʻO Hālala i ka nuku manu Haʻina mai ka puana ʻO Hālala i ka nuku manu E ala e ala eā, (Hui) He Maʻi no Hālala Bob Barker: And that’s Pau Hana Years for today.

A visit to Huliheʻe Palace on the shores of the Big Island’s Kailua-Kona.

On our next program we’ll continue our visit here at the palace until then, this is Bob Barker leaving you with this thought: The art galleries and museums of a city are like Windows which look out on the broader richer and deeper things of life.

(Outro) Deep in December it’s nice to remember Although you know the snow will follow Deep in December it’s nice to remember Without a hurt the heart will hollow Deep in December it’s nice to remember The fire of September that made you mellow Deep in December our hearts should remember and follow (follow) Fo-o-o-o-o-llow Try to remember Try to remember.

Pau Hana Years a new day for older Americans; a time for living.

Your host Bob Barker.

Bob Barker: Hi and welcome to the program for and by the senior citizens of Hawaiʻi.

Today Pau Hana Years is again on the Big Island to continue our visit at Huliheʻe palace here on the shores of Kailua-Kona.

(Chanting) (Ae Kalākaua ka pua maeʻole i ka lā) Kalākaua a he inoa Ka pua maeʻole i ka lā Kalākaua a he inoa Ka pua maeʻole i ka lā Ke pua maila i ka mauna Ke kuahiwi ʻo Maunakea Ke pua maila i ka mauna Ke kuahiwi ʻo Maunakea Ke ʻā maila i Kīlauea Mālamalama o wahine kapu Ke ʻā maila i Kīlauea Mālamalama o wahine kapu A luna o Uwē Kahuna Ka pali kapu o Kaʻau A luna o Uwē Kahuna Ka pali kapu o Kaʻau Ea mai ke aliʻi kia manu Ua wehi i ka hulu o ka mamo Ea mai ke aliʻi kia manu Ua wehi i ka hulu o ka mamo Ea ea ea ea....

He Inoa no Kalākaua Bob Barker: This is Helen Weeks, former chairman of Huliheʻe Palace and now involved in restoration of the palace.

Helen, just what is involved in this restoration?

Helen Weeks: Well in the, in 1971 We started the restoration of the Queen Emma Summer Palace and the Huliheʻe Palace.

Bob Barker: That’s in Honolulu.

Helen Weeks: That is in Honolulu.

That is the plans.

And when, we're, Queen Emma Summer Palace is now all finished.

And as we're doing the plans for the Huliheʻe Palace here we had high seas in July, which damaged the seawall here.

And so I brought some pictures of I can show them to you, so you can see.

Bob Barker: Yes.

Helen Weeks: Okay, this is the Bob Barker: Those are the high waves?

Helen Weeks: These are the high waves hitting the seawall.

And with the water, undermining the seawall over these many, many years, it came up under the seawall, the sidewalk rather right there, which caused like a miniature blowhole and did all of this damage.

Bob Barker: Oh, the water, water would actually blow up through there then?

Helen Weeks: Right, and bring all the rocks and debris and so forth.

And then this is what it looked like after the sea subsided.

And the wall we’re now sitting on, the Kīʻope Pond wall was also damaged.

And we also had that fixed as you can see this today.

Bob Barker: Uh huh.

Helen Weeks: And we hired Mr. Stringham of West Hawaiʻi Builders to come and put in the sidewalk for us.

Because, you know, with a hole there and the visitors coming back and forth, we widened the sidewalk, so that it would cover the hole as I showed you here.

Bob Barker: Yes.

Helen Weeks: And when Mr. Strigham was finished, he happened to make a chance remark, “it’s too bad we can’t put some boulders on the other side of the seawall to retard the wave action.” But he said it would take the permission of the Corps of Engineers.

So Bob Barker: That’s the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers?

Helen Weeks: Right, right.

So the high seas came in July of last year, and the Board of Directors of the daughters of Hawaii started the ball rolling in talking and getting letters out to the various governmental agencies.

And it took us a year and two weeks to get our permit.

And we hired Mr. Stringham again, and he put in this revetment here to retard the waves Bob Barker: All these, all these boulders down here that’s the revetment.

Helen Weeks: These boulders go all the way around.

And when Sunn, Low, Tom, and Hara, the engineering firm we hired came to do the preliminary work, he found eight cavities going in, underneath the seawall and under the sidewalk and the largest was about eight and a half feet long, which went into the, you know, the ground area there.

And so the money that we had hoped to use for the restoration of a palace had to go for the emergency.

Cost us about $40,000 to do the, the engineering work, and the construction of the seawall.

And hopefully we're all finished now.

And you can see we have a little trench there, which we're going to plant naupaka, which goes along the corner here.

Bob Barker: Now, have you had any high waves since the revetment went in to test it out?

Helen Weeks: Yes, we have.

Yes, we did.

We had very high seas, as you know, two weekends ago, when we had the tidal wave here.

Bob Barker: Oh, yes, yes.

Helen Weeks: And the water receded but I understand it, we weren’t allowed to come in here.

But the water did recede and recede and we did have high waves but it never touched the palace area at all.

And prior to that, we have had a couple of high seas we've had some real big waves, but they're breaking against the revetment and you know coming over the seawall.

Bob Barker: They lose their force by the time they get to the wall then.

Helen Weeks: Right.

Now these are the pictures that Mr. Thompson of Sunn, Low, Tom, and Hara took.

And you can as you can see here the wall is right down into the water and these are all the cavities that he found.

So when you, wave came it broke right against the seawall and so now with the revetment it’s retarding the waves and we’re not having you know, all the damage up there.

But um because these Bob Barker: Big holes, yes.

Helen Weeks: This this is right along the way, now.

In comparison to what we have now, you know, this is the seawall originally, and so when you waves came it hit directly and they would splash now when we have the high seas in 1974, this whole place was covered with water.

And the water went down to the grass shack and right up the hill on these steps, the water was so bad and it did quite a bit of damage.

And we were so afraid that the seawall that the seawall, you know, would would, you know, fall so.

Bob Barker: And it could ruin all grass and plants too, couldn’t it?

Helen Weeks: Well, the water kept going over anyway, and losing all of our grass and dirt.

So we had to do something.

So that has taken a big chunk of our restoration money.

But we are going into restoration, we've just opened the bids.

And we find it's going to cost us 118,000 to do the restoration.

And that's going to be fixing up the window frames of the corridors and putting back the shutters.

And replastering we're going to remove all the plaster and replaster as it is now.

Now when Governor Kuakini built the palace in 1838; it was built just after the completion of Mokuaikaua Church.

And so the outside of the building was exactly as you see at Mokuaikaua Church, it was like rock finish.

And then Kalākaua, oh around, 18 um, well the 1880s came in and plastered everything.

Bob Barker: Over the rock?

Helen Weeks: Over the rock.

And so in doing a restoration plan, yes we would have liked to go back to the Kuakini era but in doing the preliminary restoration plans for Huliheʻe, the Huliheʻe Palace committee decided that we would stick to the King Kalākaua era because it was, uh, we had all of the furniture in the palace.

If we were to go back to the Kuakini time it meant that we would have to take off the bottom porch.

Cuz there was no lanai there during Kuakini’s time there was only, oh, a lanai about four feet and then there was nothing but dirt.

Bob Barker: You said the bottom porch?

Helen Weeks: The bottom porch.

Bob Barker: You mean there was an upper porch?

Helen Weeks: There was an upper porch, but there was no bottom, just a little bottom part as you came out the door.

Bob Barker: Oh, I see.

Helen Weeks: And then he did plastered all the interior, which was, we had nothing but koa walls, beautiful koa walls.

I would’ve liked to seen it go back to the Kuakini time because I think was a very interesting period.

But as I say the expenses would have been out of the question.

And so right now we’re living in the Kalākaua era.

And we should start the restoration sometime in February, it’ll take about eight months.

And we have planned a Monarchy Ball for July the fourth, that would be our centennial celebration here at Huliheʻe Palace.

So regardless of whether the palace is finished or not, we will go ahead with our plans for a Monarchy Ball on the fourth.

Bob Barker: Well now what are the the various sources of your funds?

that you Helen Weeks: Well we have written to various foundations and trusts.

We’ve written to various individuals and through the membership.

And to date we have collected about $51,000.

So we have a long, long ways to go.

Bob Barker: A long way to go.

In other words words you're interested in more funding.

Helen Weeks: We certainly are.

Bob Barker: Do you have, is your admission charge to the palace a source of income at all?

Helen Weeks: The only income the Daughters have is through the dues paid by members and by the admission here at Huliheʻe Palace and it all goes, you might as well say, into the pot.

And it takes care of both the palaces, both palaces.

Because we, you can’t say we are the Daughters of Kona or the Daughters of Honolulu.

We are one.

All of us in the state of Hawaiʻi are the Daughters of Hawaiʻi.

And we all, you know, work together to run both palaces.

We leased both of the palaces from the state.

Bob Barker: Do you have any imaginary target date to in your minds in regards of when you would expect to see or like to see it all restored?

Helen Weeks: Well, we had a beautiful pavilion that we had, you know, could hold parties that Kalakaua built.

And when they widened Alii Drive, they took a part of that corner of the pavilion off when they went to widen it.

So they took the whole pavilion down.

But hopefully someday we here a Hulihee will have a pavilion.

Then you could have little painas, you could have meetings, and maybe you could have classes.

But it would be a gathering place of the people again.

And so this is what we’re going to push for next.

Bob Barker: Well, good luck, Helen.

Helen Weeks: Thank you very much.

Bob Barker: Sounds like a big job you have here.

Helen Weeks: Well, it certainly is.

It’s gonna be a big undertaking.

And as I, you know, we hope and we pray that everybody will be good to us.

Bob Barker: Well good luck and thank you.

Helen Weeks: Well, thank you very much.

(Singing) Hanohano ʻO Kona kai ʻōpua i ka laʻi ʻO pua hinano i ka mālie Wai na lai Ka maka ʻo ka ʻōpua ʻAʻole no he lua aʻe like aku ia Me Kona kai ʻōpua Ke kai maʻokiʻoki Ke kai malino aʻo Kona Ke kai malino aʻo Kona Haʻaheo i ka mālie No nā kai ʻōpua i ka laʻi Kīlakila ʻoe Ma na laʻi I ke kai malino a ʻo Kona Hanohano ʻO Kona kai ʻōpua i ka laʻi ʻO pua hinano i ka mālie Wai na lai Ka maka ʻo ka ʻōpua ʻAʻole nō he lua aʻe like aku ia Me Kona kai ʻōpua (Me Kona kai opau) Ke kai maʻokiʻoki Ke kai malino aʻo Kona Ke kai malino aʻo Kona (Kāua) Kāua i ka holoholo kaʻa ʻOni ana ka huila lawa lilo Kuʻu aku ʻoe a pau pono Nā huahelu e kau ana Kāua i ka holoholo kaʻa ʻOni ana ka huila lawe a lilo Kuʻu aku ʻoe a pau pono Na huahelu e kau ana ʻAlawa iho ʻoe ma ka ʻaoʻao Hū ana ka makani hele uluulu Mea ʻole ka piʻina me ka ihona Me nā kīkeʻe alanui ʻAlawa iho ʻoe ma ka ʻaoʻao Hū ana ka makani hele uluulu Mea ʻole ka piina me ka ihona Me nā kikeʻe alanui ʻO ka pā kōnane a ka mahina Ahuwale nō i ka pae ʻōpua Eia kāua i ka piʻina pau A huli hoʻi mai kāua ʻO ka pā kōnane a ka mahina Ahuwale nō i ka pae ʻōpua Eia kāua i ka piʻina pau A huli hoʻi mai kāua Haʻina kō wehi e kuʻu lei Ke huli hoʻi nei kāua Step on the gas I will drive away Ke ʻoni nei ka huila Haʻina kō wehi e kuʻu lei Ke huli hoʻi nei kāua Step on the gas I will drive away Ke ʻoni nei ka huila Henehene kou ʻaka Kou leʻaleʻa paha He mea maʻa mau ia For you and I Kaʻa uila mākāneki Hōʻonioni kou kino He mea maʻa mau ia For you and I I Kakaʻako mākou ʻAi ana i ka pipi stew He mea maʻa mau ia For you and I Haʻina mai ka puana Kou leʻaleʻa paha He mea maʻa mau ia For you and I Haʻina mai ka puana Kou leʻaleʻa paha He mea maʻa mau ia For you and I Bob Barker: And here we have two more Daughters of Hawaiʻi, Barbara Fitzgibbons and Coco Hind.

What are you doing here Barbara?

Barbara Fitzgibbons: Arranging flowers for the pass.

We come down once a week.

The Daughters bring flowers down.

Bob Barker: Oh, out of their own gardens?

Barbara Fitzgibbons: Yes.

Bob Barker: And once a week, the year round?

Barbara Fitzgibbons: Right, they take it in turns, doing this.

Bob Barker: How long you've been arranging flowers, Coco?

Coco Hind: About a year, I guess.

Just about a year.

Bob Barker: Well, they’re beautiful, thank you.

(Chanting) (Nani wale kuʻu ʻike ʻana pa) Nani wale kuʻu ʻike ʻana la I ka luna ua ʻo hakala lei e la noho ana aʻo hoa A manu ia lā i ka wai pua hu ʻAʻole la la kau ana i ka pā Hapala lā i ka lae ʻo Makua A ʻike ā ʻo ka lau hau aia lā i welo a i Kou, kou piko lā lā mai ʻō a ʻemi Palani lā lā pua ʻoli wahe he inoa la He inoa no Emalani Bob Barker: ʻIolani Luahine, I understand this is one of your favorite spots here.

Iolani Luahine: Yes, it is, Bob.

We have just come through on my left as the so called was, the so called bath house.

We're now standing here, what was the royal bathing pool for the family and their guests, Kīʻope Pond it is called, Bob Barker: Kīʻope Pond.

Iolani Luahine: Kīʻope Pond.

Because there's a freshwater spring on the other side.

Bob Barker: Oh there is?

Iolani Luahine: So, for that reason, the pond never runs dry.

When it's low tide, it's icy cold.

And when it’s high tide we get the sea water that comes in and seeps through the opening.

It becomes brackish.

Bob Barker: And salty.

Iolani Luahine: And salty.

But this was their bathing pool.

One of my favorite duties is to take care of our pets now that they have been placed in here.

They’re pets from the ocean, the different varieties.

And I usually have little bread crumbs and little goodies left over.

We have to give them a little meat, little lūʻau.

Little vegetables.

Bob Barker: Do they like vegetables?

Iolani Luahine: Oh they love vegetables.

Bob Barker: They do?

Iolani Luahine: Lūʻau especially.

Sweet potato, sweet potato, they do.

A little more crumbs.

Bob Barker: Do you feed them about a certain time every day?

Iolani Luahine: Yes.

Bob Barker: Same time.

Iolani Luahine: Yes, it’s the same time.

Yes.

They’ve become accustomed to that time because prior to my…brought here.

Prior to my coming here it was set by the past curators.

Bob Barker: Oh I see.

Iolani Luahine: A set time.

So they’re accustomed to having their food and it's fed they’re fed once a day, once a day.

(whistles) Bob Barker: They hear your whistle?

They can hear your whistle?

Iolani Luahine: They can hear my whistle.

(whistles) Bob Barker: Oh.

Iolani Luahine: (whistles) Eia ʻanae ē, aia i hea ʻoukou?

Bob Barker: What’s the translation of what you just chanted?

Iolani Luahine: That’s the name of the mullet.

Bob Barker: Oh.

Iolani Liuhine: Mullet, anae.

When it comes this size it’s ʻanae, or mullet.

But we have they seem to be care… seem to be shy.

Normally they just, Bob Barker: Well maybe it’s because there’s a stranger here.

Iolani Luahine: Perhaps, I don’t, Oh you’re not a stranger, Bob.

Bob Barker: Maybe I’m a stranger to these particular fish.

(laughs) Iolani Luahine: Not really.

Hui!

Bob Barker: How many different types of fish do you have in there?

Do you know?

Iolani Luahine: We have about 10 varieties, eight varieties.

Bob Barker: Eight varieties.

Iolani Luahine: Yes, ʻamaʻama.

Bob, I know their Hawaiian names, I’m sorry.

Bob Barker: Uh huh.

Iolani Luahine: The kole, the lāʻipala the kihikihi, and the amaama is is the mullet.

The mānini, the tiger fish, the mānini.

So sorry.

Bob Barker: Very good.

Iolani Luahine: And this is a daily duty of mine that I, they must be fed, at least, they’re fed once a day.

Once a day.

Bob Barker: I see your cat likes the fish food, too.

Iolani Luahine: That comes, naturally.

Bob Barker: Right here (both laugh) Iolani Luahine: That comes, naturally.

Oh my!

Auwē!

Auwē no hoʻi ē. That’s the last.

But they will be, they know there’re strangers around I, that’s the reason.

I usually feed them all, when I’m alone.

No one around.

Bob Barker: Ah, nobody around.

Iolani Luahine: Yes.

Bob Barker: Well thank you very much, ʻIolani.

Thank you.

Iolani Luahine: But I know they appreciate, I know they, their aloha for you, too.

I know they do.

Bob Barker: Thank you.

Iolani Luahine: Thank you for being here.

It’s a pleasure.

(Chanting) (Aia lā o Pele i Hawaiʻi) (Aia) Aia lā ʻo Pele i Hawaiʻi ʻeā Ke haʻa mai lā i Maukele ʻeā (Aia) Aia lā ʻo Pele i Hawaii ʻeā Ke haʻa mai lā i Maukele ʻeā (ʻŪhi) ʻŪhiʻūhā mai ana ʻeā Ke nome aʻe lā iā Puna, ʻeā (ʻŪhi) ʻŪhiʻūhā mai ana ʻeā Ke nome aʻe lā iā Puna, ʻeā (O Ka mea) Ka mea nani ka i Paliuli ʻeā Ke pulelo aʻe lā i nā pali ʻeā (O Ka mea) Ka mea nani ka i Paliuli ʻeā Ke pulelo aʻe lā i nā pali ʻeā (Aia) Aia ka palena i Maui ʻeā ʻĀina o Kaululāʻau ʻeā (Aia) Aia ka palena i Maui ʻeā ʻĀina o Kaululaaʻu ʻeā (I hea) I hea kāua e laʻi ai ʻeā?

I ka ʻale nui aʻe liʻa nei ʻeā (I hea) I hea kāua e laʻi ai ʻeā?

I ka ʻale nui aʻe liʻa nei ʻeā (Haina) Haʻina ʻia mai ka puana ʻeā No Hiʻiaka nō he inoa ʻeā (Haʻina) Haʻina ʻia mai ka puana ʻeā No Hiʻiaka nō he inoa ʻeā E ala ā ʻea.

He inoa no Hiʻiakaikapoliopele Bob Barker: And that’s Pau Hana Years for today, a visit to Huliheʻe Palace maintained by the Daughters of Hawaiʻi on the shores of the Big Island’s Kailua-Kona.

Until our next program this is Bob Barker leaving you with this thought: Huliheʻe Palace is another of Hawaiʻi’s milestones on the road of time.

(Outro) Deep in December it’s nice to remember The fire of September that made us mellow Deep in December our hearts should remember and follow (follow) follow (follow).