SCROLLING POSTING SHARING, MANY PEOPLE# CAN'T GO A DAY WITHOUT SOCIAL IT HELPS TO KEEP US INFORMED, KEEP US CONNECTED## AND CAN BRING US JOY.

>> ALSO A DARK SIDE TO IT.# HATE SPEECH DECEPTION AND MISINFORMATION CAN RUN# UNCHECKED AND NEGATIVE INFLUENCES CAN TAK HOW CAN WE SEPARATE THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE# UGLY OF SOCIAL MEDIA?

TONIGHT'S LIVE BROADCAST AN## LIVESTREAM OF KAKOU HAWAII'S TOWN HALL START NOW.

>>YUNJI: ALOHA AND WELCOME TO# KAKOU: HAWAII#S TOWN HALL, LIVE FROM THE HARRY AND# JEANETTE WEINBERG MULTI#MEDIA STUDIO.# I#M YUNJI DE NIES.

THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE AROUND# THE WORLD # MORE THAN 5 BILLION OF US # ENGAGE# ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

THOSE ONLINE CONNECTIONS CAN# HELP US FIND COMMUNITY, SHARE LIFE#SAVING INFORMATION# IN RECORD TIME, AND BUILD MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS.# FACEBOOK IS THE MOST POPULAR PLATFORM IN THE U.S. WITH 74%# OF ADULTS USING IT, FOLLOWED BY INSTAGRAM AND TIKTOK.# MOST OF US DON#T JUST HAVE ONE ACCOUNT.# AMERICANS ON AVERAGE ARE ON SEVEN DIFFERENT SOCI PLATFORMS AND CHECK THEM FOR AN AVERAGE OF 2 HOURS AND 14# MINUTES PER DAY.

WHEN IT COMES TO TEENAGERS,# THE PLATFORMS MAY DIFFER, BUT THE ENGAGEMENT DOES THE PEW RESEARCH CENTER FOUND THAT THE MAJORITY OF TEENS USE# YOUTUBE AND TIKTOK EVERY DAY WITH ABOUT A THIRD SAYING THEY# USE SOCIAL MEDIA #ALMOST CONSTANTLY,# BUT NOT ALL OF# THAT USAGE IS USEFUL.

MORE THAN 40 STATES, INCLUDING# HAWAII ARE, NOW SUING META, THE PARENT COMPANY OF FACEBOOK# AND INSTAGRAM CLAIMING THE COMPANY DELIBERATELY# CREATES SOFTWARE THAT ADDICTS KIDS TO ITS PLATFORMS AND# CAUSES MENTAL HARM.

IN 2021, THE COMPANY#S OWN# RESEARCH REVEALED THAT 17% OF TEEN GIRLS SAID INSTAGRAM# MAKES EATING DISORDERS WORSE, AND 13.5% SAID IT MADE# THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE WORSE.

MISINFORMATION CAN SPREAD# RAPIDLY ONLINE AND SCHEMES TO DEFRAUD PEOPLE ARE RAMPANT.# KAKOU MEANS ALL OF US, AS IN WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.# FOR THOSE OF US ONLINE, AND FOR EVEN FOR THE MINORITY THAT# DON#T PARTICIPATE IN SOCIAL MEDIA, WHAT HAPPENS THERE# IMPACTS HOW WE ALL ENGAGE ON AND OFF LINE.# WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU IN OUR DISCUSSION.# YOU CAN EMAIL OR CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS.

WE#RE ALSO STREAMING LIVE AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND HAWAII FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBE PAGES.# >>YUNJI: IN OUR TOWN HALL, WE HAVE SOCIA AND EXPERTS, EDUCATORS AND ACADEMICS, STUDENTS,# FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND A THERAPIST TO HELP# US NAVIGATE THIS DIGITAL WORLD SAFELY TOGETHER.# SO LET#S BEGIN.

PREMISE OF OUR PROGRAM## TONIGHT IS THE GOOD, BAD AND UGLY.

START WITH SOME OF THE MALIKA DUDLEY INFLUENCER AND METEOROLOGISTS.

BROADCAST JOURNALIST ON MAUI.# OTHER PLATFORMS.

WHAT DID YOU SEE## IS GOOD OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND HOW DO YOU TUESD ALSO ANOTHER SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCER IN HAWAII.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO## DO OUR JOBS FROM HAWAII, THAT IT KEPT US HOME.

THAT THE ADVENT OF SOCIAL## MEDIA GAVE US THAT ABILITY.

AND AS A MOTHER AS WELL, I CAN STAY HOME## WITH MY CHILDREN AND I CAN STILL DO MY JOB.

AND SO I THINK THAT WAS ONE## OF THINGS THAT POPPED UP.

>>Yunji: THAT'S A GOOD ONE.# TURN NOW KMAKA DIAS, SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCER OF# HOPE OF KEEP IT ALOHA PO YOU USE SOCIAL MEDIA IN A POSITIVE WAY.

>> I THINK IF YOU LEVERAGE IT IN## THE RIGHT WAY, GREAT FOR BUSINESS.

I MEAN, EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE TODAY,## ALL OPPORTUNITIES HAVE COME FROM SOCIAL MEDIA.

AND FOR ME, I SEE IT MORE AS BUSINESS THAN SOCIAL.# IT'S GREAT TO CONNECT WITH# PEOPLE AN STAY IN TOUCH.# ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GO ABROAD AND LIVE EVERYWHERE.

BUT FO >>Yunji: DO YOU AGREE WITH MALIKA THAT YOU# MIGHT NOT BE ABLE DO BUSINESS IN HAWAII## WITHOUT THAT PLATFORM?

>> YOU COULD.# I DON'T SEE WHY YOU WOULDN'T THOUGH.

BECAUSE IT REACH PEOPLE THAN YOU COULD IN PERSON.

AND CAN YOU JUST DO IT FROM YOUR BED LYING DOWN.# >>Yunji: WE HAVE THREE STUDENTS WITH US HERE# TONIGHT TWO IN HIGH SCHOOL ONE IN GRADUATE SCHOOL.# HEAR FROM THEM ON THE GOOD AND BAD.

I WANT TO BEGIN WITH DENISE CABRERA SENIOR## AT WAIANAE HIGH SCHOOL IN WEST OAHU.

START WITH YOU.# THE GOOD AND THE BAD.

>> FOR ME, GOOD,## I CAME FROM THE PHILIPPINES AND I THINK IT'S THE# BIGGEST WAY THAT I S FAMILY THERE.

ESPECIALLY MY GRANDPARENTS.

BUT THE BAD, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS## LIKE FEW FRIENDS WHO HAVE PUBLIC ACCOUNTS BEEN# GETTING IMPERSONATED AND A LOT OF HATE COMMENTS.# IT'S LIKE DEFINITELY A MIX.

>>Yunji: TURN NOW TO NATASHA## STRONGOSKY JUNIOR AT MID PACIFIC.

TELL US YOUR THOUGHTS,## GOOD AND BAD OF SOCIAL MEDIA.

>> I FEEL LIKE THE GOOD OF BE ING ABLE TO CONNECT WITH MY FRIENDS ONLINE.

SO IF I WANT TO MAKE PLANS WITH THEM,## IT'S SUPEREASY TO CONTACT THEM THROUGH# SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLAN LIKE FUN ACTIVITIES.# BAD, SOCIAL MEDIA CAN PROVIDE# IS BEING VERY DISTRACTIVE.# AS A STUDENT, STUDYING COMES FIRST AND I DO# OFTEN FIND MYSELF ON INSTAGRAM WAY TOO MUCH.# SO I WOULD HAVE TO SET TIMERS FOR# MYSELF, OKAY, NOW I GOT STARTED## WORK ON HOMEWORK AND GET OFF INSTAGRAM.

>>Yunji: I THINK WE'RE ALL IN THAT BOAT.# HARD TO READ, MAYBE I SHOULD LOOK# AT THAT UP, GO DOWN A RABBIT HOLE.# KAYLEEN FUKUSHIMA PURSUING GRADUATE DEGREE.

HOW DO YOU THINK IT CHANGES AS YOU BECOME## COLLEGE STUDENT AND GRADUATE STUDENT?

>> BEING OLDER I THINK IT'S STILL CONNECTS US## AS MUCH AS IF WE'RE IN HIGH SCHOOL OR FAMILY.

IN COLLEGE, IT DOES THE SAME EXACT THING.## PEOPLE LEAVE THE ISLAND, EVEN OTHER FAMILY# WHATEVER, REALLY IS A GOOD WAY TO CONNECT.# SHARE YOUR LIFE.

WHAT YOU'RE UP TO.# AS WE GROW UP SO MANY THINGS# HAVE ALL BEEN CHANGED.

I WORK WITH HAWAII ATHLETICS AND SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO EVEN THAT ASPECT IS JUST UPDATING OUR PEERS AN FRIENDS AND FAMILY.

ON THE BAD SIDE, I THINK WORKING IN IT, KIND## OF LIKE YOU GUYS SAID, MAKES THERE IS A LOT OF# NEGATIVITY, NEGATIVE OPINIONS SAY WHAT THEY THINK.# BUT ALSO, THAT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY I# THINK JUST KNOWING YOUR SPACE AND WHO YOU## WANT TO SHARE WITH IS SO IMPORTANT TOO.

>>Yunji: I WANT TO TURN TO ANOTHER VOICE## FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII.

THAT'S WAYNE BUENTE PROFESSOR## SCHOOL OF COMMUNICATION AND INFORMATION.

LOOK AT HOW EACH OF US INFLUENCED BY HOWTHAT DIFFER?

DO YOU FIND IT DIFFERS AMONG# AGE AN GENDER OR WOMEN OF A CERTAIN AGE THAN## MEN A CERTAIN AGE.

>> FOR SURE.# I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK, TALK ABOUT SOCIAL# INFLUENCE, GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN## YOUR SOCIAL NETWORK.

PEOPLE THAT MAY BE## SIMILAR FOR YOU OR MORE INFLUENTIAL.

I THINK INCREASING NOW, WITH PLATFO MOVING TOWARDS MORE CONTENT, UNDERSTANDING,# AND TRYING TO BUILD RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU,## BASED ON THE CONTENT THAT YOU CONSUME,# MOVING AWAY FROM YOUR NETWORK, SO IN## THAT SENSES I FEEL LIKE ALGORITHMS AND THESE# PROCESSES ARE STARTING SHOW SOME INFLUENCE.# >>Yunji: INTERESTING.

GIVEN WHAT WAYNE JUST LAID OUT,## LET'S GO TO BRIAN GRANTHAM DIRECTOR# EDUCATION TECHNOLO I KNOW SOME DISTRICTS IN FLORIDA SOME SCHOOL# DISTRICT IT'S BANNED ELECTRONIC DEVICE ON## CAMPUS TO GET SOCIAL MEDIA OUT OF SCHOOL.

TELL US ABOUT WHAT THE SCHOOLS HERE IN## HAWAII SPECIFICALLY MID#PACIFIC, I'M SURE# YOU TALK TO COLLEGE ACROSS THE BOARD,## WHAT IS THE SORT OF APPROACH HERE AT HOME?

>> DIGITAL TOOL, WE USE I#PAD AT MID PACIFIC.# IS IMPORTANT LEARNING AND# EDUCATIONAL TOOL FOR STUDENTS.# SO WE VALUE THAT.

IT'S MORE ABOUT HOW TO MANAGE THAT TOOL.# SO WE FIRST STARTED OUT 13 YEARS# AGO, I#PAD WAS LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN.# ALLOWED KIDS TO HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA.

AS THAT TECHNOLOGY PROGRESSED AND WE## WORKED ON OUR MANAGEMENT, THINGS THAT WE CAN# NOW DO TO KEEP THAT OFF EDUCATIONAL DEVICE.# BUT STILL HAVE IT ON THEIR PERSONAL DEVICE.

ALMOST EVERY KID HAS A PERSONAL DEVICE.# FOCUS REALLY IS ETHICS AND# HOW TO USE IT AND MANAGE IT.# LIKE NATASHA WAS SAYING.

ABILITY TO STOP YOURSELF FROM IT AND REDIRECT.# >>Yunji: ARE STUDENTS ALLOWED# TO ENGAGE?

NOT MANY ON FACEBOOK.# ALLOWED TO ENGAGE ON PLATFORMS# CREATE CONTENT ON CAMPUS?# >> YES AND NO IN THE SENSE# WE SCHOOL HAS SOCIAL MEDIA.# AND WE HAVE CLASSES THAT ACTUALLY GENERATE# CONTENT FOR OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS.# SO THERE IS THAT GOING ON WHICH IS MUCH# MORE FACILITATED AND CONTROLLED PROCESS.# WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL# ACCOUNTS, THEN THEORETICALLY, NO.# BUT THAT'S ALL WHERE THE CHALLENGE# IS, HOW TO LIMIT ACCESS IS.# WHERE THAT CHALLENGE, LIMIT DEVICES AND FILTER,# VERY LITTLE CONTROL OVER PERSONAL DEVICE.# PUT RULES IN PLACE LIKE NO CELLPHONES IN# CLASS, DIFFICULT TO POLICE IN BETWEEN CLASS,## FREE TIMES THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN## SAY YOU CANNOT DO IT.

OR KEEP THEM FROM DOING IT.# WHICH IS WHY WE STRESS EDUCATION SO MUCH.

>>Yunji: WANT TO MOVE TO BRITT YOUNG.# FAMILY THERAPIST.

WE TALK ABOUT TOP OF## THE SHOW NEGATIVE INFLUENCES, IMPACT YOUNG# GIRLS SPECIFICALLY WE KNOW SO MANY OF US ARE USING THESE PLATFORMS.

IT'S NOT JUST KIDS.# FOLKS ON THE KIDS BEING# INFLUENCED WE'RE ALL INFLUENCE.# WHAT IS THE IMPACT PEOPLE'S MENTAL HEALTH?

>> NOT AGE DEPENDENT, SEEN IN THE THERAPY## OFFICE IS DAY WHEN A TEEN WILL COME# IN AND THE BEST DAY OF HER LIFE IS## WHEN SOMETHING COOL HAS HAPPENED ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

THE BOY SHE HAS A CRUSH ON LIKE A COUPLE PICTURES.# THE NEXT WEEK, IT'S WORST DAY OF HER LIFE BECAUSE# OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED ON SOCIAL MEDIA.# SO THERE ARE EXTREME MOMENTS WITH SOCIAL# MEDIA AND HARD TO GET A HANDLE IN THE## PSYCHOLOGY WORLD ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON.

IS IT CORRELATIONAL?

THAT MAYBE TEENS## WHO ARE ALREADY ISOLATED HAPPEN TO GO ON SOCIAL# MEDIA MORE?

OR IS IT CAUSAL?

IS THE SOCIAL MEDIA## ACTUALLY CAUSING DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET.# WHAT DO KNOW PEOPLE TAKE A BREAK, THAT GOES# FOR ADULTS TOO, THEY REPORT AN ELEVATED MOOD.# REPORT THEY FEEL BETTER.

LEAD US TO BELIEVE THAT## MIGHT BE SOME CAUSALITY HERE.

MY ADULT CLIENTS, MY OLDER GERIATRIC## CLIENTS TEEN CLIENT MOOD SWINGS OVER THE# SOCIAL MEDIA AND RESPONSE SUPERVISOR AND DOWN.# EVEN 35#YEAR#OLDS ARE SO EXCITED# WHEN SOMEBODY LIKES THEIR PICTURE.# AND DEVASTATED WHEN THEY DON'T.

>>Yunji: AND HOW LONG DOES THAT## BREAK NEED TO BE TO HAVE THAT KIND# OF EFFECT THAT YOU'RE TALKING AB >> WELL, IN ORDER TO BUILD HABIT# OR DROP A HABIT WE SAY 28 WH EN YOUR BODY STARTS TO GO AND BRAIN STARTS# TO FEEL LIKE OKAY THIS IS THE NEW NORMAL.# >> WOULD SAY 28 DAYS.

I'M SURE IT COULD BE ANY TIME.# EVEN A FIVE DAY, TEN DAY, 20 DAYBREAK GIVES# YOUR BRAIN ANOTHER LENS TO SEE ONE THING THAT YOU SORT OF ALLUDED TO PRIMING.

>> ALL OF THESE ADS EVEN JUST SHOW YOU COLOR## ORANGE, ENOUGH TIMES AND MORE LUCKY TO# LOOK AT FRUIT BOWL AND PICK AN ORANGE.# WE ARE JUST SO INFLUENCED BY THESE SUBTLE# THINGS, SUPPLEMENTAL THINGS, MORE ADS, SEE,## INFLUENCED BEHAVIOR A CERTAIN WAY.

>>Yunji: A LOT OF MONEY AT STAKE.# TURN TO EMI HART SORENSON FIRST# COMMUNITY MANAGE YELP IN HAWAII.# NOT JUST COMPANY THAT IS ARE ACQUIRING# OUR DATA AND WATCHING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA## HABITS THEN SELLING THAT TO ANOTHER PARTY.

ALSO BUSINESS THAT REALLY ENGAGE ONLINE AND## SELL A LOT OF THINGS, SO MUCH E#COMMERCE.

DO YOU THINK A BUSINESS CAN SURVIVE TODAY## WITHOUT SOCIAL MEDIA?

>> YEAH.# I THINK BUSINESS CAN ABSOLUTELY# SURVIVE WITHOU BUT WHAT I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA DOES# IS I THINK IT AMPLIFY THAT IS WORD## OF MOUTH THAT IS ALREADY THERE.

IT'S I USED TO HAVE A LOT OF## BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WOULD COME BACK TO ME# WITH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT## THINGS THAT ARE WRITTEN ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS.

LOOKED AT IT FROM THE LENS OF DON'T YOU WANT## KNOW WHAT YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE SAYING BUT THAT YOU# MIGHT KNOW, BUT YOU ALSO MIGHT NOT KNOW SO THAT## YOU CAN IMPROVE YOUR BUSINESS?

>>Yunji: INTERESTING.# CHRIS DUQUE RETIRED HPD DETECTIVE.

CYBERCRIME EXPERT.# TELL US ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE# ABOUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT QUOTE,## UNQUOTE UGLY?

WHAT IS THE MOST PERVASIVE# DANGER WHEN >> LEAD OFF WHAT EMI IS TALKING ABOUT.

NOT TO DOWN YELP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT I USE YELP.# >> IT'S OKAY.

>> WHEN THIS GOOD AND BAD.# I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BAD.

MORE GOOD THAN BAD.# GOOD PART IS THAT BRING BUSINESS TO THE COMPANY.

BAD PART IS COMPETITOR, EMPLOYEE, MY COME ON YELP# AND POST NEGATIVE REMARKS.# SOMETIMES IT'S OFTENTIMES SLANDER AND LIBEL.

AND THAT IS BEYOND THE PURVEY OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.# CIVIL.

JUST SAYING THAT WENT TO## THIS RESTAURANT, SERVICE WAS LOUSY.

WHICH MIGHT BE TRUE.# MIGHT BE FALSE.

PLACES NEGATIVE REACTION TO THE COMPANY.# TO THE RESTAURANT.

OR SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY,## GOT FOOD POISONING AT THIS PARTICULAR RESTAURANT.

>> COMPL IMAGINE LOSS OF REVENUE AT THAT RESTAURANT# ESPECIALLY IF IT'S FIVE STAR RESTAURANT.# IT HAPPENS.

ANOTHER THING THAT I'VE## HEARD AND SEEN IS AI HOW USE IT.

IS THEY'RE USING AI TO GENERATE## THESE NEGATIVE REVIEWS.

THEY CAN TARGET AN INDIVIDUAL## OR COMPANY AND ENTITY, CREATE THESE REVIEWS AND# IT'S ALL LIKE COMING FROM DIFFERENT LOCATIONS,## DIFFERENT USERS ON THE INTERNET.

THERE'S NO CONTROL THEN.# >> NO CONTROL.

>> I WOULD LIKE## TO SAY CONSUMERS ARE EXTREMELY SAVVY NO CONSUMING ON A REGULAR BASIS, AN SO I THINK# WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT REVIEWS OF A BUSINESS OR## WHATEVER THAT IS ONLINE, THEY'RE NOT JUST# LOOKING AT THAT ONE THING SOMEONE SAYING.# THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS REPEATEDLY# OVER AND OVER AND OVER BEING SAID.# SO THAT THEY CAN SIPHON OUT WHAT THE TRUTH IS# I WANT TO GET TO THIS WHOLE ALGORITHM IDEA AND## TURN TO BURT LUM STATE DIGITAL EQUITY COORDINATE# HOST OF BYTE MARKS CAFE ON HAWAII PUBLIC RADIO.# NOT ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA FEEDS ARE THE SAME.

TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.# >> WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START WHATEVER# YOUR ACCOUNT, LET'S SAY ON INSTAGRAM,## OR TIKTOK, AND ALL SPEAK ABOUT TIKTOK FOR A# LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I MENTIONED## ONE OF MY GUILTY PLEASURES.

I PARTICULARLY DON'T FOLLOW## A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW ON TIKTOK.

I USE TIKTOK MORE AS A LET'S SAY SOURCE FOR## INTERESTING STORIES, INTERESTING INFORMATION.

SO YOU HAVE TO TRAIN THE ALGORITHM TO LET IT## KNOW THAT THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.

AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN CAMPING,## YOU'LL GET SOME, IF YOU GET SOME CAMPING# VIDEOS ON THE FEED, IF YOU WATCH IT,## THAT IS A METRIC THAT TIKTOK WILL RECORD AND THEN# YOU WILL MORE THAN LIKELY GET MORE CAMPING VIDEOS.# AND THEN IF YOU FOLLOW THAT PARTICULAR ACCOUNT,# YOU WILL PROBABLY GET PRESENTED MORE ACCOUNTS## IN THAT PARTICULAR VEIN OF CONTENT.

AND SO I LIKE TO SORT OF TRAIN OR## SEE IF I CAN TRAIN THE ALGORITHM TO# FEED ME STUFF THAT I LIKE TO WATCH.# SO TYPICALLY, MY TIKTOK WILL HAVE PUPPY# VIDEOS, IT WILL HAVE CAMPING VIDEOS.# IT WILL HAVE PLANT, PLANT VIDEOS.

>> SOMETIMES IT WILL SORT OF FEED YOU THIS SORT## OF CHINA, TRADITIONAL ARTS KIND OF FEED, AND I WAS# TELLING EMI, SHE WAS ASKING ME IF I DO ANY ART,## I DO A SORT OF FLOWER PRACTICE.

WHERE THE LIKE IKIBANA PRACTICE.# I HAPPEN TO SEE A FEED OR A VIDEO OF A# PERSON, I THINK IT'S SORT OF CHINESE,## AND THEY ACTUALLY DO AN INTERESTING WAY OF# ARRANGING THEIR FLOWERS.

WATCHED WHOLE THING.# SURE ENOUGH GET THE FEED.

THING I LIKE# ABOUT TIKTOK, SWIPE, SWIPE, SWIPE UNTIL## YOU GET TO THE ONE WANT TO WATCH.

>>Yunji: YOUR FEED LOOKS A LITTLE## DIFFERENT THAN MINE.

>> WATCH PUPPY VIDEOS.# >>Yunji: BACK TO SOMETHING YOU HAD SAID.

JUST ABOUT THE INFLUENCE ON ALL AF TER I HAD MY KIDS, I HAD A LOT OF MOMMY CONTENT.

MALIKA I WANT TO GO TO YOU AFTER WE TALK TO BRITT.# I FELT LIKE A LOT OF THAT POSITIVE.

HAVING A NEW BABY.

A LOT OF IT MADE ME## FEEL LIKE I WASN'T VERY GOOD MOM.

TELL US ABOUT THE IMPACT HAVING## ON PARENTS.

>> FOR SURE.# SOCIAL COMPARISON THAN JUST NATURALLY.

I LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I'M GOING TO IT TOO.# SOCIAL COMPARISON PART OF HUMAN CONDITION.

WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW THOUGH## IS ON STEROIDS MOMMY BLOGS.

YOU ARE CONFRONTED ALL THE TIME WITH WHAT## APPEAR TO BE PERFECT OR REALLY GREAT MOMS.

GIVING ALL OF THIS IS ADVICE.# SOCIAL COMPARISON CAN BE POSITIVE IN EFFECT.

ABOUT YOU LOOK AT IT AND GO, THIS IS A## GREAT IDEA, NOT SO GREAT WHEN YOU FEEL# DIMINISHED, FEELS INVISIBLE LESS THAN.# VULNERABLE NEW HOME, HORMONES GOING CRAZY.

LOTS OF PRESSURE AND RESPONSIBILITIES## YOU'RE JUST VERY VERY VULNERABLE# TO COMPARE YOURSELF TO THESE MOMS.# WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS WE ALL KNOW,# IS HIGHLIGHT REEL OF THEIR DAY.# NOT SEEING SCREAMING CHILD PERHAPS IN THE CRIB.

SEEING THIS BEAUTIFUL BREAST FEEDING MOMENT.# THAT IS THE EXTREME MOOD SWING OF THE# SOCIAL MEDIA THAT I SEE IN MY OFFICE.# IS I FEEL GREAT TODAY BECAUSE I'M# DOING JUST AS GOOD AS THE MOMMY BLOG.# I'M FEELING AWFUL NEXT DAY BECAUSE I'M FALLING# SHORT FROM THE WOMAN IN THE MOMMY BLOG.# THAT IS THE CONCERNS ME.

BACK AND FORTH CONSTANTLY.# RARELY DO I HAVE A MOM COMING# IN FELT SUPERNEUTRAL TODAY.# MOMMY BLOG TOLD ME SOMETHING, I'M# DOING A GOOD JOB.

GOT THAT GREAT.# VERY NONNEUTRAL SPACE.

IN THE BEST OF TIMES,## YOU'RE GETTING SUPPORT AND LOVE FROM THESE MOMS# AND WORST OF TIMES YOU'RE FEELING LIKE A BAD MOM.# YOU'RE FEELING DEPRESSED, ANXIOUS ALONE.

SO HARD TO MAKE SENSE OF THIS PSYCHIC CONFLICT.# WHEN YOU'RE PULLED IN TWO DIFFERENT# DIRECTIONS LIKE THAT ALL THE TIME,## I'M GREAT, NO, I'M NO.#GREAT, NO, I'M NOT.# A LOT ON YOUR BRAIN A LOT OF ENERGY.

>> T YOU COME AT THIS AS AN# INFLUENCER, CONTENT CREATOR.# ALSO YOU HAVE THREE KIDS.

SO YOU KNOW THOSE MOMMY## BLOGS JUST AS WELL AS I DO.

>> WHEN I FIRST STARTED ON AND FACEBOOK, KIND OF LIKE ONE OF THE# ORIGINAL OG'S, WE DIDN'T REALLY WEREN'T## SOCIALIZED INTO HOW TO USE THIS PLATFORM.

SO INITIALLY, JUST YOU'RE JUST SHARED YOUR DAY.# MADE YOUR ALBUMS, ON FACEBOOK.

WHEN INSTAGRAM CAME OUT, MY HUSBAND## TOLD ME, MALIKA, I HAD JUST LEFT NEWS AND HE'S# LIKE, YOU NEED TO USE THIS TO BRAND I HAD NEVER, IT WASN'T EVEN A CONCEPT# OF MINE TO BRAND MYSELF?

AND SO I## STARTED USING IT VERY DIFFERENTLY.

AND I DIDN'T REALLY LIKE HOW THAT## FELT BECAUSE I STARTED TO SEE THE MOMS# WITH THE PERFECT THINGS AND WHATEVER.# I FELT LIKE, THAT'S WHAT I SHOULD BE DOING.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT GETS MORE PEOPLE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING# TO DO WHEN YOU'RE BRANDING.# TRYING TO BUILD BUSINESS.

AN D THEN I REALIZE, I WAS ON AUTO PILOT.

WHEN I REALIZED WHAT I WAS DOING## SUBSTANTIALLY TRIED TO TO DO OPPOSITE.

SUCH AN IMPACT ON OTHER PEOPLE.# GIRLFRIEND, WHY AREN'T YOU# USING PLATFORM?

YEAH, PLEASE.# THEN ONCE I FOUND OUT, WHAT THAT DOES, TO OTHER# PEOPLE, THAT IS WHEN I STARTED TO LOOK AT MYSELF.# AND IT STILL DIFFICULT SOMETIMES.

I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THAT ONE I WANT TO.# I REALLY TRY HARD NOT TO BASS I DON'T WANT# TO BE A PART OF THE PROBLEM.

I WANT TO BE## A PART OF SOLUTION.

SO I TRY TO SHOW THE## DIFFICULT MOMENTS.

THAT'S WHAT I TRY TO DO.

>>Yunji: WHEN ARE YOUR THOUGHT WH AT SHE CALLED THESE CURATED HIGHLIGHT REEL.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IMAGINE, FILTERED EDITS## DO YOU TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

>> MY FRIENDS TO.# IF YOU'RE USING FILTERS OR DON'T# LOOK AT PHOTOS THAT CLOSELY OR NOT.# IF IT'S OBVIOUS PHOTO, SNAPSHOT FILTER I CAN TELL.

USING FILTER.# YEAH.

SOMETIMES IT IS REALLY OBVIOUS.# BUT OTHER CASES, IT'S LIKE SUPERNOT OBVIOUS.

>> FOR TIKTOK, I THINK CAN YOU SEE THE BOTTOM LEFT RIGHT ABOVE THE USER NAME I.

>> I WOULDN'T GUESS THEY HAVE A## FILTER ON WITHOUT CHECK.

GOOD HOW FILTERS ARE GETTING.# >>Yunji: DOES THAT AFFECT WHAT YOU'RE POSTING# A PICK STUFF MAYBE I SHOULD FILTER?

HOW DO## YOU FEEL ABOUT ADDING ENHANCEMENTS.

>> I KIND OF TRY NOT TO PUT FILTERS.# >> WANT TO SHOW THE REALITY.

AND I THINK THAT IS THE ONE## THING ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S AT THAT# COMMON TREND IS ONLY SHOW THE GOOD.# NOT OFTEN SHOWING THE BAD OR# THE STRUGGLES OR THE UGLY.# AND IT'S REALLY SCARY SOMETIMES.

NATASHA SAYING SOME FILTERS SEE THEM ON TIKTOK.# >> GOING TO TRY TO.

CHANGE MY NOSE.# CHANGING FACE SHAPE.

EYES LOOK SO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I REALLY DO.# I TRY NOT TO.

REALLY DOES CHANGE YOU AND THAT'S NOT ME.# I WANT TO SHOW THEM WHO I AM,# NOT THIS PERSON WITH A FILTER ON.# >>Yunji: YOU CAN HEAR STRUGGLE.

BACK AND FORTH.# SHOULD I, SHOULD I NOT.

SHOULD I, SHOULD I NO.#ALL## THAT HAVE IS JUST SO DEFLATING.

AND ANOTHER THING THAT IN MY OFFICE, WE DO A LOT OF,# HAVE TO DO A LOT OF AUTHENTICITY WORK.# WHO ARE YOU?

BECAUSE ONE PART OF MY# CLIENT WILL BE STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY.# OR OTHERWISE.

OTHER PART IS SHOWING THIS## PERFECT THING ON FACEBOOK.

OR INSTAGRAM.# AND SO AFTER A WHILE, YOU START TO WONDER# AM I BEING AM I HIDING?

BUT YOU CAN IMAGINE,# NOT GOING ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM.# GOING WELL.

I HAD TO BUY LESS GROCERIES THIS WEEK## THAN I WANTED TO BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING.

WE'RE GOING EUROPE.# A LOT OF FEELING INAUTHENTIC.

>> THAT'S A NEW DYNAMIC THAT IS## COMING IN TO THE THERAPY ROOM.

>>Yunji: INTERESTING.# I WANT TO BRING IN OUR AUDIENCE AND THANK# YOU FOR THOSE ENGAGING WITH US TONIGH ON SOCIAL MEDIA WE POST THIS# QUESTION ON PBS FACEBOOK PAGE.# ASKED OUR VIEWERS WHAT ARE YOUR OWN MAIN# ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO SOCIAL MEDIA.# MOST ANSWERS ABOUT LIES AND INFORMATION ONLINE.

>> WORRIED ABOUT LOOK OF ALOHA.# YOU WEIGHED IN.

MOST ARE NOT READY FOR SOCIAL MEDIA.# WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?

>> BASICALLY, PEOPLE IMMATURE.# BELIEVE WHAT THEY SEE.

AND THEY LOOK AT POST AND DON'T## LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN.

WHO IS POSTING IT.# THEY'RE UNAWARE WHAT THE TRUTH# IS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY WANT TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY SEE IS TRUE WHICH IS NOT.

YOU CANNOT TAKE THINGS FOR GRANTED WHEN YOU GO.# IT'S LIKE GRANDMA TOLD ME WHEN I WAS# GROWING UP, I SAW SUPERMAN ON TV.# BLACK AND WHITE WITH GEORGE REEVES.

SURE ENOUGH, BED SHEET, JUMP OFF THE BALCONY.# BROKE MY KNEE.

GRANDMA TELL ME, BELIEVE EVERYTHING## YOU SEE ON TV?

SAME THING I TELL PEOPLE.

YOU BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU SEE YO U HAVE TO BEFORE YOU BELIEVE THING YOU# HAVE TO SEE, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE, POSTER?## I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC IS READY FOR THAT.

AND EVEN THE NEGATIVITY WE HEAR ABOUT THE ONLINE.# PEOPLE ARE, SOME PEOPLE ARE# TOO FRAGILE FOR INTERNET.# ONE INSULT AND THEY BREAK LIKE GLASS.

>> DON'T BELONG ON INTERNET.# BAD PERSON SAY A BAD THING# ABOUT THEM, ON SUICIDE WATCH.# I'VE SEEN THAT.

>> MOST THE PEOPLE THEY'RE OKAY.# MOST PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT.

NOT READY FOR IT.# NOT SO MUCH TECHNOLOGY.

DON'T UNDERSTAND THE AUDIENCE.# BECAUSE I USED TO TALK THE STUDENTS, WHEN# YOU GO ON THE INTERNET, POST ON INTERNET,## BASICALLY HAVE A GLOBAL AUDIENCE.

YOU'RE STANDING ON A GLOBAL STAGE.# NAKED TO THE WORLD.

THEY CAN SEE YOU BUT YOU CAN'T SEE THEM.# YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE, WHERE# THEY ARE, WHAT THEY ARE RECORDING.# >> WHAT ARE THEY SAYING, AND WHAT# ARE THEY GOING TO REPEAT?

EDITED.# TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.

>>Yunji: GO TO YOU ON THAT.# YOU TRY TO KEEP IT POSITIVE ON YOUR PAGE.

I'M SURE THAT NOT ALL THE COMM HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH WHAT HE'S TALKING# ABOUT?

YOU'RE NOT BREAKING GLASS.# YOU HAVE SOME EFFECT.

>> I'M OLD SCHOOL.# PEOPLE AREN'T READY.

OUR GENERATION HAS BECOME SOFT.# >> FRAGILE.

PROBABLY BETTER WORD TO USE.# FOR ME, I DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY.

I THINK A LOT OF TIMES.# >> IT'S JUST PROJECTION WHAT'S# GOING ON IN THEIR LIVES.# AND I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM BECAUSE# THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT BRINGS I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DO CERTAIN THINGS, FOR# ME, I PUT ON ALOHA ARMOR AND LET EVERYTHING## FIRE OFF BECAUSE I MEAN, TO ME, I# DON'T WANT TO PUT ENERGY INTO THAT.# MAJORITY OF THE TIME, IF WE# REALLY LOOK AT IT, 90% POSITIVE.# 10% NEGATIVE.

NEGATIVITY SCREAMS LOUDER.# PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE.

10,000 LIKES AND PEOPLE SAY,## THEY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THEN GOT# LIKE FIVE NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND THEN, OH!# TALKING INFLUENCER PERSPECTIVE.

NOT JUST THAT'S NOT MOST PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE.# >> YEAH.

>> COMMUNICATION WE## CALL THIS MASS PERSONAL PLATFORM.

GOT INTERP MASS MEDIA.

SOCIAL MEDIA MASS PERSONAL.# IT'S PERSONAL.

>> IT'S YOU.# YOU'RE REPRESENTING YOURSELF# WH EN HATERS WHO YOU DON'T KNOW# SAYS SOMETHING CRAPPY ABOUT YOU,## IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO JUST LET IT GO, BUT MOST# PEOPLE ARE IT'S A NEW FORM OF COMMUNICATION.# IT'S INTERPERSONAL COMMUNICATION.

FOR ME PERSONALLY, I CAN LET THE HATE,## IF I GET A HATING COMMENT, GO, BUT WHEN IT'S# YOUR OWN FAMILY MEMBER OR FRIENDS, A LOT OF TALK,## I'M SURE YOU SEE THIS TOO, FAMILY MEMBERS, I# DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU POSTED THAT OR GET## INTO HUGE SPATS BACK AND FORTH PUBLICLY.

PUBLICLY WITH WHOEVER IS FOLLOWING YOU,## THAT CAN BE SO, IT'S JUST DIFFICULT.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT FRAGILE THINGS.# HUMAN NATURE.

>>Yunji: HOW DO YOU HELP YOUR STUDENTS## NAVAGATED THIS?

I'M SURE THEY'RE ENGAGING PEOPLE# WHO DON'T HAVE INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS ONLINE.# >> DEAL WITH THAT MEDIA LITERACY PROGRAM.

TEACHING KIDS HOW TO BECOME SKEPTICAL.# HOW NOT TO BELIEVE WHAT WE'RE LOOK AT AS THAT# BUT NOW I NEED TO GO RESEARCH OR LOOK BEHIND.# SO UNDERSTANDING THAT PROCESS IS REALLY# IMPORTANT FOR KIDS, HARD FOR KIDS BECAUSE## THEY'RE IMMEDIATELY TRYING TO BELIEVE.

OR THEY'RE TRYING TO COMPARE.# AND I WANT TO BE LIKE THAT.

SO THEY'RE NOT# SEEING THE REALITY OF IT JUST SEEING AN IM CHALLENGE.

THE WORD BRANDING CAME UP.# I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA REALLY PUTS# KIDS IN A SITUATION WH TRYING TO BRAND THEMSELVES.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.# SOCIAL MEDIA IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE IF# YOU LOOK AT NOW, AGE GROUP OF TEN TO 13,## THAT'S REALLY A MARKET THAT INFLUENCERS ARE REALLY# TRYING TO A TACKLE MOST SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS## HAVE TO BE 13 AND OVER IN ORDER TO JOIN.

SO THESE SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCERS NOW## KNOW THAT THERE ARE KIDS YOUNGER THAN 13 OWNED# PLATFORMS BECAUSE ALL HAVE YOU DO LIE ABOUT YOUR## BIRTH DATE TO CREATE AN ACCOUNT.

TARGETING THAT SPECIFIC GROUP.# THAT'S HARDEST GROUP TO BECOME SKEPTICAL.

TELL RIGHT FROM WRONG, DETERMINE WHAT IS TRUTHFUL.# >>Yunji: GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS.

TROLLS BROUGHT UP.# WHAT IS IT BEING ANONYMOUS.

>> IN A ONLINE SPACE NOT EVEN## BEING ANONYMOUS THAT ALLOWS# PEOPLE TO SAY IN THAT SPACE## THEY WOULD NEVER SAY TO YOUR FACE?

>> WELL, I MEAN THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A## PART OF COMPUTER MEDIA COMMUNICATION, BEING# ANONYMOUS AND MAKE THESE TYPE OF STATEMENTS.# THINK WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, THE FACT THAT YOU AS WERE# YOU SAYING, MASS PERSONAL THAT YOU HAVE AUDIENCE## THAT IS SOCIAL NETWORK, PEOPLE THAT YOU WORK WITH,# FRIENDS, FAMILY, BUT ALSO, AUDIENCE THAT YOU DON'T## REALLY SEE AND TO WHAT EXTENT DO YOU CARE ABOUT# THEIR THOUGHTS AND THEIR OPINIONS, I THINK MEDIA## LITERACY CLASS WOULD BE REALLY GOOD FOR PEOPLE TO# UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF UNDERSTANDING YOU DEAL## WITH INVISIBLE AUDIENCE LIKE MASS MEDIA SENSE.

DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THE AUDIENCE.# >> YOU WOULD HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE# CONTENT YOU POST IS GOING TO GO WIDER CIRCLES,## COULD BE COMMENTED ON BY BAD PEOPLE# AND PEOPLE WITH BAD INTENTION.# >>Yunji: YOU ADVISE PEOPLE.

BUSINESS OWNERS SPECIFICALLY## COULD PROBABLY LEARN FROM LESSONS ON# THAT, HOW TO DEAL WITH WH EN RESTAURANT GETS BAD REVIEW OR SOMEBODY WRITES# SOMETHING MEAN ABOUT FLORIST OR WHAT H WHAT ARE YOU TELLING, WHAT HAVE YOU TOLD# BUSINESSES HOW TO DEAL WITH AND HOW CAN WE## SORT OF APPLY THAT WIDER SOCIAL MEDIA USES?

>> I HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY ATTACKED BY PEOPLE## THAT I DIDN'T KNOW BECAUSE OF MY# FORMER JOB AT YELP OR OTHER THINGS.# AND THE WAY I LIKE TO LOOK AT IT,# IS THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT ME.# SOMETIMES IT IS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I'VE# DONE, BUT REALLY, IT'S SO MUCH MORE ABOUT## THE WAY THAT PERSON FEELS ABOUT THEMSELVES.

AND IT REALLY HELPED ME TO A LOT MORE EMPATHY FOR PEOPLE WHO CREATE# NEGATIVITY ONLINE SO MUCH MORE ABOUT THE WAY## THAT SOMEONE IS NEGATIVELY ABOUT THEMSELVES AND# SOMETIMES THE ONLY WAY FOR THEM TO FEEL POWER IN## THE WORLD IS TO TRY TO PULL OTHER PEOPLE DOWN.

MY HUSBAND LIKES TO CALL IT CRABS IN A BUCKET.# IT'S NEVER EASY.

NEVER EASY TO GET THOSE COMMENTS BACK## ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE A BUSINESS.

>> SO MANY PEOPLE,## THAT'S THEIR LIVELIHOOD, THEIR BABY.

THINGS THEY PUT SO MUCH TIME AND ENER CAN REALLY HARD BUTS PART OF PLAYING THE GAME# AND PART OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS RISK## INVOLVED IN BUSINESS AND THAT IS ALSO THE RISK# AND VULNERABILITY REQUIRED IN YOUR EMOTIONS.# AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO LEARN TO NOT TAKE IT# SO PERSONALLY AND REALLY USE IT AS A WAY TO LEARN## AND TO FEEL EMPATHY AND TO IMPROVE OUR BUSINESSES# AND I REALLY LIKE TO LOOK AT SOCIAL MEDIA AS A WAY## TO LEARN PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR ACTION# AND WHAT WE INTAKE AND ALSO WHAT WE OUTPUT.# >>Yunji: I WANT TO GET YOUR ANSWER TO A QUESTION.

WE HAVE FROM OUR AUDIENCE TONIGHT WE## KNOW WE ARE ENTERING ELECTION YEAR.

A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT ONLINE CAN BE POLITICAL.# THIS CALLER WANTS TO KNOW, WHAT ABOUT# THE INFLUENCE ON DEMOCRACY, SOCIAL MEDIA## PLATFORMS THREAT OR BOON?

TELL US WHAT YOU THINK# ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE POLITICAL SPACE.# >> THAT'S A LOADED QUESTION AND, YOU KNOW, IF# YOU'RE EXPRESSING, LET'S SAY POLITICAL VIEW,## AND ALGORITHM IS SORT OF LEARNING WHAT IT IS# THAT YOU'RE PERHAPS MOST INCLINED TO WANT TO## SEE, IT WILL FEED YOU MORE OF THAT.

NOW, WHEN IT'S BECOME VERY DIVISIVE## ENVIRONMENT IN THE POLITICAL ESPECIALLY# NATIONAL SPACE, AND I THINK IT IS PRETTY## CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE'RE IN ELECTION YEAR.

WE HAVE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION COMING UP.# THERE IS QUESTIONS ABOUT ONE VERSUS THE# OTHER AND WHETHER DEMOCRACY CAN SURVIVE.# WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN YOUR FEED IS YOU WILL PROBABLY# GET FED STUFF THAT WILL MAY BE LEANING ONE SIDE OR## MAYBE IT WILL REINFORCE WHAT YOU ALREADY BELIEVE.

AND WHAT YOU END UP DOING IS AT## LEAST FOR MY CASE, I SEE IT.

>> I WOULD PROBABLY AGREE WITH IT,## BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SWAY ME BECAUSE# I KNOW ALREADY HOW I'M GOING VOTE.# SO I THINK IT HAS INTERESTING WAY OF I GUESS# PRESENTING ITSELF, THE WAYS PROBLEMATIC## IS WHEN SOMEBODY MIGHT BE ON THE FENCE.

MAYBE SOMEBODY IS NEEDING TO BE CONVINCED,## MAYBE THEY NEED TO SEE THAT RIGHT VIDEO THAT KIND# OF SWITCHES THEM INTO A MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN MY SITUATION.

BUT I CAN SEE WHERE THE FEED COULD START## TO SWAY YOU ONE WAY OR THE ANOTHER.

>> THAT'S THE CHALLENGE.# ALGORITHM DOESN'T GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE.

ONLY FEEDS YOU WHAT YOU'RE WATCHING.# SO IT ONLY CARRIES YOU DEEPER DOWN THAT HOLE.

ECHO CHAMBER.# GIVING FIVE VIDEOS, THREE OF THEM ARE# EXACTLY SAME CONTENT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.# HERE'S TWO OTHERS DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT.

FUNDAMENTALLY ALSO HAS TO CHANGE IN SOCIAL## MEDIA OR KEEP BECOME MORE DIVISIVE.

>> YOU HAVE MORE FUNDAMENTALISTS## WHO HAVE THIS OPINION.

WERE YOU SAYING KEEP GETTING## FED MORE AND MORE AND MORE.

YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT.# THEN THAT'S WHAT RESEARCH IS SHOWING.

>>Yunji: YOU ARE A Y THAT TWO HOURS AND 14 MINUTES ON AVERAGE A DAY, A# LOT OF THAT CONTENT IS NEWS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.# ARE YOU GETTING MOST OF YOUR NEWS ON# SOCIAL MEDIA AND WHAT ABOUT YOUR PEERS?# WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING, DO YOU FEEL LIKE# IT HAS AN INFLUENCE ON YOU DEFINITELY.# YOUNGER GENERATION PARENTS GETTING ALL# OF THEIR INFORMATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA.# >> SPENDING SO MUCH TIME ON IT.

TIKTOK, INSTAGRAM, REELS.# SPORTS, POLITICAL.

COUNTY NEWS.# WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE.

ALWAYS UP THERE.# IT'S WHATEVER NEWS YOU WANT TO SEE.

KIND OF LIKE WE'VE B SEEN KAMAKA'S VIDEO ON MY STUFF.

KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON CULTURALLY.# STUFF LIKE THAT.

THEN ALSO SEEN THE POLITICAL UPDATES AND IF THERE## WAS SOMETHING HAPPENING IN WAIANAE OR WHATEVER.

CONSTANT FRESH, NEWS.# I THINK IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH# A LOT OF THE TIME TO BE HONEST.# >> THING IS DO WE SPEND TIME, ENOUGH TIME,# DO VALIDATE AU WE SEE?

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE# SEE SOMETHING ONLINE AND QUICKLY MAKE## JUDGMENT WITHOUT GOING DOWN THE NEXT LAYER.

TO SEE IS THERE A SOME KIND OF AGENDA THAT## THE POSTER HAS, POSTING THAT INFORMATION?

WHAT IS# THE AGENDA?

WE DON'T SPEND THAT MUCH TIME I THINK.# WE JUST LOOK AT IT, AND LIKE# BRITT SAID, I REMEMBER A TIME WE## USED TO CALL IT SUBLIMINAL SEDUCTION.

SEE IT OFTEN ENOUGH AND LONG ENOUGH,## GOING TO START BELIEVING IT.

TIME ABOUT TAKING BREAKS.# MAYBE THAT'S THE TIME, PUT THE PHONE AWAY.

CHANGE.# GO OFF LINE.

>> GO DARK FOR A WHILE.# GET FRESH SITE.

A LOT OF TIMES WHAT I DO.# I GET MY PHONE, OKAY, TURN THEM ON.

>> READY TO TOSS IT AGAINST THE WALL $2,000.

PUT THEM AWAY.# I GO BACK.

>> FRESH MIND.# MAKES YOU THINK.

GO ON WALKS.# >> I DON'T CARRY MY PHONE.

GO T IT'S OFF BECAUSE DURING THAT TIME, I# CAN THINK CLEARLY ANY KIND OF INFL TALK WITH THE GYM PEOPLE AND GET THEIR POINT OF# VIEW AND GET THEIR ASPECT, CERTAIN THINGS OF WE## TALK ABOUT THINGS WE SAW ONLINE AND DISCUSS# IT, NONDIGITAL PLATFORM.

FIND I GET MORE## TRUTHS IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAN I DO ONLINE.

>>Yunji: NATASHA, DO YOU AND YOUR FRIEND TAKE THE## BREAKS WE'RE HEARING ABOUT TONIGHT?

>> UH.# >>Yunji: NO SHAME.

GENUINE CURIOSITY.# I HAPPEN TO LIVE IN CONDO.

WHEN I'M IN THE ENVELOPE,## NINE TIMES OUT OF THE TEN, ON THEIR PHONE.# YOU FEEL LIKE THE WEIRDO TRYING# TO ENGAGE OR GO TO A RESTAURANT.# HOW MUCH US GO THROUGH A MEAL WITHOUT# CHECKING OUR PHONE AT LEAST ONCE.# IN YOUR AGE GROUP SPECIFICALLY GIVEN ENGAGEMENT# NUMBERS, DO YOU FIND YOURSELF ABLE TO TA OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO MISS OUT?

>> AT LUNCH WITH MY FRIENDS, WE TALK ABOUT LIKE## THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN SCHOOL.

SPORTS, CURRENT EVENTS.# THEN ONCE LIKE THE CONVERSATION# STARTS GETTING DRY, CHECK OUR PH IT'S ALSO ANOTHER CONVERSATION STARTED.

IF WE SEE THIS REALLY FUNNY VIDEO ON TIKTOK,## I SHOW IT TO MY FRIENDS.

LOOK HOW FUNNY THIS IS.# IF I CONTINUE.

>> IF YOU'RE A GROWN ADULTS,## BACK TO WHAT YOU WHY SAYING, GROWN ADULT# ALREADY ESTABLISHE ABSENT OF SOCIAL MEDIA.

AND I HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF## WHO I AM MUCH MORE APT TO GO WHO IS THIS PERSON# JOB OF ADOLESCENTS, SENSE OF SELF BY 18, 19.

NOT AS LIKELY TO QUESTION WHERE THE## CONTENT COMING FROM.

WHAT THE AGENDA IS.# WHAT ARE THEY WANTING FROM ME?

I THINK THAT IS# WHERE IT'S BEEN IS WE'RE TRYING TO DO TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

TRYING TO HELP TEENS ESTABLISH A HEALTHY## SENSE OF WHO THEY ARE IN THE MEANTIME, BEING# BOMBARDED WITH OTHER THINGS YOU SHOULD BE BUT## ACTUALLY NO, NOT SHOULD LOOK LIKE THIS BUT YOU# DON'T, DISRUPTING NATURAL DEVELOPMENTAL FLOW.# ADDING TO THAT, THIS NEGATIVITY BIAS WE ALL HAVE.

CAVEMAN DAYS MUCH BETTER TO BE SUPERSCARED OF## SOMETHING AND ASSUME THE WORST# IN CASE IT LOOK A POISON PLANT.# THAN ASSUME IT'S PROBABLY FINE.

SO WE ALL HAVE THIS INNATE## THING WITHIN US THAT IS GOING TO LATCH ONTO# NEGATIVITY AND SORT OF IGNORE THE POSITIVITY ANOTHER THING WITH THE HUMAN CONDITION.

YOUNG TEEN DEVELOPING SENSE OF SELF ON HYPERDRIVE.# THAT IS WHERE IT'S BEEN A LITTLE# CHAOTIC FOR THESE TEENAGERS.# THOSE OF US WHO ARE GENERATION X MAY BE LITTLE BIT# YOUNGER TOO, WE ALREADY DEVELOPED OUR SENSE SELF.# ASK QUESTIONS OF THE TEENS MORE# THAN LIKELY THAN NOT ASKING WHAT## THE MOTIVATING FACTOR IS FOR THE POSTER.

WHAT IS PERSON LIKE POSTING THIS THEN MEAN## THING?

HEARING IT AND TAKING IT TO HEART.

>> HAVE A 13#YEAR#OLD AND 17#YEAR#OLD BOTH GIRLS.# I'M SO HAPPY WHEN THERE WAS NO# SOCIAL MEDIA WHEN I WAS THEIR AGE.# >> HARDEST PERIOD OF YOUR LIFE, ALL# OF THAT JUST FOLLOWS YOU HOME NOW.# AND I ALSO ALWAYS TELL MY GIRLS, SOCIAL# MEDIA IS THERE TO SELL YOU THINGS.# THAT'S THE THING YOU NEED TO REMEMBER.

AND IT'S SO INTERESTING BECAUSE NOW,## ALL THE GIRLS HAVE STANLEY CUPS.

WANT LULU LEMON.# ALL THE GIRLS ARE ASKING FOR DIOR LASH.

CVS HAS COVER GIRL FOR NINE DOLLARS.# THAT'S THE THING I'M ALWAYS# TRYING TO EMPHASIZE TO MY GIRLS.# THIS IS TO SELL YOU THINGS.

>> STANLEY REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE.# BECAUSE THAT COMPANY BLEW UP BECAUSE# OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND INFLUENCER.# STANLEY CUP BEEN OUT FOR OVER FIVE YEARS.# IT WAS ONLY PAST 2 YEARS# WHERE IT BECAME SUPERPOPULAR.# AND THERE WAS A MARKETER USED TO# WORK AT CROCKS MADE THAT POPULAR.# MOVED OVER TO STANLEY.

AND THEN BIG FOCUS WAS INFLUENCE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.# BETWEEN TEN AND 13.

SO NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT IT,## CARRY A YETI OR HYDRO FLASK OLDER GENERATION.

>> YOUNGER KIDS CARRY STANLEY.# SOCIAL MEDIA, KIDS WANT TO BE ACCEPTED.# IF I DON'T KNOW WHO I AM, I CAN BUY THIS## PRODUCT AND I'M SOMEBODY.

BECOME MORE ACCEPTED.# >>Yunji: EASILY INFLUENCED.

QUESTION THAT CAME IN FOR YOU.

AS## AN INFLUENCER, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON CLOUT# CHASING?

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT CLOUT CHASING?# >> I STILL DIGESTING AT THE WHOLE CONVERSATION.

>> SO MUCH SO TO SAY.# ALSO VOLUNTEER CHRIS TO ANSWER ALL OF QUESTIONS.

DO SOMETHING FOR POPULARITY.# TO BE LIKE, SHOW HIGHER SOCIAL STATUS.

>> AND WHAT ONE THING THAT I THINK REALLY## HELPED ME WAS LEAVING IT OFF.

I JOINED PEACE CORPS IN 2016,## DISCONNECTED EVERYTHING.

ABLE TO RECONNECT WITH PEOPLE.# HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITHOUT PHONES AND INTERNET# AND THINK THAT BRO SOMETHING THAT I CRAVE.

BACK THEN POSTING SOCIAL MEDIA FOR VANITY.# SINCE I'VE BEEN BACK, SINCE 2019, JUST BUSINESS.

>> SO ME, I DO EVERYTHING WITH MORE INTENTIONALLY.# WE HEAR A LOT, DON'T USE SOCIAL MEDIA.

SOCIAL MEDIA IS BAD.# BUT I THINK IF WE JUST USE IT MORE INTENTIONALLY,# WE CAN CURATE EVERYTHING.

MY WHOLE FEED IS POSITIVE.# >> ISN'T CLOUT CHASERS.

MOTIVATIONAL QUOTES, ANIME, SPORTS,## ALL THE THINGS THAT I'M INTO NOW.

>> SO I THINK, YES,## PEOPLE PROBABLY DO THINGS FOR CLOUT.

AND USUALLY WITH PEOPLE DO SOMETHING NICE, OR I TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, THEY'RE JUST GOING FOR CLOUT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR## INTENTION IS AND WHY YOU'RE DOING IT.

>> ALL THAT MATTERS FOR ME.# >>Yunji: SOME COMMENTS, LOVE# FOR THE GROUP TO RESPOND.# CALLER SAYS SOCIAL MEDIA SHOWS HOW INSECURE# PEOPLE ARE NOT SATISFIED WHO THEY ARE.# >> ALWAYS WANT TO BE SOMETHING ELSE.

THEN OTHER PERSON SAYS, FACT#CHECKING SKILLS NEED## TO BE PROLIFERATED SO FEW OF US UNDERSTAND HOW# IMPORTANT IT IS TO LEARN TO RESEARCH EFFECTIVELY.# SOCIAL MEDIA DOES NOT EQUAL NEWS.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS OF WHAT## THE VIEWERS HAVE TO SAY?

>> FOR NOT KNOWING HOW FEELING## INSECURE ON WHO A PERSON IS, IT'S SO EASY# FOR SOCIAL MEDIA TO MAKE YOU FEEL THAT WAY.# AGAIN, I SAID EARLIER, PEOPLE# ONLY WILL POST GOOD THINGS.# ONLY POST WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE THEY# LOOK GOOD FOR LIFE IS GOING WELL.# NEVER SHOW STRUGGLE BEHIND HAPPENED BEFORE THAT.

AND SO IT'S SO EASY TO BELIEVE WHY ISN'T MY LIFE THAT WAY?

AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE FACT# CHECKING PART, I THINK IT'S LIKE WRITING ESSAY.# REALLY HAVE TO CHECK YOUR# RESOURCES IF YOU TRUST IT.# >> THAT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE NOW.

WHEN PEOPLE SEE SOMETHING,## AND IF FITS THEIR BIAS, OR WHAT THEY# CURRENTLY BELIEVE, BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE.# BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, I'M RIGHT.

THIS MEANS I'M RIGHT.# BECAUSE THIS MEANS THIS PERSON POSTED THIS.

AND IT FITS WITH MY IDEAS.

I'M RIGHT.

WON'T ACCEPT ANY OTHER IDEOLOGIES ASIDE FROM THAT.# >>Yunji: ECHO CHAMBER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU'RE A MOM OF 3.# GUESSING KIDS DON'T HAVE PHONES YET.

>> WON'T BE GETTING THEM PHONES.# >>Yunji: SOMEONE WORKS IN THIS SPACE IS MAKE# A CHOICE NOT TO GIFT THAT SPACE TO THEIR KIDS?# >> I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT'S BEEN FOR ME.

I FEEL LIKE I USE IT FOR GOOD.# >> AT LEAST NOW.

I GIVE MYSELF GRACE## FOR IT JUST NOT KNOWING NOT BEING AWARE.

SO IMPORTANT THAT'S VIEW WATCHING THIS AND HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

MORE WE TALK ABOUT IT, MORE WE CAN## DO MORE GOOD ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

MEDIA LITERACY HAS COME UP A LOT.# I THINK THAT IS SO IMPORTANT NOT JUST# FOR YOUNG PEOPLE FOR OLD PEOPLE TOO.# ALL GENERATIONS.

CHRIS WAS SAYING.# WE AS I SAID EARLIER, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT# I WAS DOING BECAUSE WEREN'T TAUGHT ANYTHING# THOU DEAL WITH SOCIAL MEDIA.# SO MEDIA LITERACY FOR MY CHILDREN# SOMETHING TO BE NUMBER ONE.# NUMBER 2 LONGER YOU CAN KEEP# OUT OF THEIR HANDS, THE BETTER.# BRITT, RIGHT, A LOT OF FIGHTS AROUND# 12, 13 YEARS OLD EVERYBODY ELSE## HAD THEM.

HELD OFF AS LONG AS WE COULD.

IN MY HOME, PUT LOCKDOWN SOFTWARE ON IT.# SO MAYBE TIP FOR PARENTS NOT TO BE IT'S ONES# YANKING IT OUT OF THEIR HANDS, SOFTWARE ON IT,## HIT A BUTTON AND CLICK, IT'S OFF.

THAT SOFTWARE BECOMES THE ENEMY.# WE DID THE SAME THING.

HIT AND MISS AROUND 15, 17 YEARS OLD.# CERTAINLY, UP TO THAT AGE, HOW TO ON EARTH# DO THESE KIDS KNOW WHO THEY ARE ENOUGH TO## KNOW HOW TO FILTER OUT ALL THE CONTENT?

WE HELD# OFF TOO, POUNDED PRETTY HARD BY MY KIDS PHYSICAL SAFETY.

EVEN MY HUSBAND WILL AS A STOP AT A LIGHT,## WHATEVER, SOMETIMES WHILE HE'S DRIVING, SHOULD I# NOT BE SAYING?

YOU KNOW, I TELL MY KIDS, TELL US.# PLEASE HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE.

YELL AT US.# IF WE PICK UP OUR PHONES WHILE WE'RE DRIVING,# HAVE TO HAVE DON'T WANT THEM USING PHONE AND DRIVING.

GET INTO AN ACCIDENT.# RIGHT TO THINK WAY AHEAD.

I DON'T# REALLY KNOW HOW TO SOLVE ALL OF THAT.# I'M HOPING TECHNOLOGY.

SOLUTION EASY.# GO BACK TO NOKIA BRICK PHONES.

THOUGHT ABOUT IT.# FLIP PHONES.

>> BEING A PARENT.# BEST KIND OF EDUCATION IS LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

HOW OFTEN DO YOU GO A FAMILY GATHERING.# TELLING OUR KIDS, NOT TO GO ONLINE.

SOCIAL MEDIA.# DON'T USE PHONE.

>> GUESS WHAT ADULTING,## ON THE PHONE CHECKING TEXTING.

THING THAT REALLY PEAVES GO TO A GATHERING.

EVERYBODY IS ON THEIR## PHONE OF THE GUYS KNOW, CERTAIN GROUPS THAT# I'M PROLIFIC ON, POSTING LIKE THAT, I GO DARK,## THEY KNOW BECAUSE I'M AT A SOCIAL FUNCTION AND# CHRIS DON'T, I MIGHT PUTS INTRODUCTORY PICTURE## I'M HERE WITH THE GANG AND THAT'S IT.

I'M DEAD.# ENJOYING THE COMPANY WITH YOU GUYS IN THE PRESENT.

LATER ON, I'LL POST WHAT WE DID AT PARTY TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.

SOMETIMES I GO LIVE BECAUSE WHEN WHAT## THEY SEE IS WHAT THEY GET.

NOT SCRIPTED.# DROP F BOMBS.

MAKE MISTAKES.# IT'S UNEDITED.

TRUE THING.# WHAT PEOPLE KIND OF LIKE.

FOLLOW FIRST TIMER, JUST THINK, I SEE ONLINE.

THAT IS MOST COMPLIMENTARY COMMENT CAN MAKE.# >> WHAT YOU SEE WHAT YOU GET.

>> TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT## THE PHENOMENA HE'S DESCRIBING WHERE WE'RE AT# A SOCIAL GATHERING BUT ALL ON OUR DEVICES.# >> SO ARE THESE DEVICES SO ADDICTIVE.

>> I MEAN, THESE APPS AND DESIGNED LIVE## IN ATTENTION ECONOMY.

REALITY.# WHERE ATTENTION IS VERY LIMITED RESOURCE.

AND SO THESE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.

AND YOU CAN GO BACK## TO THE CHANGE TO THE CHRONOLOGICAL FEED FROM# REVERSE CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER TO RHYTHM KEEP PEOPLE ON PLATFORMS LONGER AND I THINK# EVEN WITHIN APPS, BELIEVE YOU'RE ENCOURAGED## TO USE CONTENT EDITING TOOLS IN THE APP# IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO GET ENGAGEMENT## IN THE APP POSTER YOU MADE WITHIN THE APP.

ALL ABOUT KEEPING EYEBALLS WITHIN THE APP.# NOTIFICATION ON YOUR PHONE.

THINGS THAT ARE COMING,## TRYING TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION AWAY.

>>Yunji: MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY## EXTRA SECOND PEOPLE ON, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

>> ENDLESS SCROLLING CHANGE KEPT PEOPLE ON.# NEVER STOPS.

KEEP GOING.# NOTIFICATION IS A BIG ONE.

DID ACTIVITY WITH OUR KIDS TWO YEARS AGO.# NATASHA IS ONE OF THE STUDENTS WE HAD ON# STAGE AT THE TIME KIND OF SHARING ABOUT## SOCIAL MEDIA USAGES WITHIN OR STUDENTS.

>> STUDENT TO STUDENT SO TO SPEAK.# BUT THEN WE ACTUALLY DID SORT OF A PSA# BREAK IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PRESENTATION.# HAD KIDS PULL OUT PERSONAL PHONES, LOOK# AT SCREEN TIME IF THEY HAD IPHONES.# AND HOW MANY TIMES YOU GET# NOTIFIED?

THEN LOOK AT THAT NUMBER.# BUT TO ME, MORE IMPORTANT NUMBER IS PICK#UPS WHICH# IS LITERALLY MEASURING FROM YOUR POCKET TO HERE.# SO WHEN I GET THE NOTIFICATION, THAT'S ONE THING.

NOTIFICATION DRIVE ME TO LOOK AT THE PHONE?

AT## THAT POINT, ANALOGY TRYING TO MAKE TO THE# KIDS WHAT IS CONTROLLING YOU?

ARE YOU IN## CONTROL OF THIS OR IS THE DEVICE AND SOCIAL# MEDIA PUSHING YOU IN CONTROL OF THAT POINT?# >>Yunji: I WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION TO BRITT.

TOUGH ONE.# I'M AWARE OF A YOUNG INDIVIDUAL# DIAGNOSED WITH DEPRESSION.# HOW MIGHT CONTINUOUS SCROLLING# ON DIGITAL DEVICES IMPACT ST ATE YOUNG PERSON?

TALK ABOUT THE CHANGE.

WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR US ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEONE YOUNG MIGHT BE SUFFERING FROM DEPRESSION?

>> RIGHT.# >> BEEN ENOUGH STUDY BY NOW WE CAN CORRELATE.

SEEMS TO CORRELATE RIGHT THERE WAS A# BIG INCREASE IN DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY.# CAN'T IGNORE THAT IS GOING ON.

SOME CASES, DEPRESSION BUSTERS LIKE## CONNECTION WITH OTHER PEOPLE, BEING ACTIVE,# BEING OUT IN THE SUN, GETTING GOOD SLEEP.# THESE FOUR THINGS WE CALL THEM LIKE DEPRESSION# ARMOR AND SO IT MAY BE OF COURSE THAT THIS CHILD## IS PREDETERMINED TO HAVE DEPRESSION BECAUSE# OF SOME PHYSIOLOGICAL FACTORS OR COULD BE## THAT SOME KIDS ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA SO# MUCH, IT BLOCKS OUT THIS OTHER TIME.# SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING A TON OF SUN, NOT GETTING# A TON OF EXERCISE OR SLEEP OR CONNECTION.# SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING THAT PROTECTIVE# ARMOR FROM ALL THE THINGS IN LIFE THAT## CAUSE US TO FEEL LOW MOOD AND DEPRESSED MOOD.

SO INCREASED, TAKE ALL OF THAT AND PUT IT IN## ONE BIG STEW, INCREASE SOCIAL MEDIA, CORRELATES# EXACTLY WITH HUGE RISE IN DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY.# PLUS ADD TO THAT, THAT YOU'RE REMOVING# THESE PROTECTIVE FACTORS FOR KIDS.# SO I ADVISE A LOT OF PARENTS NOW, LIKE# IF IT'S JUST TOO BIG OF A FIGHT TO GET## THAT PHONE AWAY FROM YOUR KIDS# KEEP THEM BUSY ENROLL IN SPORTS.# BABYSITTING, CLUBS AND ACTIVITIES# FILLING THEIR TIME ARE OTHER THINGS.# THAT'S WHERE AT LEAST I HAVE THE MOST CONCERN.

NOT WITH SOCIAL MEDIA IS ALWAYS DOING TO YOU AS## MUCH AS WHAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING# BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS ON IT.# >> >> I THINK REALLY GREAT POINT.# IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE IN 2024, AND YOU# TE CHNOLOGY COULD OCCUPY YOUR TIME, AND YOU THINK# ABOUT WHAT IS THAT TIME THAT IT NOW OCCUPIES,## WHAT HAS IT TAKEN AWAY FROM YOUR LIFE IF YOU# WERE LET'S SAY BACK IN THE 90s?

OR BACK IN THE## 80s?

WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE BEEN DOING HAD YOU NOT# HAD THE SOCIAL MEDIA?

SO YOU MIGHT BE HIKING.# YOU MIGHT BE DOING SOME SPORTS.

YOU MIGHT BE IN A BAND.# YOU MIGHT BE DOING SOMETHING THAT# IS MORE PHYSICAL KIND OF WORLD.# AND YOU TALK ABOUT ESPECIALLY THE# KIDS TRYING TO FIND THEMSELVES.# I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PARENTS AND DON'T# WANT TO PROFESS AS ANY EXPERT IN THIS AREA,## BUT CAN YOU CARVE OUT MORE TIME FOR THEM TO# BE ABLE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHO THEY ARE?## CAN YOU GO ON A TRIP?

CAN YOU TRAVEL?

CAN YOU# HIKE?

GO TO THE BEACH, DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE.# AND GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO INTERACT# MORE IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD AS OPPOSED## TO LET THE SOCIAL MEDIA DOMINATE THE# ELECTRONIC WORLD OR THE DIGITAL WORLD.# >>Yunji: WHAT YOU'RE SAYING REALLY SORT OF STRIKES# ME AS BUILDING ON SOMETHING THAT EMMY HAD SAID.# ABOUT KIDS AND THINGS THAT THEY WANT AND HOW# MUCH MORE GROWN UP AND MAYBE I'M JUST OLD.# BUT THESE VIDEOS THAT I SEE WHERE THEY SHOW,# I GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL IN THE 90s.# SHOW 13#YEAR#OLD IN THE 90s.

SHOW A 13#YEAR#OLD TODAY AND## THEY'RE LIKE A DIFFERENT SPECIES.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, WHAT ARE YOUR## THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT?

JUST HOW MUCH FASTER# WE SEEM TO, KIDS SEEM TO BE GROWING UP.# MAKES ME SOUND ANCIENT WHEN I SAY THAT.

HOME VIDEOS, WE MADE THEM AND## INSTAGRAM VIDEOS NOW, DIFFERENT.

>> EXPECTATION IS SO DIFFERENT NOW.# THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING# I THINK ABOUT ALL THE TIME## WITH MY CHILDREN.

>> I HAVE FOUR.# ESPECIALLY MY GIRLS BECAUSE# THEY ARE IMPRESSIONABL >> SEE THINGS ONLINE.

>> HARD BECAUSE## COMPARED TO SOMETHING REALLY UNATTAINABLE.

>> OUR AGE EXPECTED TO BE YOUNG FOREVER ONLINE.# WE'RE DOING OUR BEST.

ALL WEAR MAKE UP NOW.# MORE PLASTIC SURGERY THAN EVER NOW, SO IMPORTANT# AS PARENTS AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES FOR US## TO I THINK JUST BE MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT HOW# WE'RE SPENDING OUR TIME TOGETHER AS A FAMILY,## SPENDING TIME TALKING TO EACH OTHER.

>> HARD BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE DON'T DATE NOW## BECAUSE THEY'D RATHER STAY HOME AND WATCH NETFLIX.

JUST EASIER.# I THINK WE ARE ALL SUFFERING# AS A SOCIETY FROM LONELINESS.# THERE USED TO BE A TIME WHEN YOU COULD# BE THE CUTEST GIRL IN THE TOWN OR YOU## COULD BE LIKE THE FASTEST RUNNER IN YOUR# HOMETOWN OF LIKE 2,000 OR 50,000 PEOPLE.# BUT NOW, NO CHANCE ARE YOU THE BEST LOOKING OR# FASTEST OR BEST ARTIST OF THE WORLD AND SO YOU## COMPARING YOURSELF TO EVERYBODY.

AND MICROCOSM IS SUPERBIG NOW.# YOU SORT OF GIVE UP.

NEVER BE AS GOOD AS THAT PERSON OR THAT PERSON.# ONCE UPON A TIME, DO THE BEST# BACK BENDS IN DES MOINES, IDAHO.# >>Lauren: INSTAGRAM QUESTION.

FOR STUDENTS, HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE CANCEL CULTURE## ONLINE?

FOR VIEWERS AREN'T FAMILIAR, JUST EXPLAIN# WHAT CANCEL CULTURE IS AND HOW YOU NAVIGATE THAT.# >> CANCEL CULTURE IS BASICALLY TONS OF HATE.

IF SOMETHING IS NOT GOING WELL SOMETHING## NOT POPULAR.

IT'S DONE.# THAT IS THAT.

IT'S REALLY SAD BECAUSE IT## COULD BE SOMETHING SILLY AS A STANLEY CUP.

OR WHOLE TEND OR WAY RAPID.

ONE WEEK THIS IS TRENDING.

>> CANCELED BECAUSE THIS IS GOING OFF.# AND YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP.

IT'S A LOT.# A LOT TO DEAL WITH.

AND YEAH, IT'S HARD.# >> I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY.

AT LEAST FROM WHAT I WANT TO SEE,## JUST REAL PEOPLE.

AND AUTHENTICITY WHO## YOU ACTUALLY ARE VERSUS YOU PROTENDING TO GET# READY WITH ME AN I THINK AT THAT DIFFERENCE.

GROWING UP, I DIDN'T HAVE A PHONE## UNTIL HIGH SCHOOL.

DIDN'T HAVE SOCIAL# MEDIA.

LEARNED HOW TO USE THAT A LOT OF PARENTS ARE STILL LEARNING.

I THINK IS A CURVE BECAUSE THEY'RE LEARNING LIKE## US AND SO MAYBE THAT IS WHY WE'RE MORE ADDICTED.

WHY WE'RE SCORING MORE VERSUS YOUNG GENERATIONS## WHO GREW UP ON IT.

NATURAL TO THEM.# THEY'RE ADDICTED.

>> THEIR TYPICAL CONNECTION TO THE WORLD.# >> GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT# HAPPENS WHEN THIS GENERATION GROWS UP## BECAUSE WE WERE ALL IMMIGRANTS INTO THIS WORLD.

WE SAW TECHNOLOGY COME IN AND DECIDED IT.# GENERATIONS KIDS, GROUP WITH TECHNOLOGY# IN THEIR HANDS LIVE THEIR LIFE.# WE DIDN'T HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA# PRESENCE WHEN WE WERE YOUNG.# REALLY GLAD ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

THESE KIDS DO.# SO WHEN THEY GET TO BE ADULTS, START HAVING# CHILDREN, GOING TO BE REALLY INTERESTING SEE POTENTIAL REVERB A LITTLE BIT.

I'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF REVERB AT## SCHOOLS.

STARTED I#PAD PROGRAM 13 YEARS AGO.

>> ELEMENTARY KIDS WERE GIVEN SMART PHONES.# LOGIC CHEAPER THAN I#PAD TOUCH.

COMMUNICATION FEATURES.# A LOT OF LOGIC BEHIND MY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL# HAVING THIS PHONE.

NOW SEEING REVERSE.# NO PHONES OR FLIP PHONES BACK IN# ELEMENTARY SCHOOL UP UNTIL MIDDLE SCHOOL.# KEEPING IT OUT SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT DESIRE# TO GO CREATE AN ACCOUNT BEFORE ACTUALLY OF AGE## AND MATURE ENOUGH TO HAND IT.

>>Yunji: I SEE YOU NODDING.# EVERYBODY IS SAYING.

>> I KNOW.# I THINK WE TALK SO MUCH ABOUT# LEARNING AND LEARNING AND LEARNING.# >> I FEEL LIKE I'M BLESSED BECAUSE I GREW UP# WITH HALF WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND HALF WITHO 30'S.

IN MIDDLE ZONE.# I JUST FEEL LIKE THE BEST TIMES OF MY LIFE WHEN I# THINK ABOUT WHEN I >> DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SOCIAL MEDIA.

AND I FEEL LIKE NOW AS ADULT,## A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'M DOING IS UNLEARNING.

>> HOW TO BE HUMAN IN THE SENSE OF THIS SOCIETY.# BEING HUMAN USING SOCIAL MEDIA# AN DOING ALL OF THESE THINGS.# TO ME WHAT MADE ME HAPPY AS A CHILD.

WASN'T SOCIAL MEDIA.# I THINK WE GOT TO KIND OF HE REMEMBER THAT.

THINK ABOUT HAPPIEST MOMENT IN YOUR LIFE.# LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA, ISN'T PART OF THAT.

>>Yunji: RIGHT.# DID IT HAPPEN IF IT WASN'T DOCUMENTED?

>> YES.

THAT'S THE THING.# >> COULD DOCUMENT IT AFTER.

FOR ME, HAPPIEST MOMENTS OF MY## TIME WHEN I FORGET ABOUT MY PHONE.

SO BE PRESENT.# >> WE HAVE TO TEACH KIDS THESE DAYS.

>> FOR US, GREW UP HIGH SCHOOL, COLL ME TOO.

THAT'S WHY I SAY ABOUT## TRY TO UNLEARN TO USE SOCIAL MEDIA.

BE ON YOUR PHONE AND BE PRESENT.# SURF.

>>Yunji: CONTENT CREATORS THE## ONE WHO TELLING ME TO PUT MY PHONE DO THAT IS I'VE GROWN MY DISCIPLINE TO KNOW,# WHAT CHRIS IS SAYING.

POST, OR BE PRESENT,## RECORD IT, POST LATER, WHAT I DID.

INSTEAD OF THIS IS I'M DOING.# >> NEED TO KNOW WHEN IT# TURN IT ON AND TURN IT OFF.# >> TAKES A WHILE TO GET TO THAT POINT.

DI D NOT TAKE OUR PHONES OUT.

GOING OUT.# HAVE TAKE A PICTURE.

>> RECORD YOU WATCHING TOWARDS ME.# GREAT PART OF IT WAS THAT MEANS# WE REALLY APPRECIATE EACH OTHER.# WE WERE SO INTENTIONAL ABOUT# JUST SPEAKING TO EACH OTHER.# ONE THING THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALL BRINGING# UP FOR ME, THESIS WAS ON PARENT FUBBI.# IGNORING CHILDREN THEY'RE ON THEIR# PHONES, I THINK ABOUT THAT A LOT.

NOT## JUST ABOUT WHAT KIDS ARE EXPERIENCING ALSO# IN OUR INTERPERSONNEL COMMUNICATION SAYING## SOMETHING OUR CHILDREN WHEN WE'RE ON OUR PHONES.

NEED OUR PHONES FOR WORK AND FOR OTHER THINGS.# SOCIAL MEDIA ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT SO JUST I# WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT'S JUST ANOTHER## POINT BECAUSE THAT RESEARCH SHOWS DEPRESSION,# ALL THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.# LOWER GRADES, BODY, JUST IT DOES SO MANY THINGS# TO THEIR SENSE OF SELF WHEN WE ARE DOING THIS.# >> USE IT AS A BABYSITTER TOOL TO SOME DEGREE.

WE HAVE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE ADDICTION## THAT KIDS HAVE BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE REALLY YOUNG,# CANNOT REALLY TALK, PUT A PHONE IN FRONT OF THEM.# WATCH THIS.

TOUCH THIS.# AMAZING TO WATCH KIDS EVEN AT THAT Y DEVICE WITHOUT EVEN BEING TOLD HOW DO IT.

GENERATION TV SET, BLACK AND WHITE TV SET.# MOMMY AND DADDY HAD A USED CAR LOT.

GRANDPA AND GRANDMA TOOK CARE OF ME,## PUT ME IN FRONT OF TV.

TIME TO EAT, TURN OFF THE TV.# BED, 8:00 TURN ON THE TV.

TV SATURDAY MORNING MAYBE,## ABOUT NOONTIME, BEFORE NOON, OUT THERE PLAYING.

CERTAIN TIMES, YOU CAN WATCH TV.# MY SURROGATE BABYSITTER.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.# MALIKA WAS SAYING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TOO IS# TAKE EVERYTHING AWAY FROM OUR TECHNOLOGY FROM## EVEN ANYTHING WE HAVE, WE JUST WANT TO FEEL# LIKE WE MATTER TO THE PEOPLE WE CARE ABOUT.# THAT'S IT.

WANT TO FEEL RELEVANT,## IMPORTANT, AND I MATTER TO YOU, UH #HUH, MESSAGING THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOU.

DO THAT TO THE KIDS, YOU DO THAT TO EACH OTHER.# PUT IT DOWN, YOU'RE MESSAGING YOU DO MATTER.

SO MUCH CONTROL.# TELLING THE WORLD YOU'RE IMPORTANT OR NOT.

WHEN YOU FEEL IMPORTANT, YOU ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE## VERY HIGH RATES OF DEPRESSION OR ANXIETY.

>> BUT I ALSO THINK ON THE FLIPSIDE,## I THINK THERE IS SO MUCH GOOD THAT HAS# COME OUT OF SOCIAL MEDIA, SO MANY WAYS.# I LEFT MY CORPORATE JOB IN 2020.

REALLY ISOLATED LIKE A LOT OF US.# AND SOCIAL MEDIA WAS REALLY GREAT WAY# FOR ME TO STILL FEEL CONNECTED TO PEOPLE.# I FOUND SOME OF MY BEST# FRIENDS THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.# IT'S JUST I FEEL LIKE A NICE FILTERING DEVICE.

WE LIKE THE I CAN TELL.

YOU POSTED ABOUT IT.# AND I ALSO WHEN I WAS COMMUNITY MANAGER,# BEST PART TOGETHER OFF LINE AND PEOPLE GOT TO MEET EACH# OTHER, LOVED FOOD, LOVED TO DISCOVER THINGS.# GOT MARRIED, BECAME FRIENDS WE HAVE BEEN# FOCUSING LARGELY SOME OF THE NEGATIVES.# >> TELL US ABOUT SORT OF THE SOCIAL# ASPECTS AND HOW IT HELPS YOU STRENGTHEN## RELATIONSHIPS DO YOU THINK?

>> WELL, LIKE I SAID BEFORE,## I DO PLAN A LOT OF THINGS WITH MY FRIENDS.

WITHOUT SOCIAL MEDIA AS GOOD PLANNING BECAUSE SAY I'M# LOOK THROUGH MY INSTAGRAM FEED.# AWESOME NEW SPOT THAT OPENED A ACROSS TOWN.

CHECK THIS OUT SOUNDS FUN.# SOCIAL MEDIA IS GREAT WAY TO DISCOVER NEW THINGS.

AND LIKE JUST GET YOURSELF OUT THERE.# IF I SEE SOMEONE DOING SUPERFUN# ON TIKTOK, WE SHOULD TRY THIS.# >>Yunji: WHAT ABOUT YOU?

YOU CREATE CONTENT.

IN THE SPORTS WORLD.# SO THERE'S A POSITIVE ASPECT THERE.

PEOPLE ARE CONNECTING OVER ATHLETICS.# >> >> DEFINITELY.# JUST LETTING THE ATHLETES BE# SE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE LIKE SEEN AS THE# PRO TEAM.

DON'T HAVE PROFESSIONAL TEAMS.# SO PEOPLE COME TO WATCH U.H.

SPORTS.

>> AND JUST CREATING CONTENT THAT PEOPLE## GET TO SEE THEIR FACES OUTSIDE OF UNIFORMS.# OFF THE FIELD, OFF THE POOL DECK, WHATEVER THAT## LOOKS LIKE, JUST SHOW THEIR PERSONALITIES, NIL,# PEOPLE, POSSESSIONS, ALL GOOD, SEE THEM POSING.# SEEING THEM, WHO THEY ARE UNDER, ALL OF THAT.

WHAT IS THE COLOR MATH TO YOU?

TAKES YOU BACK## TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

HAVE TO THINK.# THAT KIND OF STUFF IS FULFILLING I REPRESENT THEM.

COOL.# >>Yunji: DO YOU FEEL LIKE# THERE'S MORE GOOD OR BAD?# >> I FEEL MORE GOOD.

SO ACTUALLY RUN A COUPLE SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUN FOR MY SCHOOL LIKE OUR MEDIA PROGRAMS PLATFORM.

AND OFTENTIMES WHENEVER I POST THINGS ABOUT## CONTENT THAT OUR PROGRAM IS CREATING,# THERE'S SO MUCH LOVE COMING FROM OUR## COMMUNITY AND FORMER ALUMNI SAYING, OH,# MY GOSH I REMEMBER WHEN I WILL TO DO THIS.# YOU GUYS ARE DOING SO GREAT.# KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.# AND IT'S JUST REALLY HELP US EVERYBODY# FEEL CONNECT THROUGH THAT WAY.

AND FEEL ALL THAT LOVE COMING TO THEM.

>>Yunji: BURT I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR THOUGHT HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF LIVING WITHOUT# SOCIAL MEDIA AND NOW WITH IT.# DO YOU THINK LIFE IS BETTER OR WORSE FOR IT?

>> FROM WHAT I'M TONIGHT BOILS DOWN TO BALANCE.

HAVE YOU ACHIEVED A SENSE OF BALANCE## IN YOUR LIFE TO BE WELL, BE MENTALLY HEALTHY,# WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA AND IF IT## CONSUMES YOU BECAUSE YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON IT.

THERE ARE DEFINITELY CASES LIKE IN SAY KOREA## WHERE YOU'RE REALLY INTO eSPORTS.# SPENDING ALL OF YOUR TIME ON eSPORTS.# THERE ARE CASES WHERE SOME OF THOSE KIDS# ARE JUST LOSING TOUCH WITH REALITY AND## THAT'S NOT SOCIAL MEDIA.

THAT'S JUST eSPORTS.# SO WHEN YOU'RE CONSUMING YOURSELF IN SOCIAL# MEDIA THE ELECTRONIC ENVIRONMENT, DIGITAL WORLD,# YOU REALLY GOT STARTED TO ASK YOURSELF ARE## YOU REALLY IN BALANCE, IN BALANCE WITH SOME OF# THINGS THAT WE MAY HAVE DONE IN OUR, LET'S SAY,## IN THE 80S, 90s, DIDN'T HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA.

AND GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU ENJOY DURING YOUR## CHILDHOOD, THAT IS WHAT YOU NEED TO HAVE MORE# OF IN YOUR LIFE AND WE'RE NOT GIVING UP ON THIS## DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE IT'S HERE TO STAY.

NOT GOING TO THE PAST.# IT'S THE QUESTION OF, AS HUMANS, CAN WE# FIND THAT BALANCE WHERE WE CAN USE IT AS## A TOOL AND BE STRONG ENOUGH TO CUT YOURSELF# OFF OF IT AND DO OTHER THINGS THAT GIVE YOU A## SENSE OF CONNECTION WITH YOUR ENVIRONMENT.

SO YOU CANNOT JUST GO ONE DIRECTION AND## BECOME SORT OF DIGITAL AVATAR.

YOU GOT TO STAY CONNECTED.# >> IN THE REAL WORLD.

>> SHERRY FROM VOLCANO, GO AHEAD.# >> I SAID I AGREE.

YEAH.# GOT TO BE INTENTIONAL.

I WAS GOING TO SAY TOO,## WE STARTED OUT WITH DIGITAL CITIZENSHIP PROGRAM.

AN AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS WHEN WE# HAVE KIDS, WE END UP TAKING A LOT OF## PICTURES OF OUR KIDS POST THEM ONLINE.

WE END UP NOW, KIDS END UP HAVING OVER## A THOUSAND PICTURES OF THEM ONLINE PRIOR# TO THEM EVER STARTING THEIR FIRST SOCIAL## MEDIA ACCOUNT WHICH IS REALLY INTERESTING.

REALLY LIKE TO LOOK AT IT NOW, DIGITAL WELLNESS.# LOOK AT THE HEALTH OF YOUR DIGITAL USAGE.

TRYING TO HAVE KIDS ANALYZE THAT AND BE## REFLECTIVE ON THAT PROCESS.

>> GET TO THAT POINT WHERE## PUT IT DOWN, TURN IT OFF, LOOK AWAY.

>> I WONDER IF YOU BUILD ON IDEA OF NOT NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO GIVE CONSENT.

THAT KIDS ARE GETTING THEIR PHOTOGRAPH## TAKEN AND PARENTS UPLOAD IT.

SOMETHING WE MIGHT THINK IS CUTE,## BUT COULD BE CHILD'S MOST EMBARRASSING MOMENT.

ADULTS LAUGHING, MAYBE LATER, ON >> YEAH.

FOR SURE.# THINK I SOMETHIN ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

ESPECIALLY PEOPLE## THAT WE DON'T KNOW AND WE LA THERE ARE SOME OF HER CLASSMATES, SCHOOL# IS NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE PICTURES OF THEM## BECAUSE OF THESE TYPES OF REASONS.

PARENTS DO NOT WANT THEIR CHILDREN## ON ANY TYPE OF MEDIA.

SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM.# UNTIL THEY ARE READY, CONSENT IS CERTAINLY GOING# TO BE IMPORTANT AS WHERE EVEN DAY#TO#DAY SOCIAL MEDIA USE, GOING TO# A PARTY, TO WHAT EXTENT DO YOU GET CONSENT FROM## THE PEOPLE YOU TAKE PICTURES.

I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK## ABOUT THESE THINGS FOR SURE.

>>Yunji: AS A MOM, HOW DO YOU FIGURE THAT OUT?# >> IN THE PAST, I DID HAVE ONE# PERSON COME TO ME ONCE AND TELL## ME I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO POST MY DAUGHTER.

BIRTHDAY PARTY, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.# ONCE THAT PERSON SAID IT, I'VE# ASKED EVERY SINGLE PERSON SINGLES.# I'M DIFFERENT.

>> I HAVE THOUSANDS OF FOLLOWERS.# SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

MORTIFIED ME THAT I DI BUT AGAIN, WE ARE IMMIGRANTS.

>> GOT TO GIVE YOURSELF GRACE AND NOW## YOU'VE LEARNED AND I HAVE NEVER HAD SOMEONE FROM# THAT POINT ON TELL ME, N ON THERE BECAUSE NOW, WE ARE GETTING MORE MEDIA# LITERATE AND PARENTS WILL SAY, JUST SO YOU KNOW,## AT THIS BIRTHDAY PARTY, PLEASE DON'T TAKE A PHOTO# OF MY CHILD AND POST IT, NEED TO BE MORE VOCAL.# >> SECURITY PRIVACY ASPECT TOO.

NOW, EVERY PICTURE YOU## TAKE WITH YOUR PHONE METADATA.

DON'T TURN OFF LOCATION, SERVICE CAN PULL## INFORMATION OUT OF THAT PICTURE YOU POST ONLINE.

PART OF MEDIA LITERACY, IMMIGRANTS NEED TO LEARN## TO PROTECT THEIR FAMILIES AS WE TRY# TO EDUCATE DIGITAL NATIVES AT SCHOOL.# >>Yunji: COMMENT HERE, A TEACHER ONCE ASKED# STUDENTS IN MY CLASS EVER HAD GONE KITE FLYING.# NEVER EXPERIENCED BECAUSE THEY HAVE# LIVED ALL THEIR LIVES ON THEIR PHONES.# I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE REASON BUT ONE THING# THAT STRIKES ME ABOUT THAT IS IF THEY WERE## TO GO KITE FLYING, THEY WOULD BE SURE TO WANT TO# DOCUMENT IT BECAUSE IF NO PICTURE, DIDN'T HAPPEN.# I FORGET WHAT THE ACTUAL PHRASE WAS.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOU ON THAT.# THERE IS THIS, TALKED ABOUT HAVING# LUNCH TODAY AND NOT TAKING A PHOTO.# IMPULSE IS TO TAKE THAT PHOTOGRAPH.

IMPULSE IS TO DOCUMENT EVERYTHING.# WHY DO YOU THINK THAT?

>> PARENTS, I MEAN,## WE HAVE TONS OF VIDEOTAPES.

GIANT THING.# HUMAN NATURE TO DOCUMENT IT.

TERRIBLE MEMORY, STORYTELLER.# DON'T GET DOWN ON MYSELF TO DO THAT.

>> WONDERFUL TO DOCUMENT MEMORIES,## WANT MY CHILDREN TO HAVE MEMORIES.

I STRUGGLE WITH THE CONSENT THING,## HUSBAND AND I TALKED ABOUT WE'RE OKAY WITH IT NOW.

MIGHT CHANGE OUR MIND LATER.

I LOVE MY INSTAGRAM## JOURNAL FOR THEM AND DAUGHTER WILL COME UP TO ME# ALL THE TIME, CAN WE LOOK THROUGH MY HIGHLIGHTS?# WE LAUGH AT HER FUNNY AND EMBARRASSING# MOMENTS AND MY SON A LITTLE BIT WILL TELL## ME DON'T POST THAT AND I WON'T.

>> HAPPIEST MOMENTS IN CHILDHOOD## WITHOUT A DIGITAL DEVICE AROUND.

DO YOU FIND YOURSELF COMPELLED TO## DOCUMENT A LOT OF THINGS?

>> YEAH.# I THINK I REALIZED THAT LIFE IS NO T NECESSARILY BEING ON# SOCIAL MEDIA ALL THE TIME.# I THINK IF YOU CAN FIND A BALANCE, GOOD# MODERATION OF EVERYTHING, THEN BUT I DON'T HAVE TO BE INVOLVED.

I CAN POST BUT DON'T HAVE## TO LINGER ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

IT'S LIKE EVER DRINK A BOTTLE OF WINE EVERY DAY, ALCOHOLIC.

ONE GLASS, GOOD SLEEP.# ADDICTED.

TO LEARN TO FIND THAT BALANCE AND POST,## LOOK AT A FEW STORIES, THROW OUT A COUPLE LIKES.

GET OFF.# EVERYTHING IN MODERATION.

USE SOCIAL MEDIA INTENTIONALLY.# DON'T USE IT.

>> DEVIL.# IT'S NOT.

SO MANY BE >> REALLY FUNNY STUDENTS ASKED ME, WHEN# IS THE LAST TIME YOU FLEW A KITE?

DO YOU## KNOW HOW TO FLY ONE?

YEAH.

NOT HARD.

THROW IT UP.# LITTLE HARD.

I THINK THAT KIND OF SHOWS, SIMPLE THINGS.# WE USED TO BUILD OBSTACLE COURSES FOR FUN.

>> MOM TOOK VIDEOS.# NOT LIKE THAT ANY MORE.

SEE A VIDEO, TRY TO DO IT## BUT WHY COPY THEM OR SOMETHING.

LESS CREATIVITY SOMETIMES.# SOCIAL MEDIA BROUGHT MORE# CREATIVITY IN OTHER WAYS.# JUST AT THAT BALANCE.

I WORK ON SOCIAL MEDIA.# I'M CONSTANTLY LOOKING WHAT THE TREND IS, STYLES.

I FEEL LIKE IF I'M N WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?

IT'S MY JOB.

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO POST TOMORROW?# FINDING THAT BALANCE.

WHEN AM I GOING BE ON IT?

WHEN AM I GOING TO WORK?# WHEN IS PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA TIME OR GOT# BEACH AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH FRIENDS.# >>Yunji: I FIND FOR MYSELF KIND OF UNCONSCIOUS.

LOSE TOUCH.# YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TAKING INTENTIONAL BREAKS.

A LOT OF TIMES, IT'S REFLEX.# FIND THE PHONE.

FIVE MINUTES IN## THE GROCERY STORE, LOOK ON YOUR PHONE.

I LOVE THE IDEA IS LIFE IS ABOUT TEN MINUTES OUT.

>> GOING BACK TO## SOMETHING YOU STARTED FROM THE BEGINNING.

I KNOW THAT OF MYSELF, HIDE THE LIKE COUNT, I# DON'T EVEN WANT TO KNOW.

I DON'T WANT TO THINK## THAT PICTURE GOT 100 AND THAT ONLY GOT 50.

I DO NOT LOOK NICE?

I MEAN IT'S REALLY,## I FEEL LIKE I'M AWARE OF THESE THINGS.

>> STILL CAN'T HELP THAT.# >> LEARNED SOMETHING JUST NOW.

I DID NOT KNOW YOU COULD HIDE THE LIKE COUNT >> YES.

>> THANK YOU.# I'M GOING TO DO THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

VALIDATION.# AGAIN, IF WE STRIP EVERYTHING AWAY FROM# HUMANKIND THAT WE HAVE, AM I IMPORTAN IF YOU'RE USING SOCIAL MEDIA, VEHICLE TO FEEL VALIDATED BY STRANGERS,## YOU NEED TO FEEL IMPORTANT, MAYBE# ELSEWHERE YOU DO NOT FEEL IMPORTANT.# SOMETHING TO NOTICE AND GET SOME SUPPORT AROUND.

IF, HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOCIAL MEDIA AS## A WAY TO SHARE, LIKE KAMAKA WAS SAYING, MY VEHICLE# THROUGH WHICH I SHARE MY LIFE, BUT I DON'T NEED TO## VALIDATION TO FEEL OKAY ABOUT MYSELF.

THAT DOES FEEL LIKE A DIFFERENT## WAY OF UTILIZING SOCIAL MEDIA.

WHEN YOU GET HITS FROM PEOPLE AND YOU GET## COMMENTS, YOU MENTIONED HERE THAT THE COMMUNITY# RALLIES AROUND YOU, THEY'RE TELLING YOU WE## NOTICE YOU, WE SEE YOU, YOU'RE IMPORTANT IN THIS# VERY POSITIVE WAY, I FEEL SUPPORTED AND LOVED.# BUT IF YOU ARE SEEKING, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE# SEEKING VALIDATION, I NEED TO KNOW THAT I## AM VALUABLE AND THAT I AM WORTHY BY VIRTUE OF# HOW MANY LIKES I GET, DON'T WALK, RUN TO THE# NEAREST THERAPIST.

>> WHAT IS IT YOU## NEED SELF#ESTEEMWISE, LIKES TO# YOU ARE VALUABLE AS A HUMAN.# WHERE I GET WORRIED, YOUNG PEOPLE# HAVE NOT DEVELOPED A SENSE OF SELF,## WE TALK ABOUT SEEKING VALIDATION.

SOMETIMES MY KIDS DO GET A## BUNCH OF LIKES, HAVE A GREAT DAY.

IF THEY DON'T, HAVE A SUPERBAD DAY.# CONCERNED THAT THEY ARE SEEKING# EXTERNAL VALIDATION VERSUS## THEY'RE INTERNALLY WORTHY BECAUSE I'M ALIVE.

>>Yunji: WHAT PRESSURE DO LIKES AND FOLLOWERS## AND SOCIAL MEDIA NETWORK HAVE?

>> IMPACTS A LOT OF STUDENTS.# I HAVE FRIENDS, DO I LOOK GOOD# IN MY PICTURE, SHOULD I POST## IT?

IF YOU WANT TO POST IT, YOU SHOULD.

DON'T CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK OF YOU.# IF YOU THINK YOU LOOK GOOD, SHARE IT.

I KNOW PEOPLE AGAIN ALWAYS SAID FEEL## REALLY BAD WHEN THEY DON'T GET ENOUGH VIEWS# ON THEIR STORIES OR LIKES ON THEIR POSTS,## REALLY DOES AFFECT THEIR WHOLE MOOD.

FEEL REALLY BAD FOR THEM.# WISH THEY KNOW LIKES DOESN'T DEFINE YOU.

YOU ARE LIKE YOURSELF.# YOU'RE WORTHY OF CONFIDENCE.

>>Yunji: IT'S NOT JUST YOUNG PEOPLE.# IT'S ALL OF US.

I THINK EVERYONE FEELS THIS WAY.# AND I ALSO FEEL LIKE THAT IS WHY IT'S# SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE POSITIVE## RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT THROUGH# OUR SOCIAL MEDIA HAVING LUNCH WITH A FRIEND.# TIME WITH A FAMILY.

MEASUREMENT OF OUR LIFE IS NOT HOW## MANY FOLLOW US OR HOW MANY PEOPLE LIKED US.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE## GAVE TO OTHER PEOPLE IN OUR LIVES.

>>Yunji: QUESTION FOR YOU.

SENIOR CITIZEN.# CAN YOU ADDRESS THE SENIOR# CITIZENS NOT UP TO SPEED.# HELP WITH SOCIAL MEDIA.

NOT KNOWLEDGABLE ON THIS TOPIC,## HOW WOULD YOU ADVISE THEM TO NAVIGATE THIS WORLD?

>> FIRST, KUPUNA AND SENIORS,## SIT DOWN WITH GENERATION BELOW.

THAT'S THE THING WITH THE NEW GENERATION.# NEW GENERATION IS TASKED WITH# PROTECTING KUPUNA AND KEIKI.# THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE BOTH# RESOURCES AND I WOULD LIKE SAY MINDSET,## BUT MENTAL CAPACITY OF HANDLING BOTH SIDES.

>> AND EDUCATING KEIKI IS THE SAME WAY TO## EDUCATE THE SENIORS.

>> REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY,## YOUNG PERSONS TO HELP YOU TO NAVIGATE.

I'VE SEEN SOME PROGRAMS AT THE YMCA## GENERATIONS MAGAZINE.

GIRL HIGHLIGHTED.# I THINK HER NAME IS ESTHER.

DOES CLASSES ABOUT CYBERCRIME,## CYBERSECURITY, CYBER SAFETY FOR KUPUNA.

KUPUNA REACHING OUT TO THEM AND REACHING OUT TO THEIR GENERATION AND HELPING.

SAME THING WITH US GUYS.# PEOPLE, YOUNG PEOPLE, NEED TO EDUCATE THE KUPUNA.

NEED TO EDUCATE, NOT O OR GRANDPA, GRANDMA, UNCLE, AUNTY, ONLINE AND# GETTING, POSSIBLE SCAMMED, ROMANCE SCAM COMING OUT## OR SOME KIND OF INVESTMENT SCAM BECAUSE SOMEBODY# OR SOME FRIEND REACHED OUT TO THEM ON FACEBOOK.# YOU CAN MAKE MONEY, HOW I# GOT TO VEGAS, INVESTED IN IT.# NEED TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE KUPUNA AND# SAY, AUNTY, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING QUESTIONABLE.# MIGHT NOT BE RIGHT.

AND THEN AGAIN, TO THE KUPUNA,## ONE THING WITH THEM, FEEL SHAME OF ASKING# HELP, DON'T WANT TO REPORT IT BECAUSE FEEL SHAME.

THING IS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT'S NOT SHAMEFUL.# EVERYBODY A IS VICTIM.

EVEN SMARTEST AND BRIGHTEST.# HAD CASES WHERE, FIRST THING I TELL THEM, WHAT,# YOU?

I'M WE WORK KIND OF CASES AND YOU FELL FOR IT.

I FELL FOR A SCAM.# MADE A MISTAKE.

OH, NO.# MY PHONE IS ON SOMEBODY'S RADAR.

I PICKED UP THE PHONE.# I SAW AN AD.

>> LUCKILY I HAVE BOOKS FILLED## WITH EMAILS AND SO FORTH, PASSWORDS.

SCRAP THIS EMAIL.# START ANOTHER ONE.

BUT THAT'S ME.# THAT'S ME.

THING EDUCATING.# KUPUNA GETTING HELP FROM LOWER GENERATI CHRIS IS TALKING ABOUT.

SPEAK JUST REALLY BRIEFLY ABOUT THE## WORK THAT STATE DIGITAL EQUITY COORDINATORS DO.

AREA WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN NOT ON DIGITAL LITERACY AND TEACHING KUPUNA AND ALSO WANT# TO EMPHASIZE FROM A DIGITAL LITERACY STANDPOINT,## SAFE AND SECURE, WE ALSO WANT TO# HELP CREATE DIGITAL NAVIGATORS.# WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING ARE CADRE OF# THAT GENERATION, THAT PERHAPS CAN HELP## THE KUPUNA OR EVEN THE KEIKI CAN HELP KUPUNA,# SO INTERGENERATIONAL KIND OF SUPPORT NETWORK.# AS MUCH AS IN MY DAY JOB, I'M HELPING TO KIND OF# FOSTER THE USE OF THE DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY, BUT I## ALSO WILL ADVOCATE THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE IN THE# RIGHT WAY AND AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE DONE IN BALANCE## AND IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A SAFE AND SECURE WAY.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THESE PROGRAMS.# >>Yunji: 2 MINUTES LEFT.

MAKE SURE WE GET THIS COMMENT IN.# SAYING, THANK YOU FOR THIS DISCUSSION# WITH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PANEL.# WONDER WHAT THE LONGTERM USE OF SOCIAL# MEDIA PRESSURES WILL HAVE ON ALL WE'LL FIND OUT, WHAT DO YOU# THINK THAT EVENT OUTCOME WILL BE?# >> I THINK IT'S THE DOWNFALL OF OUR SOCIETY.

(LAUGHTER)# >> REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON EACH INDIVIDUAL.

I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, SOCIAL MEDIA,## FOR THE MOST PART, ISN'T REAL.

IT'S A HIGHLIGHT REEL.# REMEMBER THAT AND PEOPLE JUST SHOWING HIGHLIGHTS,# AND I TALK WITH OVER 100 GUESTS ON MY PODCAST.

THE THING THAT I REALIZE, NO MATTER HOW MANY# FOLLOWERS, LIKES THEY HAVE, WE ALL HAVE THE## SAME PROBLEM.

INSECURE.# FAIL.

MAKE MISTAKES.# MAKES US HUMAN WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.# KAKOU THING, BEST WAY TO WRAP IT ALL UP.

YEAH, I THINK I HAVE NO IDEA, BUT IF WE## ALL AGREE TO USE IT ALL INTENTIONALLY, SPREAD# POSITIVELY, I THINK I DON'T SEE IT GETTING WORSE.# >> NICE TO EACH OTHER.

>> BEING A KIND HUMAN, THAT IS COOL.# >> ALOHA.

>> KEEPING IT ALOHA.# SHAKA OUT WITH SOMEBODY THAT# LETS YOU CUT IN FRONT OF THEM.# THAT'S COOL.

DON'T CARE IF YOU GOT 100 LIKES.# >> KINDNESS IS COOL.

>>Yunji: 20 SECONDS LEFT.# >> THAT'S A LOT OF PRESSURE.

I AGREE.# JUST MORE ALOHA IN THE WORLD# NEEDED AND WE CAN BE ROLE MODELS.# ALL OF US.

NOT JUST THE INFLUENCERS.# >>Yunji: WE'LL LEAVE IT THERE.

>>YUNJI: THIS IS A COM AND COMPLEX ISSUE.

SOCIAL MEDIA IS A BIG PART OF# HOW MANY OF US COMMUNICATE, BUT, CLEARLY, WE N PROCEED WITH CAUTION AND PERHAPS TRY TO ENGAGE A LITTLE# MORE IN REAL LIFE.

MAHALO TO ALL OF OUR GUESTS# AND TO YOU AT HOME FOR BEING A PART OF TONIGHT#S TOWN HALL.# WE#LL BE BACK WITH ANOTHER KAKOU NEXT MONTH FOCUSING ON# ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

WHETHER WE REALIZE IT OR NOT,# AI IS HERE AND INTEGRATING IN MORE AND MORE ASPECTS OF OUR# LIVES.

SO WHAT DOES IT REALLY DO?

AND# SHOULD WE EMBRACE OR FEAR IT?

WE HOPE YOU JOIN U I#M YUNJI DE NIES.

UNTIL NEXT TIME, ALOHA.